The official nickname for the San Diego core is not Sanni. It's Sandy. ;)
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The official nickname for the San Diego core is not Sanni. It's Sandy. ;)
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Originally Posted by saiamne
who knows yet, but one thing for sure this is their first time making 1mb on 90nm and its a fact 90nm means more dies per wafer. Price is to be determined once stores recieve their Diegos. $350 sure sounds cheap but one can hope....
"I got news from my AMD person today. They said that 3700, 4000, and FX-55 will be out in the San Diego (1024) flavor. FX-57 won't show up until 3rd quarter. 3500 is a Venice (512) chip."
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/
whys this roadmap showing a 3500+ Diego? Is this in error or really a cripped 512k cache one which is basically a Venice?
Hey ferry 82, there will be NO san diego core fx-55.
jooo!!! that sounds better...Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
i see some questions:
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why is my sandy gettin so hot? ^^
can i buy your sandy? how much cost your sandy?
ect....
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:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
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sry 4 spamming a little bit... but im so nervous (is this right?!). i´ll stop that!
I'm not so sure about this one...I mean...personally I'd rather just shorten it to Diego...sounds more manly...more cool...For me at least it would feel more like my trusted latin side-kick in some old western flick [booming voice] Come Diego! We must off to the Aztec level in CS:S! [/voice]Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
notwithstanding the fact that I once dated, for some time unfortunately, a woman named Sandy who had sold her soul to satan and was posessed by a demon (a true story I guarantee you)
I say we POLL it to determine the name of this chip forevermore!
Read the topic dude. :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by zA.Gosu
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
[OFFTOPIC]Well, I'd much rather be with a Sandy (hot, sensual female) than a Diego (Italian mafia hitman). But that's just me. :cool:[/OFFTOPIC]
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Originally Posted by ferry82
Just correcting you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferry82
Is there going to be no San Diego 3500+, then? That's kind of disappointing. I was hoping for a cheap-ish 1MB L2 cache CPU that I could overclock the crap out of.
Oh, well. Venice is still pretty good. :p:
{QUOTE} I got news from my AMD person today. They said that 3700, 4000, and FX-55 will be out in the San Diego (1024) flavor. FX-57 won't show up until 3rd quarter. 3500 is a Venice (512) chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandybeach
OPP
LOL, So as you were saying SANDYBEACH
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Originally Posted by mcnbns
amd's roadmap still shows a 3500+ Diego but it could be in error or a 512k cache verson at 2.2GHz. Who knows, we will find out when its out, im not gonna speculate on the if's as for 3700+ we dont yet know its price but it might be somewhat affordable to some, at least its not some $900 fx55 if you want 1mb goodness.
Is anyone else really bored with CPU's these days.
I mean come on AMD, these tiny little speed increases are crap. Wow better memory controllers, SEE3, which does :banana::banana::banana::banana: all, etc etc.
Look at video cards. Nvidia and ATI might as well stop making any more GPU's as these CPU's are no way in hell fast enough.
Thats why SLI is such a waste in my view. Geesh i mena the only AMD CPU thats gonna be faster than a 6 month old chip is the FX-57, and thats only 2.8ghz and costs an arm and a leg and isn't out for ages. Surely they can get more mhz?
yeah, cpu speeds are kinda static, was saying in some thread, basically i mean a 3200+ was 2.2Ghz, there was an even faster chip with less cache, forget which though, and in two years we've gone up to 2.6Ghz. people forget that, on release all the reviews showed in 3d, and encoding(sse2) the athlon 64 was a decent lead infront of the ath xp, but in general performance the IPC isn't very much better than the athlon xp. overall we've seen very little basic increase in pure alu/fpu power from amd, OR intel in some time.
dual core is literally giving us double the fpu/alu power, but without quite the same amount of resources per core. but it is a BIG increase in power, just needs to be utilized properly which again will take some time, but not too long.
dual cores and proper apps will see cpu speed rocket, and in two , three years the more cell type design with added extra cores that specialise in certain areas adding to the dual cored power. but i don't see that there will be too much increase in power from a 2.2Ghz dual cored ath 64 to 2 years later, they'll probo only be up to 2.6Ghz dual cored.
I think 2.8-2.9GHz out of a Venice/San Diego is a lot better than the current 2.5-2.6GHz out of a CBBID Winchester, don't you? This "tiny speed increase" will put AMD's CPUs in the running with those über Pentium 630s that are clocking to 4.4-4.5GHz (check Xtreme Overclocking section for some threads).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grov
And one more thing: Intel's speed increases have been pretty crappy lately, too. We've finally come to a point where a lot more MHz just isn't feasible. As drunkenmaster says, dual core is likely to change all that.
Yeah but thats with overclocking, hardly any of the market o/c, overclocking isn't the point or the issue here's it's stock speeds, and the proggesion made in such a long time.
Also surely, CPU's are totally overpriced. I mean look at a GPU it has it's own memory, resistors, etc, etc, etc, and whats a CPU a blog of silicon? Now i ain't no expert by any strech of the imagination, but current CPU's are to pricey.
It wasn't as bad in the Athlon XP days, but then AMD didn't churn out loads of the same crappy CPU's with different names to confuse everyone everyone 4 months or so.
Some company in the UK says on APR 15 or later they will have the DO version of the FX55 90NM
http://www.elara.ie/products/details...oductID=113765
Wow 500 euro is that price correct????????Quote:
Originally Posted by Unrealcpu
Cheapest 130nm in Holland is 800 euros :stick:
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Originally Posted by Grov
Higher IPC has helped make up for MHz increase being stagnant. I used to have an xp2000 doing 2.2 to 2.4GHz then a 2800+ newcastle at 2.2GHz which utterely crushed my athlon xp. Then I upgraded to a 3200+ castle and gained 300MHz. Next I went s939 winchester and gained huge differences, it was almost like going a64 all over. Venice may be another jump but dual core will be the next revolution. I never bothered with $500 or even $200 gpus because as you said "these CPU's are no way in hell fast enough" and I am totally in agrement. In fact I might sell my 9800pro and go back to my softmodded 9500 as its still plenty fast and I need the $ for Venice or even Diego in order to boost my gaming fps and of course 3dmark performance ;)
is that the 9800Pro you already have for sale on Ebay????
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i was just thinking the other day how stagnant the cpu arena has been. i still believe that MB manu's are trying to catch up anyway, producing higher powered cpu's may not be the answer in the short run, getting the unit to run like a well tuned Ferrari, without bottleneck this and bottleneck that, everything working in a pure flow, CPU, ram, MB, etal.
although it is getting better, there is mucho room for improvement before CPU speeds are gonna make any real difference.
baldy :slobber:
IPC is bull crap you call that performance increase? I won't say anything more as ill most likely getting anoying with your dribble, but the point still stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Is dual core really going to make much difference, in games especially?
/prays for the 3500+ Sandy. :bounce:
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Originally Posted by Grov
take a look at a p4, a tbred, a barton, an a64(castle, claw, winny, venice) and get back to me. Its a fact :fact:
"although it is getting better, there is mucho room for improvement before CPU speeds are gonna make any real difference."
We have been seeing increases in IPC rather than MHz. Even Intel is raising the IPC and I dont just mean more cache either. They already have Dothan for one....
For European : http://www.bel-hardware.be/forum/viewtopic.php?id=396
Grouped order of Venice, San Diego and Turion !
And now we have them for Pre-order here in Denmark :)
www.m-e.dk
3500+ San Diego was a mistake. There is a BN 3500+, but it is "4BN", meaning there was 1MB L2 on die ("BN") but ("4") only 512K of it has been left on. So, it is effectively a Venice 3500+ in terms of performance.
These parts are made from 3700+ San Diegos that either had a partially defective L2 cache, or AMD disabled it even though they did not have to, for supply/demand/pricing reasons.