AMD Newark 3700+ @ 3105.1MHz Air-Cooled

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05-05-2005, 04:20 PM
conrad.maranan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

conrad: looks sweet, any plans to try it out on air/water too? :)

I don't have an H2O setup, but I'll definitely give some standard air-cooling a shot for my first few hours. Your air results are excellent considering how cold the air in your region is. It's getting close to summer time hear in Southern California so my results won't be as stellar as yours. :cool:
05-05-2005, 04:20 PM
computersmsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by karelke

Oakville = 512kb (D0)
Newark & Lancaster = 1MB (E3)

No :slapass:

Lancaster = 1 Mb (E4) -> San Diego on S754
Newark = 512Kb (E3) -> Venice on S754
Oakville = 512Ko (D0) -> Winchester on S754

:slap: :toast:
05-05-2005, 04:26 PM
conrad.maranan

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

Newark = 512Kb (E0) -> Venice on S754

Why then does ozzimark's chip have 1MB of L2 cache? :confused:
05-05-2005, 04:28 PM
computersmsa

Because it's a Lancaster :)
Not a Newark ...

Same die than a 1Mb Turion :)
1Mb can't be a Newark :D
05-05-2005, 04:28 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by conrad.maranan

I don't have an H2O setup, but I'll definitely give some standard air-cooling a shot for my first few hours. Your air results are excellent considering how cold the air in your region is. It's getting close to summer time hear in Southern California so my results won't be as stellar as yours. :cool:

yeah, i closed the window that supplies cold air to my rig and had to back down to 2.81ghz :(

computersmsa: there use to be lancaster on AMD's roadmap. it has been taken up by the 1mb and 512kb turions. i'm guessing they're actually the same core, but the ones with bad cache get sold as 512kb
newark is still there as the direct replacement for mobile clawhammers. this is what i have, a 1mb cpu.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...18_608,00.html
lancaster is designated by the.. LD or something on the end of the OPN. it's a completely different core that has been proven by FF and tristian to not scale well.. hitting a max around 2.6-2.7ghz with a bunch of voltage :(
05-05-2005, 04:29 PM
Bennah

Beats me, Ive just got my head around the s939 scene :D
05-05-2005, 04:35 PM
conrad.maranan

Well, Newark, New Jersey, Los Angeles, or whatever they want to call it - it's lookin' like a beautiful chip so far. And that's all that truly matters to me. :D
05-05-2005, 04:35 PM
computersmsa

ozzimark -> I'm in the doubt now :( :D
AMD Mobile in not easy to know at 100 % :D

For me a 1 Mb SSE3 and DSL can only be a Lancaster :)

Newark remplace the Oakville (512Kb).

conrad.maranan -> I don't undertand why you invest in S754 ? :confused:
05-05-2005, 04:37 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by conrad.maranan

Well, Newark, New Jersey, Los Angeles, or whatever they want to call it - it's lookin' like a beautiful chip so far. And that's all that truly matters to me. :D

hahaha, true. makes me wonder now, as i've always assumed that it's newark. hmmm...
anywho, it is indeed an awesome cpu. that is truly what matters, not it's label :toast:
05-05-2005, 04:48 PM
Vandi423

Conrad: :slobber: I want pictures and screenies! :D

Lancaster = 1 MB (E0) - Turion
Judging by the dates I am guessing that Lancaster was the begining of Rev. E not only did they not clock very well but they also were the first to arrive in large quantities. 512K Turions on the way and some are confusing.

Newark = 1MB (E*) I honestly don't know exactly what Rev. it is. But when I first saw it, I instantly thought Turion. So far no 90nm Mobile Athlon 64s with 512 Cache.
05-05-2005, 05:07 PM
Vandi423

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=29839&stc=1

Both 90nm SOI Low-Voltage
Oakville --> Lancaster

NOTICE: Mobile AMD Athlon 64 130nm ---> Newark 90nm SOI

New Roadmap: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...18_608,00.html

Mobile AMD Athlon 64 90nm SOI Low-Voltage (Oakville)

Becomes

AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology 90nm SOI Low-Voltage (Lancaster)

Newark stays the same: Mobile AMD Athlon 64 130nm ---> Newark 90nm SOI

TMSMT34BQX5LD

TM S= Turion Mobile 25W(S)
MT34= 1.8 GHz
B= 754 pin Liddless OmPGA
Q= 1.200v
X= 95°C
5= 1MB L2 Cache
LD= (??? Nothing "official" yet)

TMDML37BKX5LD

TM D= Turion Mobile 35W(D)
ML37= 2.0 GHz
B= 754 pin Liddless OmPGA
K= 1.350v
X= 95°C
5= 1MB L2 Cache
LD= (??? Nothing "official" yet)

AMN3000BKX5BU
AMN3200BKX5BU
AMN3400BKX5BU
AMN3700BKX5BU

90nm Opterons Rev. E
OSA150FAA5BK
OSA252FAA5BL
OSA852FAA5BM

90nm A64 Rev. E
ADA3000DAA4BP
ADA3200DAA4BP
ADA3500DAA4BN
ADA3500DAA4BP
ADA3700DAA5BN
ADA3800DAA4BP
ADA4000DAA5BN

90nm FX55 Rev. E
ADAFX55DAA5BN

See anything in common?
05-05-2005, 05:18 PM
ozzimark

imho, that verifies that BU = newark, thanks for the info vandi :toast:
05-05-2005, 05:25 PM
sang

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awsome results :toast:

but you are not alone,my friend :)

my dead 3400+M,3 months ago
ambient:8-10 C
SLK948U+Delta80EHE

now im sorry ive changed the socket :((

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

for anyone who wants to know what i'll probably be running for 24/7. i was able to run 32m 3 times without problem.

good luck getting those out vandi, i expect some other people to join me in the >3ghz on air with s754 club (am i the only one?) :D:D
05-05-2005, 05:31 PM
ozzimark

nice temp in there :toast:
05-05-2005, 06:10 PM
xenolith

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandi423

I asked when I can expect these:
AMN3000BKX5BU
AMN3200BKX5BU
AMN3400BKX5BU

And I was told that AMD has not released these yet. In other words they don't want you to buy them. There are still way too many Claws left for them to start selling the new stuff. So there is currently no ETA on these parts.

But the 3700+ is in stock unofficially. Probably because it doesn't have a 130nm counterpart.

Isn't this the 3700+ counterpart:
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16819103490

That's why I may wait until Newegg resupplies these lidless Clawhammers with the AMN3700BKX5BU Lancaster... or is it Newark again :wth: ... hey, I got an idea, lets all start calling it the Ozzi :rocker:
05-05-2005, 06:21 PM
Vandi423

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

Isn't this the 3700+ counterpart:
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16819103490

That's why I may wait until Newegg resupplies these lidless Clawhammers with the AMN3700BKX5BU Lancaster... or is it Newark again :wth: ... hey, I got an idea, lets all start calling it the Ozzi :rocker:

Nope. 1.5v = DTR
05-05-2005, 06:21 PM
ozzimark

hehe, i'm honored xeno :D
(though it might be a bit excessive! hahaha)

that's DTR though, not a true mobile :(

edit: snap, vandi beat me :p:
05-05-2005, 06:26 PM
xenolith

Oh yeah. Then this 3700+ Lancaster/Newark is a "true mobile". Then that may mean Newegg may never get them. :(

Thanks Vandi, I may be getting one from you after all. When do you plan on placing an order?
05-05-2005, 06:41 PM
Vandi423

You can PM me you know, if you wish to chat in private.

Yes, this is a Newark. Lancaster is low-power (Turion64).

EDIT: no selling/buying/trading outside the classies
-saaya
05-05-2005, 07:17 PM
frostedflakes

I think I'll be joining you ozzi. Am planning to bite the bullet and just get one of these 3700+ Vandi is going to get instead of hold out for the 3400+.

Hope mine is able to hit 2.7-2.8GHz w/out too much voltage like yours. :)
05-05-2005, 07:23 PM
ozzimark

i'm holding steady (prime95 stable! omg!!) at 2726mhz with 1.45v, 25c air, 38c load temps.
i think i'll bring down temps in about half an hour and see if i can't do 3.2ghz with 1.75v :toast:

i'll be looking forward to having some guys with the same chip, even if it is cool to be the only one ;)
05-05-2005, 08:07 PM
conrad.maranan

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

i'll be looking forward to having some guys with the same chip, even if it is cool to be the only one ;)

It's cool to be the only one with something. Being unique is always wonderful. But the level of fun is going to get kicked up a few notches once these chips start landing in the hands of other enthusiasts.

Now get back to work and show me 3200MHz. :banana:
05-05-2005, 08:12 PM
ozzimark

heh, you'll get sub-zero though :p: :rocker:

i'm still working on the temps.. down to a 25c load temp, i'd like to see a bit lower before i really shoot for anything. ;)
05-05-2005, 08:27 PM
xenolith

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

heh, you'll get sub-zero though :p: :rocker:

i'm still working on the temps.. down to a 25c load temp, i'd like to see a bit lower before i really shoot for anything. ;)

:eek2: Where are you pulling that air from, let me guess your in Canada.

I plan to put it under an Aquagate water cooling system and would be content with 2800~2900 ... 3ghz 24/7 would be awsome though.
05-05-2005, 09:03 PM
ozzimark

pretty close, just under the boarder in rochester, NY. it's about 7c outside last i checked.

sadly, that's not good enough. couldn't break 3.1ghz. 1.75v just made things worse. idle temp rose up 30c with ~12c intake air :eek:
i was playing with ram, even tried my value ram that did ~270mhz before, and still could only get to 3095mhz before it locked. :(
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=16228

guess i'll have to scrounge together the money or beg someone for a phase unit :p: (i wish!)

edit: i've decided to swap the board for my k8n neo tomorrow. i'm curious to see if my results are any different if i can finally use the ram divider for a good purpose again (dfi: :slapass: )

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