AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition & 1055T launch on 4/27

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03-21-2010, 08:01 PM
mindfury

i7 860 cost much more than $200....nearly $300
03-21-2010, 08:04 PM
Firestrider

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Originally Posted by mindfury

i7 860 cost much more than $200....nearly $300

Not at Microcenter: http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0317378
03-21-2010, 08:11 PM
mindfury

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Originally Posted by Firestrider

Not at MC: http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0317378

:shrug:
It is just temporary sales promotion,doesn't make any sense.

All other sites list i7 860 more than $250
03-21-2010, 08:12 PM
Tom128

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Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

I want a processor that allows me to play at 120fps constant with all the eye candy turned on.

Not happening regardless of who makes your CPU. There is no game that a Phenom II at 3.5Ghz+ will not be able to feed a graphics setup it's frames, the graphics will bottleneck well before the Phenom II. Intel's i5's and i7's are better processors absolutely, but being 50% or 500% above the graphics system bottleneck is a tie in terms of your goal.
03-21-2010, 09:07 PM
STaRGaZeR

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Originally Posted by Tom128

Not happening regardless of who makes your CPU. There is no game that a Phenom II at 3.5Ghz+ will not be able to feed a graphics setup it's frames, the graphics will bottleneck well before the Phenom II. Intel's i5's and i7's are better processors absolutely, but being 50% or 500% above the graphics system bottleneck is a tie in terms of your goal.

While my i5 doesn't give me that in the games I play, it's still much closer than a C2Q at 4GHz, and since PhII is at best a little faster than a C2Q at the same clocks results are similar. Read my previous posts. A 5850 is not the bottleneck at 1680x1050+AA in most games except some uber new, bad optimized console ports. FEAR, TF2, Trackmania, Assassin's Creed, GRID to name a few, they all suffer the same issue: the CPU dictates minFPS. All of them improved a lot with the C2Q-->i5 change, same clocks.

BTW, there are dozens out there but in this very thread users have posted reviews with 5970s and such, and the CPU played a big role until you reach a certain frequency where the bottleneck is again the GPU. PhII still needs a lot more MHz to be competitive.

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Originally Posted by freeloader

Could you please explain to me what a CPU limited game is these days?
You must be an exception to the norm as far as game play goes. If I don't have a FPS counter on the screen, I can't tell the difference between 80 or 100 or 120 FPS.

Read above, and also the 120Hz monitor part in the post you quoted :P

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Originally Posted by snoro

Also stargazer go read back 1 or 2 time more beepbeep2 post. You missed quite an important points, none of those review said they jacked up the nb frequency which can help if i read well some stuff in the amd section the gpu performance and also cpu performance as well ( not sure on that). while every i7 or i5 review all have the uncore jacked up by default when overclocking if they use some high frequency memory kit.

And yeah for the moment, i am a core i5 user.

I didn't miss them, I know PhII is faster than C2Q with the NB jacked up, but still i5/i7 are far ahead in per core perfomance unfortunately, and that's what matters today if you game.

Back on topic, if AMD releases a lower clocked Thuban, at what price? PhII X4 965 is at ~145€ :eek:
03-21-2010, 09:20 PM
haylui

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Originally Posted by Macadamia

Meh, not counting on it. Damn Singaporean retailers will inflate the price for 2 months as it's an "enthusiast" product. And watch those people HUAT AR.

Might be better off buying in Malaysia this time, probably close/less than MSRP.

eh...bro don't know you're come from SG
me is in SG now
ya
you're right, SG retailers are slower even slower than Malaysia
03-21-2010, 09:34 PM
natty

quick question.... how much faster is i5/i7 clock-for-clock than core2quad?
03-21-2010, 09:53 PM
Miksu

Do we have any official info about the supported motherboards?
03-21-2010, 10:05 PM
Firestrider

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Originally Posted by natty

quick question.... how much faster is i5/i7 clock-for-clock than core2quad?

Check here: http://www.hwbox.gr/reviews/3253-qua...ock-clock.html

I think it is around 15% with HT off
03-21-2010, 10:46 PM
onethreehill

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Originally Posted by Bahrain based etailer, Advanti

We just received the official prices from AMD:
Phenom II X6 Six Core
1090T Black Edition: 125(W), AM3 Socket, 9MB Cache, 3.2 GHz Freq @ 295 USD
1055T: 125(W), AM3 Socket, 9MB Cache, 2.8 GHz Freq @ 199 USD

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=16214
03-21-2010, 10:50 PM
Monkeywoman

1090T in my next build
03-21-2010, 11:02 PM
vitchilo

And is the Phenom X6 supposed to have the same performance as an Opteron 6 cores at the same frequency? If so I might buy a 2X 8 cores Opterons...
03-21-2010, 11:05 PM
ajaidev

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Originally Posted by onethreehill

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=16214

Aaa thats good prices right there.... very good indeeeed

Thanks adrianlee :up:
03-21-2010, 11:11 PM
BakerT

Good price indeed. Think I might get one.
03-21-2010, 11:20 PM
crazydiamond

omg $300 launch price would be sick,, the price/performance will be crazy. definately need dual cpu enthusiast board!
03-21-2010, 11:30 PM
tool_462

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Originally Posted by crazydiamond

omg $300 launch price would be sick,, the price/performance will be crazy. Definately need dual cpu enthusiast board!

+350
03-21-2010, 11:40 PM
ajaidev

If the prices are true 1055T for $199, you could get 5 * 6 cores = 30 cores from AMD or get 1 * 6 cores = 6 cores from Intel "i7 980x" lol
03-21-2010, 11:42 PM
insurgent

A question, are the black editions only sensible for those shooting for extremely high OCs?
03-21-2010, 11:52 PM
ajaidev

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Originally Posted by insurgent

A question, are the black editions only sensible for those shooting for extremely high OCs?

Its useful for all, by changing the multi you can stress the cpu more but if you change the system freq the whole system will be stressed.
03-21-2010, 11:53 PM
geo

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Originally Posted by insurgent

A question, are the black editions only sensible for those shooting for extremely high OCs?

anyone ?

6 cores at $199 = cheap workstation CPU
03-21-2010, 11:59 PM
Firestrider

at $199 the 1055T is definitely going to beat the i5 750... I hope these prices are true
03-22-2010, 12:04 AM
..::G80::..

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

omg $300 launch price would be sick,, the price/performance will be crazy. definately need dual cpu enthusiast board!

Yeah! Dual AM3 board will be nice.:D
03-22-2010, 12:04 AM
insurgent

@ajaidev

thanks, but the 1055T looks very promising if it's 200, i'll have to browse on amd overclocking :)
03-22-2010, 12:15 AM
Opteron146

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Originally Posted by ajaidev

If the prices are true 1055T for $199,

The prices are true, they fit to the European prices posted on page 1.
However, you may have to add your local VAT.
03-22-2010, 12:16 AM
Opteron146

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Originally Posted by Miksu

Do we have any official info about the supported motherboards?

Any AM2(+) Board with updated BIOS ... ask your mainboard manufacturer for it.
Gigabyte already updated several BIOSes.

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