Just what is TCC5?

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07-17-2005, 09:41 PM
hansbroken

Quote:

Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez

if its marked tccd, its probably tccd. there are still available sources of tccD, but its more expenbsive than tcc5. corsair has a cheap, *fresh* supply of tccd, samsung is making it for --Them. doesnt mean other companys cant get it ;) corsair is probably the one keeping it in production. i dont know the details, but im sure other companys can get it, just ahve to pay a bit more.

and yea OCZ uses the bp pcb most of the time last i checked.

Thanks for the info :toast:
07-19-2005, 11:41 AM
ray99mond

http://lp.pcmoddingmy.com/albums/use...gskillfc23.JPG
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=28155
These is my Gskill FC modules overclocking result.
this is the highest stable setting (passed memtest86, super PI 32M, gaming and etc) for this Gskill FC PC4400

BIOS 414-3
2.8Vdimm
Samsung TCC5, 0522
07-28-2005, 09:13 PM
Super strokey

Well i just got my abit an8 sli and my ocz rev 2 3200 (which i assume is tcc5) and its running 256 mhz at 2.5,3,3,7 with 2.8 vdimm. My only real question is should i feed it more volts for more clocks or is tcc5 the same as tccd and more volts actually reduces stability?
08-06-2005, 01:50 AM
SubX

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz
08-06-2005, 02:06 AM
BioPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubX

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

Could you show some SuperPi 16M-32M screens? :fact:
08-07-2005, 06:33 PM
rick_fx

Any pics :rolleyes:
08-08-2005, 12:30 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubX

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

holy crap, nice 4.2s you've got... Mine'll only do up to 2.5-3-3-10 T2 @ 450. I blame socket 754.
08-21-2005, 01:40 AM
Rick_Hunter

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubX

Corsair PC3200C2 Rev4.2 (TCC5)

1.5-2-2-5 T1 @ 450Mhz
2-2-2-5 T1 @ 466Mhz
2.5-3-3-5 T1 @ 610Mhz
2.5-4-3-5 T1 @ 680Mhz
2.5-4-4-5 T1 @ 690Mhz

cas 1.5 on tcc5? :confused:

pics please :rolleyes:
08-21-2005, 01:48 AM
largon

According to AMD's datasheets A64 doesn't actually use CL1.5. Even though some boards have that option it isn't *really* CL1.5.
If the RAM can do CL2, it should be able to do this pseudo-CL1.5.
08-21-2005, 01:54 AM
Rick_Hunter

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

According to AMD's datasheets A64 doesn't actually use CL1.5. Even though some boards have that option it isn't *really* CL1.5.
If the RAM can do CL2, it should be able to do this pseudo-CL1.5.

so cas 2 on tcc5? :confused:
08-21-2005, 02:04 AM
JuanFlaiter

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

According to AMD's datasheets A64 doesn't actually use CL1.5. Even though some boards have that option it isn't *really* CL1.5.
If the RAM can do CL2, it should be able to do this pseudo-CL1.5.

Although some CPUs prefer CL1.5 than CL2.

I can stabilize my BH5 at CL 1.5 280mhz and CL2 278mhz.

Greets!
08-21-2005, 02:36 AM
saaya

are you sure?
i thougt the cas1.5 setting is actually beeing ignored by the system...
09-03-2005, 02:39 AM
SubX

450Mhz 1.5-2-2-5 T1

690Mhz 2.5-4-3-0 T1 (Sandra BW)

:toast:
09-23-2005, 12:29 PM
kiwi

SubX:

What about SP32M or prime? Sandra bandwidth is really low for 690Mhz
09-23-2005, 02:20 PM
wakdog

also that second shot of sandra at DDR690 is actually at 2T not 1T like you said...
09-23-2005, 02:23 PM
Vapor

Sandra always says that I think....the BW is WAYYYYY too low for those clocks though. Me thinks the 4x multi was used.
10-01-2005, 01:30 AM
SubX

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakdog

also that second shot of sandra at DDR690 is actually at 2T not 1T like you said...

Sandra allways shows 2cmd , check it your self ;)

The BW is low because the CPU multiplier was x7 (crap Venice 0524)
10-09-2005, 11:48 PM
S!1v3rB@cK_Dk

Mushkin extreme PC3200 L2

Just got the new Mushkin extreme PC3200 Level 2, I think the part number is 991357.
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...tail.asp?ID=15

I think they carry the TCC5 chips, but im too afraid to take of the heatspreaders to have a peek.
Atm they are doing 270MHz 2.5-3-3-7 with only 2.5v!! And this speed is where my winnies memory controller maxes out, so I cant get em higher. But overall this is real good mem, and they perform like memory that are way more expensive.
I bought em even though a bunch of people recommended me not to, but now I will recommend them to anyone who are looking for some good TCCD like mem! :toast:
10-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Reefa_Madness

According to a thread started by a Mushkin rep (Zebbo) over at OCF, Mushkin has returned to using TCCD, instead of TCC5, in their XP3200 and XP4400.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=419290

Just thought that was worth sharing.

I wonder if perhaps they've done the same with the PC3200 Level 2 V2?
11-09-2005, 08:01 AM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubX

Sandra allways shows 2cmd , check it your self ;)

The BW is low because the CPU multiplier was x7 (crap Venice 0524)

Its also low because of Single Channel :)
12-02-2005, 12:32 PM
qwerty!

yep.
12-15-2005, 09:28 PM
Tamille

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldonko

Just found out that 4200EL is now TCC5. Will post my results in a bit.

[IMG]h***://members.shaw.ca/Eldonko/v11.jpg[/IMG]

EDIT: 284Mhz @2.5-3-3-5 and 2.8v, 289Mhz @2.5-4-3-5 and 3.0v are the limits on this RAM

I have the same ram as you. If i go under 280mhz the ram :banana::banana::banana::banana:s its self. i only just bought it 5 days ago. so far running at 300mhz 1T 2.5-4-3-7 2.8v 1:1 LDT 3x
01-11-2006, 11:04 AM
smolk

I think TCC5 should be a bit better:

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/u.../TCCD-TCC5.PNG

As you can see, TCCD is rated 4ns (250MHz) and TCC5 is rated 3,75ns (266,67MHz) at the same timings. But of course, it can be some Samsung gibberish, even though I don't think it is.

Complete .pdf: http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/u.../TCCD-TCC5.PNG
01-11-2006, 11:15 AM
Vapor

Ugh, we don't more debate on this....and where is that image from? What's with this CF stuff that can do very well at 1.9V? Pffff....we KNOW this: TCC5 is just a lower binning (at Samsung) of the same die as TCCD.
01-12-2006, 06:40 AM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Its also low because of Single Channel :)

if you did the math, ddr690's theoretical bandwidth is 5520mb/s, way under the results he posted ;)

or i could be stupid and missing something key :p:

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