Than again, the price/performance ratio is what we need to consider here. 7800GTX plus a suitable mobo < than a single X1800XT that has AVIVO and is 10% faster in some games. I think we need to be more practicle and decide if its worth it...
Than again, the price/performance ratio is what we need to consider here. 7800GTX plus a suitable mobo < than a single X1800XT that has AVIVO and is 10% faster in some games. I think we need to be more practicle and decide if its worth it...
nVidia does not have a new card, per sey, but when the 512 MB versions come out, there may be a spec change. I suspect that it will not only be a memory capacity change, but also type. GDDR3 1.2 at 1400 Mhz. This type is now more plentiful than it was a few months ago. If they had chose this for the 7800 GTX early this spring when they ramped up production for launch, they may have run into supply issues. We also have to consider the 90 nm stepping available in January, which is expected to clock a little higher. Combine those two, and we could have a 600 MHz 7800 GTX with 512 MB of GDDR3 at 1400 Mhz before we can get the ATI in good supply.
ATI has their work cut out for them. The 7800 GTX is now available for as low as $400 US, in very good supply, and with similar performance. I think the nVidia may lock up a number of potential sales before the ATI can supply a single vendor with the XT. There will always be those that choose the ATI because it is tad faster (pretty much all the benchers here at XS), but the majority will look at the value proposition of the 7800 vs the ATI, and go nVidia strictly based on price.
I think the headline should read, "x1800XT, soon to be King of the Single Cards."
I'm sorry i just don't see what the big deal is with these scores... Nvidia has been there done that :/ nore do i see why this card should be called the "king" until it truly proves its self oh and of course actually comes out :/ just my opinion though.
Id say Mickey Mouse knows WTF hes talking about. Also, I think you dont...soo...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...all15/stfu.gif
Also, i could totally see Nvida Having a better, maybe 32 pipe(Ultra??) card that they are sitting on, JUST in case the X800XT is any good... Check out some other opinions here.
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73859
One last thing, IMO, Nvidia has ATI by the ballz right now. Not only does ATI *still* not have a new gen Flagship model, but they also do not have dual card solutions out yet either, leaving Nvidia to take the crown in both single and dual card performance. Now before i get accused of being an nvida fan because i have a 6800 in my sig, my last card was a 9600XT which i loved, until it crapped out on me and it took me shipping it back to ATI THREE friggin times to get it back right. Also, i had an X800XT PE preordered last year, and that too kept getting delayed, so i got tired of waiting and said **** it and bought the 6800GT in my sig, got GREAT performance, and saved about $75-$100. :fact:
Would it upset you if i now replied to you with a "LOL" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_knowitall15
I know that he knows alot and yes he problaly know alot more then me.
But assuming is not knowledge..
Enough OT i think..and back to topic.
lol no offense really, i just love that little gif. found another linky...
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75996
in france we have x1800xl for 400 euros on a 2-4 day order...
sorry for the nvidia fanboy claming x1800xls for 500
400 euro = 487 usd basicly 500 bucks you can get a 7800GTX cheaper then that and the GTX would put the XL to shame :/
It's essentially 1:1 between Euro and USD....PC stuff costs more over there. $400 is still a little more than a GT though, should wait a short while for the price to go down.
I could by a x1880xl in 7 days in a brick and mortar shop from what they say for 419€ pretty much the same than what i would have to pay for a 7800gt, there are 4 models available in the shops around with an average price of 409€.
Price is almost identical.
Quite a bit of OT actually ;) Accusations of fanboyism only derail threads, and so does dwelving on the opinions of one member. However, MickeyMouse is one of few members here who have regularly pushed hardware to their limits...so dont place his expertise in the fan boy bin.Quote:
Enough OT i think..and back to topic.
Everyone speculates when the cards that ppl are supposed to have already are coming out in a month...and even those promises begin to seem shaky after so many paper launches.
ATI's the underdog here, and it has made mistakes, so criticism should be expected...and if not from an Nvidia fan then from who else ? Certainly it wasnt Matrox that launch a nex gen 24-pipe monster on the same day that as its release date. ;)
Despite its shorfalls, i still >>> :slobber: <<< at the X1800XL knowing well that it has one of ATI's older cores, but that's just me :) .
Perkam
not in the mind of any northern american company it's not ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fzero
if we go by your brilliant calculations we end up with an ipod nano 4GB costing 200 euros, it costs us 320...
check ou GTX prices :
http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/7...m&show=0&nbf=4
Thats because your government screws you on GST. We americans can order anything from almost anywhere in the world and we pay ZERO tax.
America will get the bill presented some day. Every one knows that accept for the American people themselves :(Quote:
Originally Posted by longshot
It's not that I don't like Americans, I just don't like the American system.
Umm this isn't about politics and if it was we would all be screwed becuase video cards every single release would be 10x better than the previous generation and you wouldn't know if they even worked at all until you purchased one
It's not the American system that causes this. We control sales tax at a state level and not at the federal level.
We have states that dont charge sales tax at all.
Taxation discussions can go to speak freely...
nuff said
nope, the europeen ipods are made in ireland :slap: (do you want me more explaination on that or do you know that there're no customs within members of shengen....)Quote:
Originally Posted by longshot
but that's another subject, as far as retail price you generally end up with $1 = 1 euro.
Thread Title: "Headline: The return of the King—ATI X1800XT 16pipes reaches 9972 in 3DMark 05"
Gentlement, stsa. (stsa --> Stay on Topic or Stay Away)
Looking forward to Macci's tweaked results aka 41k on air :slobber:
Perkam
Hehe, x1800xl price went up to 469€ already.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
any XL oc results? id really like to know how ati's messed up card can hang.
and arent these actually 32pp cards with 1/2 disabled for faster clocks?
whos going to be the first to try and unlock some of those unused pipes on the xt? for me this card excites me, its always been fun buying a low end card and modding it to be a top end card, but imagine buying a top end card and modding it something untouchable? certainly, the odds of unlocking pipes are very low, but i think some experimentation could be fun, dont you?
wow I can't believe this rumor STILL exists.
R520 WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO BE A 16 PIPE CARD.
oh, i never heard that confinrmed, ignore me
too bad it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
Iam not an Nvidia fan but 24 pipes = less heat and better performance on slower clocks.
love to see a 625mhz card with 24 pipes on hand :slobber:
32 pipes :eek: thats ridiculous...