Nice to be welcomed.Quote:
Originally posted by Hardass
I think if they were in trouble they would not come here at all! Rather stay away and just let everyone wonder.
Welcome to Steen and Bulldog20. Glad to have you both at Xtreme.:toast:
Thanks:D
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Nice to be welcomed.Quote:
Originally posted by Hardass
I think if they were in trouble they would not come here at all! Rather stay away and just let everyone wonder.
Welcome to Steen and Bulldog20. Glad to have you both at Xtreme.:toast:
Thanks:D
Bah! no-one welcomed me....Quote:
Originally posted by Hardass
I think if they were in trouble they would not come here at all! Rather stay away and just let everyone wonder.
Welcome to Steen and Bulldog20. Glad to have you both at Xtreme.:toast:
/me goes and sulks in the corner :(
Welcome to Xtreme Galifrey :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally posted by Galifrey
Bah! no-one welcomed me....
/me goes and sulks in the corner :(
hehe Thanks....
dint bother me honest :D
Has someone been deleting posts?? There was a post by bulldog directly above this one:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5633#post45633
It was there yesterday, and was the post that provoked my response at the link above... seems pointless havin a forum if bitsa threads are gonna disappear making ppls comments look just plain stoopid...
Lo, I have deleted the post, as I felt I was not in a position to ask such questions.Quote:
Originally posted by Marci
Has someone been deleting posts?? There was a post by bulldog directly above this one:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5633#post45633
It was there yesterday, and was the post that provoked my response at the link above... seems pointless havin a forum if bitsa threads are gonna disappear making ppls comments look just plain stoopid...
I think thats the one your on about :D
sorry about that :)
Cheers
This is just my opinion and frankly I'm glad Vapochill is losing business now because of their arrogance and inability to give us what we wanted for a couple of years now. I think that rumor is BS by vapochill to discredit the Prometia. It's not our fault Vapochill dropped the ball and wouldn't build their system with a more powerful compressor. Then a new company comes along that blows the doors off vapochills performance and they are claiming copyright infringement and other BS. If Vapochill would have got off their butts a long time ago and realized their cooling solution wasn't cutting it and released a better product, they wouldn't be looking like such slackers right now. I know right now I would never own a vapochill. Looks like their arrogance and what they thought we wanted will lose them a lot of business. All those years of saying they had enough cooling power when it was actually not even close to what is needed will bite them in the butt. Right now a far superior cooling solution is making their product look like an air cooled heatsink and they rush out the improved version. Competition is good and I'm glad Astek is getting a taste of what happens when you think you have the market cornered and customers at your mercy.
Wolf is correct. Myself and others asked Asetek about the possibility of a higher performing Vapochill, and Asetek always said they weren't interested and that their studies showed there was no point, since other factors limited the overclock once the temperature was down to the level the vapochill provides. I'm sure Bulldog and Friar Tuck remember this. The Prometeia became available which gives us what we asked for. The premium vapochill seems like a reaction to the Prometeia's success. Would it even be available if Chip Con hadn't started selling the Prometeia? Based on Asetek's prior comments in their forum I really doubt it.
Lo, I would say he's not correct. I don't see why asetek are losing sales. You know something I don't?Quote:
Originally posted by bmg
Wolf is correct. Myself and others asked Asetek about the possibility of a higher performing Vapochill, and Asetek always said they weren't interested and that their studies showed there was no point, since other factors limited the overclock once the temperature was down to the level the vapochill provides. I'm sure Bulldog and Friar Tuck remember this. The Prometeia became available which gives us what we asked for. The premium vapochill seems like a reaction to the Prometeia's success. Would it even be available if Chip Con hadn't started selling the Prometeia? Based on Asetek's prior comments in their forum I really doubt it.
The BD50 compressor has been in the pipe line for a fair while. I should think it takes time to setup an in house building production line. The whole vapochill is made in Asetek workshops, case included. The SE & PE where probably planned long before Prom came around. It takes time to design and release a new product.
You remember the rumours of the dual unit, I beleive the compressor used in testing was the BD50, if they spent time testing and configing the BD50 then why not use it.
Thing is, all the vapo was upgraded, not just the compressor. Asetek have found new production processes to lower the prices and improve the product.
I see no problem with that. :D
Cheers
Unless my memory is faulty I recall threads asking about the BD50 compressor in a single processor vapochill and Asetek shooting down the idea.
I agree that Asetek's sales volume is probably going up rather than down, especially with the new pricing and improvements. I got a lot of good use out of my old vapochill (from the first shipment of the Socket version into the US), but am looking forward to getting my Prometeia for more Xtreme cooling.
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Originally posted by bmg
Wolf is correct. Myself and others asked Asetek about the possibility of a higher performing Vapochill, and Asetek always said they weren't interested and that their studies showed there was no point, since other factors limited the overclock once the temperature was down to the level the vapochill provides. I'm sure Bulldog and Friar Tuck remember this. The Prometeia became available which gives us what we asked for. The premium vapochill seems like a reaction to the Prometeia's success. Would it even be available if Chip Con hadn't started selling the Prometeia? Based on Asetek's prior comments in their forum I really doubt it.
We are always ...all of us, looking for higher performing units / peripherals, CPU's etc.. for overclocking. :p
Asetek, like most other companies, pursue a slow but steady improvement of their product.
When the need for a more powerful and bigger compressor arose, Asetek had already been testing it for some time, making sure that all the bugs were ironed out before releasing it for general retail sale.
I have been pushing Asetek to produce a 120 / 240 volt compressor unit myself, but they would only release it if they saw the need, after first pre-testing it extensively.
I believe that there WILL be a larger more powerful Vapochill unit eventually, with a bigger higher capacity compressor, but it will only be released when Asetek are completely satisfied that :
1 : There is a need for such a unit.
2: It has been extensively tested by Asetek.
3: There is a viable market for the unit.
4: Lastly...that I get one first. :D
FT.
I firmly believe in competition, and im thrilled that both Asetek and Chip-con have reps now on these boards.I also hope that in the spirit of good will, Asetek will try and help sort what ever situation there is out, and push to bring us a product that is as good or better than the Prometeia. This will push Chip-con to fight back with the consumer gaining better products and the technology behind these products intern will evolve which has got to be good for every one.
Thanks again chaps for dropping by :toast:
Bigtoe...a very happy Prometeia user.
Its easy to understand Asetek reacting the way they did. The last arse-hole to provide phase change cooling technology was one of their resellers.
Personally, I could not give a öööö whether Asetek, or Chip-Con are left standing, as long as there continues to be phase-change technology available at decent prices (Vapochill prices have been very competitive of late ;)).