Another Redline death?

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Originally Posted by Punisher!

Man... go buy GeIL ONE BH, they don't lose warranty even with 3,8V and I don't think GeIL is going mad! :D

http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=69

Working Voltage 2.55V - 3.80V

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should be 2.55V - 2.80V ...

maybe just a typ0 error... ;) or they are going mad :banana:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...27&postcount=1

A Typical sympton that the stick are going to die ...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...56&postcount=4

With Old NF2 3.3V ...

My opinion is quite simple , the problem is not BH5/CH5 spec or mushkin/OCZ design a wrong spec/product ... It's the problem of UTT itself ... Buy a tons of cheap UTT chips and put them directly into module was a " Low End Module " business in the past ... The RMA cost of the failure module can be covered by the money earned by cheap material ... These materials are " UNKNOW RELIABILITY ONES " and not guranteed by the original chip fab !!! Module maker need to take the responsibility of these chips by themself !!! To be more precisely , maybe we should call it " NO BRAND CHIP " but not UTT ... Such kind of material is not guranteed by it's producer ... This is the biggest problem of the whole stuff ... Even the module is not spec at 3.6V/250MHz or the module maker can do their own testing to see if these chips are working in functional aspect , these original materials are still not gurantee by chip company !!! OCZ/mushkin are not no brand or low end module maker , they choose the wrong materials to produce their product no matter the module is 200mhz/2.6V or 250mhz/3.6V !!!

I agree with wtz54321.

I think the production of UTT should be paused and examinated coz this is WAY too obvious (the failures of UTT´s). Personally, I will never ever use them on my personal PC.

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Originally Posted by fareastgq

really guys, stop with all the conjectures and hypothesis's, the only REAL data we have seen here in this WHOLE thread is ecm2's, my 2 cents, if I had some UTT that did kick ass timings and htt, (which I did and there's no way in hell I would have rma'd it, u have to ask yourself, "does this stick still do what it's rated for? if yes, why rma it??? If it DOES NOT do what it's rated for, then yes, by all means rma it) I would deff wait and get a diff board, ie.. grouper (for me) before I jump to conclusions that I have to rma my ram. For all you know, your ram could boot up perfectly fine with the next board at any voltage. Hardware compatability problems are not somthing new, and even if you have 2 of the same kind of sticks with 2 of the same boards, mixing them can yield different results even if you tested 4 sticks of ram that did htt all the same on 1 board, on the next board 3 may do the same and the 4th may do more (or less), hell, post some gathered data and statistics if you believe that UTT based chips are more to blame. If you think it's the board, then post some damn data to back up your claim, the whole point is, POST SOME DATA. This is not directed at the thread starter or anyone in particular, but at everyone in general, we all know and hate that little thing called misinformation with a passion. (well at least I do). This will help ppl like finch64,...So lets help each other out a bit more eh?

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thx dude for the support hehe... but well its not only a utt deaths a lot have been heared about bh5/ch5 deaths and if ti is the same case as mine, all this time none of the ram where death "just cold booted" problem, so mine accomplished what it was meant for, even more but know have this issue and well if later im going to have voltage problems, so why keep it i think all users have the right to know if the companies are buying from winbond and selling to us chips that in certain amount of time they are going to crash and start having all this problems, cause i can agree with one thing isnt motherboard voltage issue problem..cause they are suppossed to work at even 3.5 or 3.6 v right?? talkin about REDLINES AND OCZ VX ones and hearing here that they are dying at 3.2 v after a amount of time, thats just wrong and for me is winbond the one who knows this issue, but they dont wanna loose money :mad:

i never have seen this issue with any samsung chips, so i dont blame the ocz, mushkin companies for me is the factory where this utt, bh5, ch5 came out of and its WINBOND..

so my simple question if anyone can answer.. I suffer with the SO DAMN CALLED COLD BOOT PROBLEM.. am i in all my right for rma and ask for a replace?? :confused:

the answer will help me a lot

do you have cold boot problems at stock settings ?
Yes , then go for RMA . If not , you have no right to claim RMA imho :)

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Originally Posted by FiNcH64

so my simple question if anyone can answer.. I suffer with the SO DAMN CALLED COLD BOOT PROBLEM.. am i in all my right for rma and ask for a replace?? :confused:

the answer will help me a lot

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Already tried emc2 J17 mod?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ght=emc2+zippy

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Originally Posted by Jaco

do you have cold boot problems at stock settings ?
Yes , then go for RMA . If not , you have no right to claim RMA imho :)

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wow thanxx dude, thats the answer i was preying for . ok it seems now that is working perfectly at stock voltages that my lanparty is giving it from default that is 2.6 v.. and if later appeared that cant boot at stock voltages then i have the right of RMA IT??

thanx you give me a big relief :toast:

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Originally Posted by Aleman

Already tried emc2 J17 mod?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ght=emc2+zippy

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WOW :slobber:

thx ALEMAN for that link info, it has solved why my ram cold booted on memory.. its beacuse the ram led was still on when i change my a64 processor..

that issue its such a mess cause it really makes you think that your ram sticks are dead.. and the weird of all was that it only affected to 1 ram stick :confused:

THe problem is when you realize your stick IS DEAD :(