I see alot OEMs will start to head this route. I really like my H50, but I will pass on the H70.
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I see alot OEMs will start to head this route. I really like my H50, but I will pass on the H70.
+1. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
I was totally thinking twice if I should post this two days ago, but decided
against not to be pronounced as hater :rolleyes:
So if someone's not falling for the marketing bull he automatically a hater. :) That a very isheep type of attitude. And to be brutally honest beside memory and very expensive cases Cosair has yet to achieve an icon status. Rebranding Seasonic psus, and tweaking Aseteks isn't really ground breaking.
Icon status? Corsair already has the best PSU lineup if you take in mind performance/price. Can you name a PSU that is over the HX750 or HX850 line in both performance and price? Nope, you can't.
Cheap doesn't equal better. Of course a CWT based power supply is almost anytime going to be cheaper than an equivalent Seasonic one. That doesn't mean it's as good. :)
I know people who couldn't get a system to run some mild oc-ing on a 650HX but had absolutely no trouble doing the same on a Seasonic based PC Power & Cooling 610w Silencer.
maybe they should RMA it,
650W is excessive for anything "mild", i would believe the motherboard would be more to blame than the psu with that kind of stability. there should be almost no vdroop with a "mild" overclock
with 2 gpus and a heavy cpu overclock, i never break 500W
i believe corsair makes good quality parts, and they take time to get involved with the community. do you think the beards would show up if all they did was steal money?
Dude, been there, done that :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by halfwaythere
Last year when I tried to convince the peeps that they are
not watercooling in comparison with me and probably half of the community here,
they said I was trolling and hating because I didn't use one. :rofl::yepp:
Neither I would, especially for the price they are asking for it.
I can both second that and wonder how is that possible. I'm not mild either :DQuote:
Originally Posted by halfwaythere
My TX650 is rebranded Seasonic though.
When PCP&C made a PSU, the wattage rating wasn't really it's peak, it could output that amount for hours. You can't really compare other PSU's to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erklat
Neither does Seasonic or Corsir. Most quality manufactures use the RMS rating on the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
I was actually refering to the HX650 as I thought it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
rebranded Seasonic.
Though I stopped taking interest what's under the hood when
I bought mine some 2yrs ago, so I don't actually have a clue
about a new lineups. Except AX1200, now I'm compeled to take
interest again :D
Seasonic is the supplier of the HX650.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erklat
It's more than "rebranded", though.
I must say i was a bit worried about H50 performance in the summer, but with no reason, it has delivered, i'm even more impressed now, i will pick up the H70 more soon then later.
Very little review..
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/rev..._system_review
I think I would rather get a Asetek 570LX (see pic below)
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3498/lclc240.jpg
I thought Corsair would of offered a 240 mm radiator as a option by now.
While that may be true, you can also have the Clutter of a real watercooling setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
The H50/70 is watercooling simplified and downsized nothing more, takes about 10 mins to install and takes up far less space as well and keeping socket area "clean", quieter than comparable aircooling required to match clocks.....etc etc....when you can do that with a real setup let us all know ;)
As far as PSU's go I have a 850HX and a turbocool 860, and you know what, I will bench with the HX850 over my turbocool 860 on ln2 anyday ;)
Most people looking at the H70 are probably short on space, although the option would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakebite1969
+1 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Wow, that's like one of the worst cooler reviews I've ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPQY
^the fact the stock cooler is at 89C (still around safe for intel chips) shows they didnt push in enough heat to even take use of buying a new cooler.
Actually, you can compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
Granted, years ago PCP&C sold very good power supplies, but they were not built by them, as we and you know.
Sparkle was the first OEM for the Silencers followed by Seasonic. Turbo Cools were essentially off-the-shelf Win-Tact server power supplies....
And as for the Silencers, they were massaged units based on Seasonic's own OEM designs, almost no differences were in the actual power supply. True, the PCP&C units had tighter ripple/noise generation and a little better voltage regulation, but that was easily accomplished with a change in a few capacitor choices and a different transistor choice or two, tighter wound coils, etc.
For instance, there's a reason the Seasonic M12D and the PCP&C Silencer 910 (an excellent pair of power supplies and both will run at rated output for hours....) are remarkably identical internally.
Both use four FDP18N50's plus two diodes for the PFC, and two GR125P's in double forward for the main switchers on the primary side.
Both use two bridge rectifiers--two GBU806's in parallel.
The transistor difference between the two is the Seasonic uses eight 30A50CT Schottky's in parallel for the 12V secondary parts while the Silencer uses gets eight 40S45CT Schottky's in parallel for the 12V secondary parts. (Slightly higher 12V output required the change.)
But the underlying power supply is a Seasonic M12D.....the vast majority of the Silencer is identical to the M12D; the same PCB, the same combination PWM/PFC controller, a CM6802BHG.
As for PCB's....betcha can't tell the difference between the Seasonic's M12D PCB and the Silencer 910's........
Here they are without heatsinks attached--->
(which is which?)
http://jamayer.org/pics/computer/DSCF1391.jpg
http://jamayer.org/pics/computer/DSCF0236.jpg
Darned near a mirror image of one another, aren't they? And why shouldn't they be? Seasonic built both and both are M12D based power supplies, plain and simple.
51dba in quite mode is really loud. I was expecting to be little quieter than that.
I also remember they've tested the Hyper 212+ to be cooler than the D14:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
HAHAHAHAAAAAA sorry i just cant laughing, when did corsair become a huge supplier of p reassembled :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty water cooling systems? I haven't been around for a while, but when i left they had a few things like this going for 120, I did buy one, im not gonna lie, some arctic freeze something, ended up taking it apart learned how it worked, pretty much common sense, and then ordered a 50 dollar TDX from danger den, a 25 dollar radiator of my size choosing from advanced auto parts, and a 15 dollar pump from Petsmart, and then i bought 1/2 id tubing and hose clamps, came to like 105 or something with tax, but i did a lot of modding, won a few mod contests here and there, and still have everything working to the max. If your going to browse these forums id think you want to get out there and do :banana::banana::banana::banana: yourself than to buy something half ass already made for you. idk just my 2 cents.
when you have the space to mod and dont mind spending a few hours getting all the parts together and building it yourself, yes its cheaper.
but if you tried to pull that off on someone elses computer, guess what, in 6 months there gonna ask why it blew up. cause your hoses evaporate water, and gunk is building up due to a mixture of bad chemicals that needs to be replaced often. and they ended up frying their motherboard taking care of those 2 things
convince and size does have a cost, theres a reason you can find it at best buy, cause its an idiot proof system thats been very well designed