I am not trying to blame them, I think both programs are awsome an use them alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
Has anyone killed a stick of ram at the speed they had it set in the bios?
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I am not trying to blame them, I think both programs are awsome an use them alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
Has anyone killed a stick of ram at the speed they had it set in the bios?
Well @ mike...
Then explain what causses the death? ONLY when cpuz+clockgen is opened you get a BSOD, when that occurs say goodbye to youre mem..
I dont want the say that the software is bad... but it ONLY occurs when both are open so explain what it could be else.
For the people that are to scared loosing there good mem. Just run youre dual channel sticks in slot 2 and 4. Because all the mem that died was in slot 1. The second stick that was in slot 3 didnt. So only slot 1 kills youre mem/spd
I also asume its the spd... though i hope that coz my bh5 was pretty good.
CPU-Z sort of does makes sense I gotta admit...it does access the SPD chip. Is there any other program that you'd normally run in Windows that does?
Although I don't think its a design flaw in CPU-Z. It has to access the chip to display the info that it does.
Yes... exactly gautam, Coz cpuz or anything else cant put to many volts through the mem, or something like that. Cpuz does enter the spd, and i think the only problem here.
GOD DAMN YOU ASUS!:slapass:
just killed two excelents rams, one from a mushkin 2-2-2 special, bh6, and another from kingston hyperx, bh5.
this dothan "playing" is becaming a kind of expensive :mad:
My bh-5 sticks are fine here . 3.4v 24/7 without any problems . I guess it is a problem regarding some batchs of Asus boards .....Quote:
Originally Posted by c0V3Ro
My story - for over 2 years now Ive been playing with the same board&cpu (lack of money :( ) and two diff sets of ram at diff voltages, always in dimm1&3, a set of mushkin bh5s and a set of ocz d43s, both sets are 256x2, and Ive had cpuz (diff versions) and clockgen opened at the same time at least 50 times without any problems (one thing though, I dont run cpuz while upping the fsb, before upping the fsb I close cpuz and after I hit apply in clockgen I reopen cpuz).
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i got something like 5 or 6 p4c800e
no problems with bh5,bh6 sticks even on +4v.
the board died but not the rams.
sorry to hear that from you i think is just bad luck.
it`s something like that dfi that killes fx and x2 too..
just bad luck.
Well royal... i see many people with dead ram in the asus+ct+dothan combo.
Mayb its just rev related :(
My Asus P5P800 i865PE is an BH5/TCCD/Hynix D5 killer. :D
One dimm from a Corsair kit 2×CMX256A-3500C2PT (v1.1) BH5 - R.I.P.
One dimm from a Corsair kit 2×CMX256A-3200C2PT (v4.1) TCCD - R.I.P.
One dimm Kingmax HardCore DDR500 Hinyx D5 IC's - R.I.P.
Blue slot No.#1 on my P5P800 is erasing the SPD of any module I put into it and P5P800 uses SPD information upon detecting the RAM. I've put the kits one by one in the blue slots in dual channel, for each kit the only broken dimm was the one which was in the blue slot no 1 at maximum 2.85V. I use CPU-Z v1.31 and Clockgen in the same time when it's happened, if you ask ...
Dimms now are ok, SPD edit with Thaiphoon - Universal EEPROM Burner. I will try black slots and post feedback soon.
my winbond killer board is a p4p800se. it killed a module of a pair of bh-6 before i've send it to get a vdrop and a vdim. it killed a module of a pair of bh-5 with the modder.
i'm wondering buying a gskill fx 1gb kit, does asus + ct-479 kills tccd also?
ps: sorry about my bad english.
BIGFOOT WAS RIGHT
SPD = erased, take 1 working bh5 stick and 1 that died with the cpu+clockgen. look with the thaiphoon on both spd ;) see the changes. Also the are no details on my "dead pc3500" bh5 stick, and on my 3200LL there IS
The other thing.. If software can detect an spd, the memory aint dead :D
great news.
Ok i exported the working XMS 3200LL spd into a file. Then i loaded the not working XMS 3500, then pushed update dump, and then he asks left-most Hex value and right-most Hex value. What do i have to fill in?
http://www.techzine.nl/f/g/4442phpqglUz4.JPG
hmmm all this talk makes me think it would be wise to control the vdimm externally, think i'll build an external vdimm board and disconnect the MOSFET
Please people... some one knows the 2 Hex value's?
waus-mod
why not ask the guys that did the programm? someone has to know it.
to be on the safe side, i dumped both spds of my beloved khx3200/512 bh5
sticks - you never know... will continue to dump any other modules i have
that i *need* :D like my mushkin bh5s and some bh6 and ch5-based rams ...
oh and johnny bravo... if it is really only the spd that gets erased or rewritten
and no real physical damage to chips is done, i think we now have all the
tools we need to have.
though an external powercircuit for the ram may still be a good idea given all
this volt-spiking. though what i am wondering about is whether asus used the
same circuitry on all of their p4 boards (p4c800, p4p800, p4gd1, p4gplx,...)
because from what i can see in this thread, at least the first three in the list
above have "killed" ram so far. whether that ram is truly dead or just the spd
is borked remains to be seen - it also needs to be verified whether thaiphoon
can fix the spds so as to fully restore the memory to work as it is supposed to.
also wondering. maybe lifting a mosfet and using the kyosen vdimm will do
the trick, but then we wouldn't have any real filtering in the vdimm-power
circuit. nothing to smooth the voltages that come from the psu. that may
need a little bit more circuitry (than i could think of). if you or anyone has
the knowledge to do something like that (hipro?) please go ahead
:toast:
Those guys are russian..... and i cant speak that :P
Man this is hard...
Yes, that is what I was saying, memory is not completely dead. For example, sticks that don't work on P4Gd1, do work on my old gigabyte KT266 board.
However, I don't really understand this SPD thing. If it gets erased then why is it not working if I set timings manually and then insert that module?
I will check that program and I do speak russian a bit :)
give it a try, the guy wrote the soft in english so I bet he speaks englishQuote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
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Can't you use a dumpfile from the downloadpage from http://cbid.amdclub.ru/Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
There's a file Corsair CMX256A-3500C2 (BH-5).thp
Someone should try to put the SPD of an old BH-5 module on a BH-UTT module. It may fix the incompatibility problem between the 465 and 475 intel chipsets and UTT memory. The IC's should be physically the same so the only problem could lie in secondary timings programmed in the SPD.
If I am right, you can also change secondary timings
Nice that you mentioned that because when i read about this program today(didn't know the program before) it was the first thing what slipped through my mind,but i'm first wanna know a little bit more about this program but can't find much info yet:(Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
Chhers for clearing that up sky, havent been keeping up to date on this thread. I had noticed dips in my readings during superPi/other benchmarks, the vdimm supply would drop up to 0.2 volts so I decided that an external supply circuit was needed. I'm currently waiting on the ok to see if I should remove the MOSFET or not when installing it. Will check back with my findings as soon as I get it up to speed.
were is it located... its not on the download page.Quote:
Originally Posted by audiojunk66
edit: i see them :D