i915/i925x feature overclocking prevention

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06-21-2004, 02:54 PM
saaya

Quote:

Originally posted by bigtoe
I have a friend who has a retail 3.2 he will try with.If he reaches 3.6gig he is over 10% as 3.52 should be the cutoff.

Have you noticed though all these sites saying there is no lock are all using the press kit ES samples....wouldn't you think they would get a retail chip to be sure??

well i guess they gave them es samples for several reasons. if you give them an es chip they can review a 2.8 3.2 3.4 and 3.6ghz chip with only one cpu (if it has 14-18 multis unlocked) so you dont need to ship all the reviewers several chips.
and maybe also because they wanted the reviewers to oc their systems to make it look like a promising platform. imagine nobody had found out about this ocing lock, a load of people would have jumped on the new 775 train and would have ended up with a sucky oc-locked system. i dont like thg, but i have to thank them a lot for pointing out that the chipsets feature an overclocking lock!
06-21-2004, 04:29 PM
Anemone

Agreed Saaya - good thing we know

Intel is waving a lot of us goodbye in the process - but I guess that's their choice
06-22-2004, 06:37 PM
=w=

Wait wait wait, if the lock is recognized after BIOS posts, and then disables. Wouldn't clockgen do the trick?
06-22-2004, 07:36 PM
Anemone

"theoretically" but I won't claim that I understand the guts of clockgen... Anyone able to test this?
06-22-2004, 07:51 PM
zabomb4163

Quote:

Originally posted by Jrocket
AMD will never lock anything as far as the FSB is concerned. They got big mostly because of the enthusiasts. They might give you less features for ocing for cheaper cpus such as the A64 A64 FX type deal.

amd also said they would never lock multipliers...
06-22-2004, 11:13 PM
enzoR

Quote:

Originally posted by zabomb4163
amd also said they would never lock multipliers...

i know, but that was still in the t-bird days. i agree they said never but still they locked the bartons :(
06-23-2004, 12:12 PM
Crankster

Really ppl do you honestly belive what you post? 20 % of intel CPUs overclocked!?? 2 % absolute tops, more like >0.5 %. Intel comitted enthusiast market suicide. They suck, and alas they should be boycotted.

(grossly exaggerated)
06-23-2004, 01:39 PM
zabomb4163

asus has already bypassed it though
06-23-2004, 01:58 PM
HawainPanda

...really?, i dunno, most of the people...don't even know wth overclocking is
06-23-2004, 02:10 PM
Anemone

Asus bypassed it to 24% only. It's better than 10% but that's still not "open" yet. Still kudos to Asus :)

I guess

1 no OC (10% just doesn't count really)

2 charge 1.25x the price for a worse performing chip FX vs EE

3 don't offer 64bit on that chip

4 Give up on basically ever keeping up with the FX

I think Intel is basically willing to say goodbye to the gaming market. That seems to be the message here. They don't really care to compete, or maybe they just can't, so they seem to figure "why bother". They'll lock things down, sell to the ignorant, and probably figure it won't cost them much of a market share.

"Hello AMD? Yeah, the other guy charging more thinks you can't give me a perfectly good system. You can? And it will work better than the other guy's? Great, let's put together an order"

Time to teach the arrogant Intel a lesson they'll read on their bottom line... "goodbye"
06-23-2004, 02:57 PM
Tony

Well its official..I have info that states the lock is there..10%.

Abit seem the best at the mo doing better than Asus bypassing the lock. I feel sorry for the smaller guys who don't have the resorces to bypass the lock..their boards will sell a lot less.

Next question i want answered is will EE be fully unlocked and fully overclockable on the 925X? thats is the second tidbit i was given 7 weeks ago.
06-23-2004, 04:33 PM
saaya

Quote:

Originally posted by bigtoe
Well its official..I have info that states the lock is there..10%.

Abit seem the best at the mo doing better than Asus bypassing the lock. I feel sorry for the smaller guys who don't have the resorces to bypass the lock..their boards will sell a lot less.

Next question i want answered is will EE be fully unlocked and fully overclockable on the 925X? thats is the second tidbit i was given 7 weeks ago.

10x for sharing that info! :toast:
06-23-2004, 05:11 PM
=w=

BTX and the move to 775 is all for OEM manufacturers. It's cheaper for them to buy, thus making it easier to sell to the public...except for the EE.

Edit: Yeah, I know we weren't talking about BTX.
06-23-2004, 06:42 PM
WesM63

w00t intel ownz...

NOT. Like many people said. Intel is not after us "enthusiast" they are after mainstream. I guess there is a price for everything.

Long live AMD.

<----- AMD Fanboy :D
06-23-2004, 06:53 PM
Çhrist0ph

Quote:

Originally posted by WesM63
w00t intel ownz...

NOT. Like many people said. Intel is not after us "enthusiast" they are after mainstream. I guess there is a price for everything.

have ya'll checked out the intel section lately? jeebus christ, some ppl are actually falling for this new crap.
Who wants to spend $299 on a 925 board? Yay for slow performance!

Quote:

Long live AMD.

<----- AMD Fanboy :D

DITTO
06-23-2004, 08:04 PM
aoc007

Im sure Intel could beat AMD in the enthusiast market, but they wouldn't be making as much money so they don't. My next mobo/cpu upgrade will be to 939.
06-23-2004, 09:39 PM
Çhrist0ph

Quote:

Originally posted by aoc007
Im sure Intel could beat AMD in the enthusiast market, but they wouldn't be making as much money so they don't. My next mobo/cpu upgrade will be to 939.

They could...if they dropped the prices on the EE's a little and pulled some next-gen technology out of their a$$...next-gen technology that could actually outperform the previous
06-23-2004, 11:36 PM
OC Detective

What price Intel subsequently puts the squeeze on Asus and Abit not to override the lock? After all they have enough muscle to threaten to not supply them with the chipsets....
06-24-2004, 12:18 AM
HawainPanda

lol..cute avatar detective...man, im sure intel will try and "persuade" mobo makers not to overide the lock
06-24-2004, 02:47 AM
Sheik

Quote:

Originally posted by saaya
i never heard of anybody ripping out his P4 when he only wanted to remove his heatsink

Has happened to me 3 times already with P4 and once with A64. Too much Arctic Silver :(
06-24-2004, 03:09 AM
enzoR

Quote:

Originally posted by Ã‡hrist0ph
have ya'll checked out the intel section lately? jeebus christ, some ppl are actually falling for this new crap.
Who wants to spend $299 on a 925 board? Yay for slow performance!

DITTO

errrrhhmmmmm..... only Kanavit :rolleyes:
06-24-2004, 03:10 AM
enzoR

Quote:

Originally posted by OC Detective
What price Intel subsequently puts the squeeze on Asus and Abit not to override the lock? After all they have enough muscle to threaten to not supply them with the chipsets....

the day they do that is the day intel will die.
06-24-2004, 03:57 AM
cpulloverclock

http://www.x86-secret.com/?option=newsd&nid=764 --> translator

there isnt an overclocking protection..

THG is stupid and there is a problem with the asus board about the throttle
06-24-2004, 04:09 AM
bias_hjorth

same but in "english": http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...3D764&lp=fr_en

anyway g8 news that is.. a typical THG?

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