When you guys say the OC tool? do you mean the one in the drivers? the overdrive tab?
I can't go any higher using it, lol stops at 700/800, tried 05 wih ati-tool got a weird screen.
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When you guys say the OC tool? do you mean the one in the drivers? the overdrive tab?
I can't go any higher using it, lol stops at 700/800, tried 05 wih ati-tool got a weird screen.
OC tool we mean the one that was on driverhaven, the so called ATI relased version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
Using the same settings at least memory in ATITool compared to that of OC tool is not recommened, speed I mean until you test it. Results between the 2 programs are totally different with the memory, and you can get much higher scores in 05 with ATITool with lower memory clocks.
This is my best result currently...
http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/vectrex/9k.jpg
1.175; 1.900; 1.1900
when i set the vCore over ~1.20V 3Dmark 05 freeze after 2-3 seconds :confused: (but @ the same freq. works fine @1.175...)
I hope ya mean 1.9v for mem ;)
Opsss :DQuote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
Yes, 1.900V :p:
P.S. you are a flash for reply! :eek:
Hicks look what is difference btw clocking over overclocker and ati tool, surely setting mem to 650 on both would make even bigger difference.
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/2...clocker8gn.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/6582/atitool6ym.jpg
that damn overclocker cant even set Mhz more precisely :slapass:
For a second there I thought that was 05 :D
Does Wizard have a tool that saves voltages now as well or what?
Profiling voltages will only be in beta10 and i don't no when it will be released...but i hope soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmad
Well god knows, why but this ATI-Tool is crap for me, it re-boots my system, and just basically borks my PC.
Guess iam stuck until Rivatuner 15.8 is out.
Is it doing it right when you boot to it or when you set speeds? If its speeds what are you setting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
Well i set clocks at 700/850, and 3dmark 05 just gave me a wierd ass screen.
Another time, i was just using it, pressing settings or somet, and it re-booted my PC.
TBH ive never liked ATI-tool, ill just wait for 15.8.
Well, I am sure you are doing something wrong. ATI Tool (if you were to read earliar) keeps timings very tight when overclocking. Also, you wouldn't have much luck if didn't change the voltages as well.
Using ATITool with my Powercolor X1800XT 512Mb, if I leave the memory alone (as I'm aware of the whole OC tool changes timings ATITool doesnt thing) and set the core frequency and voltage to my max stable speeds found using OCtool, which will run 3d05 and 03 fine, all I get is a blank screen as soon as I hit the 'Run 3D Mark' button.
Atomic are you using the stock cooler?
Whats are safe voltages to use on the stock cooler then? Ive read that the XT clocks very well, without using extra volts.
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Originally Posted by Hicks
Well first off, using 850 on the memoy thats why its hard locking. ATITool does not mess with memory settings unlike the OC tool. I'd try for 650 starting then start upping it.
I could hit 820 with my memory on OC tool, but getting more then 650 stable has been an intresting challenge to me, yet I'm gettting much higher bench results with ATITool along with better preformance.
Edit: Opps sorry just saw you had a XT :) well try upping it from 750 then hehe.
Ive just done 01 twice 03 and 05, at 690/800 in the ati-overdrive settings, and it was, no articfacts or anything.
750 is stock memory, ill try 700/800 in ati-tool and see what it does. if it borks, i know it's crap, cause it works fine in over-drive.
I can't seem to find overclocks on the stock cooler with the XT, hardy anyone has one, i thought they do 1700, quite easily, i was expecting about 700/850.
I think the max for air I have seen is 720ish/800ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
Well after I get off of work tonight I shall see what my HIS x1800XT shall do...It will deliever while I am at work today.
*Does Happy Dance*
I can't wait...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
CCC and the ati oc tool BOTH relax mem timings to get higher mem, so hitting 800 mem in CCC or oc tool is easier than ati -tool, however if you can hit the same speed in ati tool it will be faster clock for clock, or thats what everyones getting at. not been at uni with my x1800xt enough to really play with it, with oc tool it rocks along at 700/800 easily, did that first boot before anything, not tried at stock yet even. had some black screen issues getting about 700 on the core though, temps seem a little higher, per clock than on my x1800xl with a zally cooler on it, the xt still has stock cooler on it. will ramp up fan speed, maybe redo stuff with as5 on core. assuming memory is similar under the sink to the x1800xl sink then there is a thick thermal pad that just has to be much worse than being open to the air like with the zalman.
I just ran ATI-tool at 690/800 and only got 9728, basically the same as settings clocks in CCC.
I tryed 700/825, and the screen stayed black, i then gave it 0.1extra Vcore and the screen went orange and wierd, guess those are my max clocks then? dam.
Dunno really how high i can go with the volts, it was reading 83C in Ati-tool.
Vcore? Hope ya mean Vmem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
But running 83C is pretty damn hot, thought the limit was right around 88C or so. I'd say heat is holding you back big time currently.
Hicks,you disabled ATISMart and ATI Hotkey Poller services? If you havnt the increased voltages wont stick when the card enters 3d mode!
No, how do i do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicpineapple
What can i do about the temps? thought there meant to run hot these cards>
go start>run and run 'services.msc' you'll see the 2 services I mentioned above, right click them, select 'properties', set them to 'disable' and reboot. Although before you do that could you change the voltage on the card to anythign other than stick, run a 3d app, say 3d mark, drop back into desktop, (no need to let it finish 3d mark, just get to anything 3d) and hit the 'read volts' button in ATITool and tell me if its re-set the core volts back to stock. SIOUX and I have tested this and think thats what happens, but if you could try it and get back to me that'd be great, more people testing cant hurt! Oh, and set the fan to 100% speed, yeh I know its noisy but I think the stock cooler is about the best aircooler out there for it atm!
These would be found in the services. Theres 2 ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hicks
Start Menu->Run->type in: msconfig->under services tab you'll see them just uncheck the boxes and reboot.
Another way is to
Right click: My computer->Manage->Services and Applications->Serivces In here you right click go to my properties and disable it. Then reboot, can't remember if theres a stop command where it stops the service right away without a reboot or not.
Well on stock cooler ya they will run hot, but OC'ed well thats a different story. Cooling has a huge effect on OC's a great deal of the time. They can run at stock on those temps but might not OC that well. My old X800Pro (16pipe modded) did run fine @ 510/560 and 530/570 on cool days sitting near 80C under full load stock cooler. Yet when the new owner shoved it under water cooling it was hitting upwards of 580/570+ (memory he didn't test yet) and still had room with stock volts. I could never hit that speed with my stock cooling as it would reach 83C and lock up on me.