maybe you don't need such cold temps to go higher ? maybe stock mach2/vapoLS would do the job ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
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maybe you don't need such cold temps to go higher ? maybe stock mach2/vapoLS would do the job ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
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Originally Posted by blinky
Sorry i tryed the AS8 and 530j and either you have to have exact pressuer on the new LG775 socket or they have the cold bug. It will not boot @ -47c. I let it warmup to around 2c. then boot and turned it on, Then it just messes up in windows. I'm going to try 1 more time today to make sure the 530j E0 has the cold bug. But seems like it to me. Air i can get 4.2ghz 280 1:1 3-4-4-8. 1.55v
The 2 AMD 64 cpu's booted, But the overclocks was wrose. Air yeilded more.
CBBID 0451 EPMW 3200+ 2600mhz Air 1.35v 133%, CBBHD 0449 MPM 3000+ 2700mhz Air 1.40v 126%. 2 MB's DFI NF4 SLI-DR, and Gigabyte K8NS-Ultra 939. phasechange i couldn't even get them to run at the air speeds with out a reboot so i said "f" this, air is better.
The only things that works are my 2.8c M0 SL6Z5 on the IC7 275 1:1 3.8ghz ummm and the 2.4c i have. all 130nm . ummm
Phase change to me is going to be phased out. Pisses me off as i just got my chilly1 unit. Now it seems to be not important.
Peace Nugz
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Originally Posted by Nugz
I was really hoping San Diego would do well, as I was planning on getting a PC ICE -110C cascade :(
Looks like I'll stay put and wait for what the FX-57 has to say...
For "everyone else", FX-55 is still the king. Now AMD better get its act together otherwise Intel will possibly get the idea of improving their brilliant Dothan core.
Can't you get a A8N SLI DEl, somewhere or MSI, maybe its youre mobo. Seen this before
A lot of ppl had problems with the Winnies. Even ice water caused problems, and phase change was no go.
I have had 4 winnies, and not one of them had problems. I could start the cooler and let the chip cool down to -50c .. they still booted up right up and I got some nice gains over running water.
The only way I could get problems was if I started the system first, and then started the cooler. When the CPU temp started to fall and hit 0c the system froze.
This was with a MSI Neo2.
Would be nice to have a PCI Diagnostic card (Port 80 diag?) to see where in the boot up process the Venice/San Diego fails.
You wouldn´t happen to have one lying around, would you OPB? :)
I REALLY hope its a mobo issue tho I only have a single stage cooler.
Even if it's a motherboard issue, its terrible for us with a DFI NF4 :(
i may be mistaken but i was pretty sure that an AMD exec. was quoted as saying that the cause of the "cold-bug" is the memory controllers and that AMD is actively working on the problem. I'll have to go hunt down that quote....
UPDATE:
ah ha - here it is...presented by Evil Spork....
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59236
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Originally Posted by HardcoreNL
Not Mobo's problem, Tried 4 boards already.
Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI...All done
OPB - so the 'critical' temperature point for your San Diego appears to consistantly be -80 degrees celcius?
Is this consistantly the point where the 'cold bug' kicks in, or does the chip sometimes crap out earlier, or later?
As an aside, thanks and props to you for being a pioneer, and testing this stuff out first. You could be saving a lot of people a lot of money with this testing and with this thread. I'll be holding out on a San Diego purchase untill this is resolved, because of this thread - you may well have saved me ~$400 on a processor incompatibile with my Mach II (I know that single-phase temperatures aren't causing huge problems, but I'm still going to wait for a resolution.
So, thanks and good luck.
No, with your Mach2 it'd be FINE, you're talking core temps of only -10C to -20C with that cooler!! That'd be a perfect combo!Quote:
Originally Posted by felinusz
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Any updates with your Diego, Charlie?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Hope so. My cooler uses the same compressor and evap as the MachII. Reaches -54c unloaded and -42c with the load from a FX55 @ 3100Mhz 1.8vcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie
I might have to boot up before the CPU temp gets lower than -40c tho.. I mean, with the system turned off, the CPU Temp will be -50c, and then ... no boot?!?
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Originally Posted by charlie
Master, you tried DI on 4000+ SD yet? :p:
@Felinusz,
Go ahead and dig it deeply, you won't be sorry to own that combo. :toast:
Yeah, actually I LOVE it. I was planning on getting it, keeping it for a week and selling it while the demand was still good, now I may keep it. It's fast as hell at 3D and benches like mad. So it doesn't "do" -100C.... ok. But if a Prom or a Vapochill or a custom PC will get it up to 3500mHz or so, who cares?? Bottom line, most people here are on air and this is a great AIR cpu. 2900mHz 3D stable with quiet AIR at 24C ambient? That's excellent. For anyone with AIR or water cooling, it's OFFICIAL, there's no need to buy an FX. And I'll try DI on it, would of tried last night, but lost my o/s switching from MP uniprocessor to ACPI multi and then back :shrug: and ran out of time :(Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I still MAY sell it, but now it'll take a few more $$ to tickle my hand ;)
@Kevin, do you still have your Vapo LS??
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OPB you have only tryed this on nf4 mobos, could the chipset be the problem??
The dfi board is nf4 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl
that is what he is saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by L@TrO
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Originally Posted by L@TrO
he means to try it on a via chip set like the kt800.
I don't think that'd be NV chipset problem.
I tried on Abit Av8...same thing.
Could just well be the cpu then.
Earlier models may have the problem and AMD may change this and the later models to clock better. Who knows. Amd tend to change something anyways. Just look at the recent FX55's clocking to the early FX55's.
Ahh. Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by prc8
well charlie got his 4000+ Diego to 3.5GHz, is that right? How high can it 3dmark at what temp? fx55 is no longer king, it may not have cold bug but Diego is the new king!
No, I haven't even put it on DI yet, lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
My max is 29xxmHz... I was simply saying that IF someone hits 3500mHz, it'll be as fast as fx55, imho...
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FX55 at what ???Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Perkam
3600? :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
50-60Mhz was the difference in newcastles/winchesters