Kunaak have you tried a pencil?
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Kunaak have you tried a pencil?
I just use rear window defogger kit for everything. Its like a paint and while it would be hard to get real fine... you dont need to. You do the best you can and scrape the rest away. I've gotten 4 or 5 uses so far for my little $7 jar... always handy. My ol' palomino is still unlocked and remember this is five bridges so buried under a heatsink (or other ;) ) you needn't worry of it coming off.
Well the fact that I tried twice with no success and OPP has yet to post back saying that the 4 pipes came back leads me to believe that somebody is keeping secrets, or this whole thing is BS.
Guess I'll just keep digging until the truth is found!
I am dying to try this but i cannot find a conductive pen or a rear window defogging kit anywhere locally. Is there any other method that might work? say possible a small drop of solder???
Would they sell a conductive pen at Autozone? I'm most definitly sure they will sell the rear window defogging kit there.
There are conductive paints, but the ink is faster drying. The paint may be better if it is thinner because we are working in a very small area here.
OPP,
Did you see the quote from lilgator of Chris_Uk (another guy who claims success) that said you need to scrape the copper in the middle and connect all three pads. This is inconsistant with what I have read from him directly and the other guys who have supposedly been successful performing this mod.
Any possibility that this is what caused the mod to not work for us or did you only connect the two pads when you had your card at 16 pipes temporarily?
I went to autozone and advanced auto.... neither had the kit. and radioshack doesnt have the pen. Im thinking maybe a small drop of solder.....If i cant find something this weekend i will try it. Unless someone tells me its a bad idea.Quote:
Originally posted by NeGe0
Would they sell a conductive pen at Autozone? I'm most definitly sure they will sell the rear window defogging kit there.
You obviously have not seen your GPU without the HSF on it except in these blown up photos. Soldering is out of the question! Ink or paint is the only way.Quote:
Originally posted by piercedandtatto
I went to autozone and advanced auto.... neither had the kit. and radioshack doesnt have the pen. Im thinking maybe a small drop of solder.....If i cant find something this weekend i will try it. Unless someone tells me its a bad idea.
It's probably like the 9500/9800SE where some have all pipes A OK and can be modded and some have defects that cannot be overcome.
I wonder what the percentage pass/fail is ?
Regards
Andy
You might be right. One interesting thing to note is the fact that 1 guy from Korea and 2 guys from UK are the only successes so far. I know of 11 people who have attempted the mod in the US and all have failed. Perhaps they sent us the duds!:(Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
It's probably like the 9500/9800SE where some have all pipes A OK and can be modded and some have defects that cannot be overcome.
I wonder what the percentage pass/fail is ?
Regards
Andy
wow, that would suck
Interesting, all the successes were Sapphire, and all the failures I know about are ATI retail box. You don't suppose????
Any Yanks out there with a Sapphire?
Hmm.... You know he is on to some thing here. I wouldnt doubt that Saphire is "allowing their card to be moddable"
Or, just that ATI is being more stringent about the cores. Saving the good ones for the XT release. The other vendors may have been using good cores just to get the pro version to market, which is why I asked about card maker and date bought. Some of the early ATI's may also mod.
it has nothing to do with the cores, it has to do with wether the pipes are there on the PCB, its possible the ATi cards only have 12 pipes, or have 4 physically disabled (as in cut)Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Or, just that ATI is being more stringent about the cores. Saving the good ones for the XT release. The other vendors may have been using good cores just to get the pro version to market, which is why I asked about card maker and date bought. Some of the early ATI's may also mod.
They are on the chip, this doesnt have anything to do with the PCB.
Either this works for all cards or this is BS.
Since Opp had them working at one point, I am inclined to believe this is not BS, just extremely hard to do.
As to soldering.. I soldered a duron 800 for fun ;)
a pencil to do the 16 pipeline mod??Quote:
Originally posted by andyddr
Kunaak have you tried a pencil?
no never thought of that.
I will try it later tonight.
on a side note, anyone wanting a conductive ink pen, www.aquastealth.com has them for $17, not cheap, but they have them.
These things are not exactly Durons.Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
They are on the chip, this doesnt have anything to do with the PCB.
Either this works for all cards or this is BS.
Since Opp had them working at one point, I am inclined to believe this is not BS, just extremely hard to do.
As to soldering.. I soldered a duron 800 for fun ;)
OPP never had it working. A couple of times when he booted with no driver loaded ATI tool recognized 16 pipes. Both times upon loading the drivers it went back to 12. Not quite working.
You are correct that it is very difficult, but I believe Fugger and ATi when they say not all of the cores will be able to be modded. Also, do you know what the chances are of having 11 out of 11 faliures of the same make card and 3 out of 3 successes of another at random? Astronomical.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but this just isn't happening. Is it worth losing your warranty (100% certainty there) for the minute possibility of being able to save 100 bucks? I say not.:)
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Originally posted by StormPC
Is it worth losing your warranty (100% certainty there) for the minute possibility of being able to save 100 bucks? I say not.:)
amen...........
if that is the case,it is certainly a very smart marketing strategy....Quote:
Originally posted by morbidj
Hmm.... You know he is on to some thing here. I wouldnt doubt that Saphire is "allowing their card to be moddable"
I don't think many people here at XS care about warranties :D It's not about saving $100 either. For me, it's just the excitement and fun of doing such a "mod" and being able to get my hardware to perform beyod the manufacturers specifications......Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Is it worth losing your warranty (100% certainty there) for the minute possibility of being able to save 100 bucks? I say not.:) [/B]
I have an ATI x800Pro and will be trying this mod myself early next week. I have gotten my core and memory to 564/594 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2570986)so I don't think frequencies will be an issue. This was on stock cooling too with no vmods. I'll just have to see if I can get the card to act like an XT now.... :D :D :D
You know, I don't think I've ever used a warranty. Ever. :rolleyes: LOL
I give up on this mod, no luck:D
I'll just wait for the XT to come out and then get one.
OPP
Warranty? What is that?
Damn OPP, oh well. Seems like everyone with a BBA card is SOL on this 1. Maybe someone will figure out why the BBA are being stubborn, after all, aren't the BBA cards made on the same assembly line as the Sapphire's???Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I give up on this mod, no luck:D
I'll just wait for the XT to come out and then get one.
OPP