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02-26-2005, 03:46 PM
goatman

any places ship this stuff to australia?
02-26-2005, 04:54 PM
LikwidKool

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here's a piccy of some genuine VX! Not bad eh!;)

even knowing that the "value ram" uses VX IC's, and they are a great price, I still like the idea of "knowing" I am getting hand tested IC's on my ram. Like Ryan say's, it's going to be a gamble, so I hope people don't get all sore when their "value vx" doesn't do 260 2-2-2.
02-26-2005, 10:17 PM
Magnj

liwid that screenie is good enough for me 265 @ 145$ is pretty sick nasty.
02-26-2005, 11:01 PM
Jackass

hell if i can get 250 im happy
02-27-2005, 12:09 AM
Ashe

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Originally Posted by LikwidKool

here's a piccy of some genuine VX! Not bad eh!;)

even knowing that the "value ram" uses VX IC's, and they are a great price, I still like the idea of "knowing" I am getting hand tested IC's on my ram. Like Ryan say's, it's going to be a gamble, so I hope people don't get all sore when their "value vx" doesn't do 260 2-2-2.

We all know what VX can do
Even knowing that you can get 2 pairs for the same price makes me forget about any hand tested stuff :rolleyes:

Seeing some people hit 240 or even 250 and not too many "bad" pairs would be enough for me
02-27-2005, 02:45 AM
Punisher!

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Originally Posted by LikwidKool

here's a piccy of some genuine VX! Not bad eh!;)

even knowing that the "value ram" uses VX IC's, and they are a great price, I still like the idea of "knowing" I am getting hand tested IC's on my ram. Like Ryan say's, it's going to be a gamble, so I hope people don't get all sore when their "value vx" doesn't do 260 2-2-2.

Voltage?
02-27-2005, 03:08 AM
sheeno

https://www.ramstore.ca/showproduct.php?id=442

Is this the stuff right here?
02-27-2005, 04:26 AM
goatman

no, the winbond utt has a 'W' on the end of the part number
02-27-2005, 07:37 AM
Magnj

when will this hit newegg?
02-27-2005, 12:42 PM
Ashe

I would like to know, how many of the VX fail the test (240 2-2-2 or whatever)?
Any info on that?
02-27-2005, 12:44 PM
Rabbi_NZ

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Originally Posted by Ashe

I would like to know, how many of the VX fail the test (240 2-2-2 or whatever)?
Any info on that?

Just look at the TwinMOS DDR400 results
02-27-2005, 12:54 PM
Ashe

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Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ

Just look at the TwinMOS DDR400 results

Sorry but I`m a real noob concerning RAM i guess *shy*
Could u help me out, i don`t find anything :(

In the VX/UTT thread they all reach 240 @3.3V
02-27-2005, 12:59 PM
Rabbi_NZ

250 2-2-2-8 @ 3.3vDimm is "ALMOST" guaranteed if you have a good AMD64 system :)
02-27-2005, 01:14 PM
Ashe

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Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ

250 2-2-2-8 @ 3.3vDimm is "ALMOST" guaranteed if you have a good AMD64 system :)

So that gives me a pretty good chance hitting 240 2-2-2 on a S754 rig when i buy 2 pairs i guess ;)
Sounds good to me :D
02-27-2005, 01:41 PM
ryanpgroovy

If you want a guarantee I would go with the VX 3200 guys.
We tend to be really loose on RMA'ing VX 3200 that doesnt meet peoples expectations (within reason of course).

I just dont want to see people unhappy if there not getting 250 , and I am sure many of these wont reach 240-250 ( only about 60% of the UTT pass the VX 3200 test spec in our in house testing )

On the other hand if your willing to take a gamble , or would be happy at something less considering the low price , then go for it.

Sorry if I sound cautious about this , but I am used to having all the potentialy sub-par parts screened out before shipping a product and doing something that it meant to compete on the low price really worries us.
02-27-2005, 02:17 PM
Ashe

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Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy

I just dont want to see people unhappy if there not getting 250 , and I am sure many of these wont reach 240-250 ( only about 60% of the UTT pass the VX 3200 test spec in our in house testing )

On the other hand if your willing to take a gamble , or would be happy at something less considering the low price , then go for it.

Thanks for the info.
I didn`t think it would be that "bad" (60%) but it`s still worth it.
110€ is still extremely cheap for 1gig of ram, don`t think you can get 1gig under 90€ here (and surely no ocz with lifetime warranty @default specs), so that`s a maximum of 10-20€ loss per GB if they don`t go well and i resell them.
Still worth it i think ;)

Guess i`ll wait one more week to see the first benchies and call my US-friends ;)

thx 4 your support ryanpgroovy :bows:
02-27-2005, 03:32 PM
Magnj

hmm
02-27-2005, 05:55 PM
ryanpgroovy

I am just trying to be carefull , I mean yeilds vary but I want to show a worst case scenario here :-)

I do think many that dont do the VX 3200 test spec should still do 2-2-2 with the right voltage at decent speeds its just that if its untested you never know what your getting , for example it could max out at 210 2-2-2 or it could do 250 2-2-2.
02-27-2005, 07:32 PM
Jessfm

Think about it guys, realisticly if only 60% pass their target for the normal VX line the other UTT has to go somewhere, out of the 40% that does'nt pass how much do you think will end up on the Value line ?

All of it, but if demand strips the supply then maybe they will start to use tested IC's.

As ryan said if you want 250 buy the right stuff or you maybe better off with chancing Twinmoss etc.
02-27-2005, 07:56 PM
p0tempkin

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Originally Posted by Jessfm

Think about it guys, realisticly if only 60% pass their target for the normal VX line the other UTT has to go somewhere, out of the 40% that does'nt pass how much do you think will end up on the Value line ?

All of it, but if demand strips the supply then maybe they will start to use tested IC's.

As ryan said if you want 250 buy the right stuff or you maybe better off with chancing Twinmoss etc.

But I think he said that these ICs were completely untested. So you have a 60% chance of getting something good.
02-27-2005, 08:03 PM
Jessfm

Ok so where are al lthe Bad IC's going ?
02-27-2005, 08:12 PM
Skip

by my calculations if 100% of purchased IC's or however memory companies do it go into the pc3200 cheapo vx. so if 60% of purchased IC's go into VX, in order for ocz to make up for the lost IC's to speed binning, they must charge 233.33 if the cheapo is 140$. but its not like those that didn't pass get thrown out, they get thrown into pc2700 lines and so on.

vx at newegg is 245. so actually ocz is charging a pretty fair price for vx. but its not like they throw out the bad IC's which is how my calculations are done, they just put them in different memory.
02-27-2005, 08:29 PM
Rabbi_NZ

Read the whole thread...

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Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy

They are not failed VX , but being untested for VX is not a guarantee they will do VX speeds either.

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Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ

Few more question Ryan...

1) Is there another value product that we can find the failed VX in?

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Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy

ok to answer the question is there another value product using these chips , yes

some of the normal value could have them , however thats where the fails go , many of those fail the low voltage spec for VX 3200 and will still pass the high voltage spec
but I still dont think its a very good deal
02-27-2005, 08:35 PM
Skip

yea i know. as a matter of fact, i asked one of those questions he responded to.

i was just saying that vx is pretty fairly priced, and if the 60% figure is true, then they are being fair with charging their speed binning premium.

i think the first quote was ryan's direct response to my question.

double checked: yes that first quote is right below my question to him. i read the thread.
02-28-2005, 03:49 AM
SAE

Great deal on that value ram :thumbsup:

Some peeps may even consider buying 2gig of that stuff instead of 1gig vx ;)

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