Bigtoe's first look at eXpert from DFI

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11-11-2005, 05:12 AM
end0

Does anyone know if this 'Pre-Programmed BIOS IC' will work on the eXpert motherboard ? http://pccasegear.com/prod2797.htm
11-11-2005, 05:31 AM
Tony

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Originally Posted by mrlobber

Amen to that, let it be the greatest DDR board to come ever :worship:

I have a feeling you may be talking of 3fsb max....ask yourself is it worth an upgrade for that...?

As per someone looking to go NF4 from NF2 etc then yes i will say get this, but for someone with an SLI DR looking for a speed increase im not so sure its worth it.
11-11-2005, 05:32 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by end0

Does anyone know if this 'Pre-Programmed BIOS IC' will work on the eXpert motherboard ? http://pccasegear.com/prod2797.htm

you need one programmed for ther eXpert m8, the boards are far from simlilar.
11-11-2005, 05:44 AM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

I have a feeling you may be talking of 3fsb max....ask yourself is it worth an upgrade for that...?

Of course. By no means more. But the last juice from DDR means that last juice ;)

As for my personal feelings, since I've never used TCCD at all, with BH-5 one SLI-D got 2 ram slots dead on me while messing around with higher Vdimm (as per all the instructions ;) ), the other one clearly suffered from the vtt problems but overall they were great motherboards for me, therefore I salute every motherboard which would be able to improve on them even marginally.
11-11-2005, 05:50 AM
TheMeatFrog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

I have a feeling you may be talking of 3fsb max....ask yourself is it worth an upgrade for that...?

As per someone looking to go NF4 from NF2 etc then yes i will say get this, but for someone with an SLI DR looking for a speed increase im not so sure its worth it.

Would you say it's worth it to go from Ultra-D ( not modded like yours ;) ) to expert because of the better VTT?
11-11-2005, 06:10 AM
el rolio

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlobber

Amen to that, let it be the greatest DDR board to come ever :worship:

hahaha awesome line. "and it secured its place in history; the people said let it be the greatest ddr1 board ever" hahaha so great.
11-11-2005, 06:17 AM
shine121

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Originally Posted by TheMeatFrog

Would you say it's worth it to go from Ultra-D ( not modded like yours ;) ) to expert because of the better VTT?

or a NF4-D(modded SLI) worth to upgrade to eXpert ? :confused:
11-11-2005, 06:23 AM
Gadflyii

Thanks Tony! Can't wait for some VX/EL tests!!!
11-11-2005, 06:38 AM
TheMeatFrog

I just got some old school bh-5 that I'm running in my ultra-d and I'm kind of afraid it's going to take down one of the sticks like it did my VX. :slap: That's my main reason for wanting a upgrade. :)
11-11-2005, 06:51 AM
Tony

Guys you have to decide yourselves if its worth your cash, i won't say either way if it is or is not but I think the debate is worthy of some time.
11-11-2005, 07:03 AM
Ozan Baseski

I have a Dfi Sli-Dr and a Dfi RDX200. Of course the latter had htt problems with its initial bios and I think Tony you mean that when expert is better than rdx, you refer it with its initial release bios. Because I can boot up now to 350+ mhz htt and use my Geil One tccd sticks at 315 mhz 2.5-4-3-7 just like in my Dfi Sli-Dr.

PS. And a small note. My OCZ EL DDR3500 Platinum Limited Edition which has old bh5 modules works like a charm in both boards. 280mhz 2-2-2-5 is no problem in both of them. I must congratulate the people of OCZ for making a very fine product :woot:
11-11-2005, 07:35 AM
Gadflyii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Guys you have to decide yourselves if its worth your cash, i won't say either way if it is or is not but I think the debate is worthy of some time.

SLi-D dead = Expert in my case :)
11-11-2005, 08:18 AM
xgman

Just got mine from Monarch this morning. :)
11-11-2005, 08:31 AM
Despotes

The million dollar question:
Will the Expert reduce/eliminate the amount of cold boot problems(TCCD...) and other similar stability issues many have with the SLI-DR??
11-11-2005, 08:44 AM
uwackme

hmmm

WOuld like a report on how GOLD BH does, and also how 4x 512M results make out for all the rams.

Would love EMC2 to unleash his test equipment on an Expert to tell us how Vtt is working for sure.

Better audio is a sell/upgrade point, but 2 FULL x16 PCIe slots may be a real seller.... if ATI boards can do CFire on it without a dongle or "master card" as they have annouced X1300 X1600 boards will do CFire over PCIe only.

They say X850 X1800 cant on current X8 X8 boards, but on X16 X16, well, lets hope so.
11-11-2005, 08:45 AM
T_M

I hope it fixes the gay-as boot vdimm i still get even with newer BIOS's that cause my 4000vx to fail boot (e.g. 2.66V when set to 3.4V)

http://i4mark.teknetixx.com/crap-vdimm.avi
11-11-2005, 09:13 AM
Tony

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Originally Posted by uwackme

WOuld like a report on how GOLD BH does, and also how 4x 512M results make out for all the rams.

Would love EMC2 to unleash his test equipment on an Expert to tell us how Vtt is working for sure.

Better audio is a sell/upgrade point, but 2 FULL x16 PCIe slots may be a real seller.... if ATI boards can do CFire on it without a dongle or "master card" as they have annouced X1300 X1600 boards will do CFire over PCIe only.

They say X850 X1800 cant on current X8 X8 boards, but on X16 X16, well, lets hope so.

Not sure where you are going here m8, this is an 8x8 SLI Nforce board that does not run crossfire?
11-11-2005, 09:17 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski

I have a Dfi Sli-Dr and a Dfi RDX200. Of course the latter had htt problems with its initial bios and I think Tony you mean that when expert is better than rdx, you refer it with its initial release bios. Because I can boot up now to 350+ mhz htt and use my Geil One tccd sticks at 315 mhz 2.5-4-3-7 just like in my Dfi Sli-Dr.

PS. And a small note. My OCZ EL DDR3500 Platinum Limited Edition which has old bh5 modules works like a charm in both boards. 280mhz 2-2-2-5 is no problem in both of them. I must congratulate the people of OCZ for making a very fine product :woot:

both boards will do well with BH5 etc as thats what the boards were designed to overclock, the issue is this board clocks TCCD real nice also which is strange as the design as i mentioned before is near identicle to the RDX.

I don't think a bios upgrade will get RDX to mirror this eXpert, just like i think we lost cas1.5 to get the TCCD clocking well.
11-11-2005, 09:19 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Despotes

The million dollar question:
Will the Expert reduce/eliminate the amount of cold boot problems(TCCD...) and other similar stability issues many have with the SLI-DR??

you need to have a broad amount of boards on test to answer that...only time will show i feel
11-11-2005, 09:38 AM
Pyr0

i wonder if changing my board to one of these would stop my monitor from freaking out with my memory above 260MHz :confused: :slapass: :stick:
11-11-2005, 09:59 AM
Despotes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

you need to have a broad amount of boards on test to answer that...only time will show i feel

I was thinking the same---

I ordered the A8N32SLI. My cold no-boot this morning pushed me over. :slapass:
11-11-2005, 10:47 AM
Diverge

i just ordered one of these, since my rdx200 has been sitting in step 2 of the rma process for 3 days now, i called newegg to change it to a refund instead of a replacement (after i spend $22 to fedex express it there). The initial results look better to me then the rdx200 anyways :)
11-11-2005, 10:52 AM
jetjaguar

just received my dfi expert .. gonna install it in a bit with my opty 150 ..
11-11-2005, 11:28 AM
IvanAndreevich

Tell me if any of you guys get an appreciable improvement in your CPU overclock
11-11-2005, 12:46 PM
VAdept

Jost got mine as well. To bad I won't have my X2 until tuesday :(

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