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Originally Posted by Salvador
Anyway nice showing from Intel, I hope to see more benchs from them in coming months. I've personally only owned AMD procs but I want Intel to get their butt in gear and throw out some good stuff, all the better for us consumers in the end.
still no 3d results?
and k10 getting cancelled doesnt mean theres a problem, everybody was shocked when nv48 and nv50 were cancelled, but do nvidias chips suck?
they found an easier way to increase the performence than going for a completely new design, maybe thats just what happened to amd?
im a little confused about pressler, is it tejas reborn or something?
or just a tweaked prescott on 65nm? but then again thats what tejas was supposed to be as well wasnt it?
wasnt tejas supposed to hit 10giggle hertz?
wel then this isnt tejas i guess :D
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Originally Posted by saaya
also looking at the scaling of the cpus
D820 2.8ghz = zero refference point
D830 3.0ghz = 5.3 FPS improvement
D840 3.2ghz =4.7 FPS improvement
so for talking purposes if the INTEL scaled an avg of 5fps per 200 clock speed using given info above.
for a D840 to equal the FPS of the 4400+ (priced the same) you would have to run it at 25.6/5 * 200 = 4.24 ghz to equal the 4400 at stock speeds.
also the AMD systems jumped 7-8 FPS for a 200mhz increase but this is normal since AMD does more work per cycle.
Since 4400+s do clock to 2.8 - 3.0ghz Thus I doubt even a LN2 cooled D840 would keep up with a water cooled maybe even air cooled X2
But Intel does have Dothan for gaming its just nice to have both packages under one CPU
all Iam going to say in this thread since I think its off topic
Wow thats all rather interesting and off subject. Who let all the AMD lovers in? Wasn't this supposed to be about a CPU that is forthcoming and is probably going to be a very big weapon of choice in the overclocking war considering it does close to 5ghz on Water which means that it should be able to do well over 6.5ghz on LN2. Not to mention has more features that AMD is still dreaming about.
Till now I thinks, Intel's LGA775 cpu are not good at 3Dmark...
But.....if the cpu clk reaches about 6.5G or more (dualcore), or 7G(single)
The result may change.
But...why do so many people preffers 3Dmark benches ? Do we plays 3D game everyday ?
Can a AMD FX60 run 4 prime95 while exploring the Internet, listening to the music, chat on MSN/Skype with ur friend?
AMD/Intel both got some good chips, but I do preffer AMD with SLI for gaming,
P4 for daily using and XS hight CLK ocing , Dothan for benching !
Then, what's going on in the near future ?
Intel has 65nm single core, will surely get over 8.5Ghz or more under LN2.
65nm dualcore can easily reach 7Ghz or more aslo with XS cooling.
Yonah will coming to the desktop in LGA775 with Crossfire / DDR2 support.
So, Intel will got both high clks and high efficiency.
okay, take a look back at AMD.
clk < Intel
efficiency < Intel
dualcore = Intel < Intel XE
SLI = Crossfire
DDR < DDR2
Socket M2 / 939 < LGA775
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plus all... Isn't AMD is in real trouble in 2006/2007 ?
Doesn't AMD needs some good new design and better product lines ?
of coruse, everything is possible, let's wait and see what's going on.
Wish AMD can still have the ability to fight with Intel, that means we can get a lot more cheaper and faster CPU ^_^
I wouldn't say so first is M2 with DDR2 then 65nm (probably mid-Q3) and then a whole lot of goodies in 2007. http://www.amdcompare.com/techoutlook/ But the important thing is if AMD want remain on top in benching they really need to get the Cold Bug sorted out. If there was no cold bug i'm thinking we would be seeing 4.1+ghz benchable.
I think that from a financials point of view, AMD is currently doing the best it has ever been. The number of mainstream companies (including one of the largest system integrator types, DELL) that have accepted AMD chips lately has been through the roof. As for who spanks who in the next gen battle, I guess we will have to see when all of this stuff is actually released, but I dont think that I would say that AMD needs better producs and is in trouble. They seem to be doing pretty well, and without testing M2 etc, I think it would be kind of hard to make the official call.Quote:
plus all... Isn't AMD is in real trouble in 2006/2007 ? Doesn't AMD needs some good new design and better product lines ?
This is a real impressive overclock but overclocking has got exactly jack and s*** to do with what AMD and Intel actually release. People have being getting over 4Ghz with a P4 on air for a while now yet Intel has still yet to release a 4Ghz chip, same thing happened with AMD and thier AXP's. Many got them to over 2.5Ghz on air but AMD never released a AXP that fast...
So I don't see how anyone can come off saying that AMD will be in trouble in 2006 cuz of a .65 P4 getting great OC's, BFD. If Intel was where they were supposed to be according to thier old roadmaps by now, at about 5-6Ghz on stock air cooling, then yea that'd be something for AMD to be worried about.
Yonah is a joke too from a performance standpoint (power consumption/heat output is indeed awesome though), clock for clock its right up there with a A64 which is great but its top clockspeed is only going to be 2.2Ghz IIRC and it'll cost around $600 or so too not to mention you'll be needing a new mobo cuz Intel changed the socket so you'll have to probably wait for months on end to get a decent OC'ing mobo for it... By then Turion will have been out for a few months (unless AMD screws up the launch of course) and Merom/Conroe won't be far behind, anyone who buys a Yonah to OC will be kicking themselves unless they're rich and can afford to blow $700 (gotta include the cost of the mobo) like its nothing.
For a stock laptop system Yonah will be great, if AMD can get the power lower than 50W TDP on the Turion though I don't think it'll matter much once AMD gets em' out in volume though.
IMO we won't be seeing anything really interesting from AMD or Intel til' late 2006 when Merom/Conroe comes out for Intel and AMD starts producing volume .65 chips.
VictorWang
Any updates ?
Hehehehe, nice avatar Cooper
And nice clocks VictorWang :toast: