Swiftech unveils Apogee XT new flagship waterblock

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10-07-2009, 10:58 AM
Aphellyon

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Originally Posted by millertime359

Cheating on the wife with the water block again hey. :p:

Heh, I wouldn't consider look'n at pr0n cheating... :D

Seriously though, great looking block. I just got my GTZ (discounted) but haven't installed it yet... now I'm mulling over an XT "instant upgrade". :)
10-07-2009, 12:37 PM
gabe

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Originally Posted by Diverge

A question for Gabe, since swiftech cpu blocks always show 1 way to mount them.

If the die under the IHS is symmetrical, then shouldn't mounting it 180 deg from how shown in the pictures be the same?

I just always wondered this, since it makes no sense to me, being only 1 way. Unless I am not thinking of something.

yes you can mount 180 degrees. there are two sides with 3 screws. as long as one 3-screw side is adjacent and parallel to locking lever, its fine.

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Originally Posted by Vapor

As far as I can tell, you can use 3/4" OD compressions just fine if you turn the inlet plate around :)

correct

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Originally Posted by Mech0z

Is this also optimized for unlapped cpus as well? (Meaning HK3.0 will outperfom it on lapped cpu?)

YES. I didn't put that on the web page because it really is too extrme, but we tweaked the retention to compensate for lapped CPU's. Live and learn!!!

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Originally Posted by WaterFlex

Wow ! Gabe, how do u think, will this new block be effective with upcoming i9 ? Extremely nice looking block!

I expect it to be, but who knows? until we test, we really can't tell.

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Originally Posted by emir

Another nice one.
Looks a bit like my block design :)

sure does. very good job with your design :up:

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Originally Posted by nikhsub1

Most modern blocks perform differently when oriented differently. The difference is, Swiftech is TELLING you which way to do it for best performance while other manufacturers are NOT. You don't have to listen to the instructions and you will just get lesser performance, the choice is yours.

*ninja edit*

Unless there is a limitation with the block where it can NOT seat properly on the socket if oriented not as directed.

TELLING: yes, you are 100% correct. thanks for clarifying. there are no mechanical limitations in terms of install orientation. Just piss-poor performance (relatively speaking).
10-07-2009, 12:40 PM
alacheesu

Looks like an awesome block.
10-07-2009, 01:00 PM
JoeBar

Gabe u're the man! :clap:

Eagerly waiting for more tests, although pretty certain u have on more future buyer here. Great work as always... :up:
10-07-2009, 01:12 PM
Salamndar

Is there a possibility that swiftech make different colors for these water blocks?
10-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Sadasius

It looks so industrial. It's exactly what I have been looking for! :yepp:
10-07-2009, 01:48 PM
gabe

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Originally Posted by aoch88

1. If you have specific inlet/outlet and then have specific ways to mount the block (with the 3 screws on the same location with the CPU lock lever), it just means there's no change we can mount it the way we want. Assuming if I want my tubings to go in from another way, I can no longer do it with this block.
2. It looks like this is very much the same like the GTZ except for some cosmetic differences on the top. Also to be honest, I moved from Apogee GT to GTZ with little or no improvements. I'd be happy if Swiftech makes a product that enables us to mount whichever direction that we want and/or at least give a reasonable improvements in temps or it doesn't justify an upgrade at all.

other than: the overal shape of the bracket, which is pretty dictated by the mount pattern, the size of the invidual pin in the pin matrix, the material of the base (copper), and the inlet/outlet thread class (1-4" BSPP) everything else is actually different.

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Originally Posted by aoch88

If it is only a recommendation then Swiftech should specify it correctly instead of saying "MUST BE PARALLEL" (like shown on the image diagram. From what I understand with that sentence, we must mount it in such a way or it'll either not function totally or performance would be seriously terrible.

MUST instead of RECOMMEND: most people who buy an $80 waterblock expect the absolute best performance. If they want this performance, then they MUST follow our installation instructions. Otherwise, why buying an $80 block? Just buy an Apogee GT for $39.95!
10-07-2009, 01:53 PM
gabe

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Originally Posted by Salamndar

Is there a possibility that swiftech make different colors for these water blocks?

yes, there is always a possibility.
10-07-2009, 01:57 PM
JoeBar

Other than pure CU, brass and derlin, nothing else allowed for swiftech m8... :D

A professional block should always look like one... ;)
10-07-2009, 02:42 PM
zeroibis

Very nice also it is good to hear that it works with compression!
10-07-2009, 05:30 PM
overclocking101

nice! gotta get me one of these for my waterblock roundup i just started! w00T
10-07-2009, 06:06 PM
EvilClocker

Gabe, do you have firm date for the Core I5 Bracket ? and IS it always going to be optional ?
10-07-2009, 06:43 PM
gabe

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Originally Posted by EvilClocker

Gabe, do you have firm date for the Core I5 Bracket ? and IS it always going to be optional ?

ETA in the US is ~October 15. There is never anything firm until the product is finished, QC'd, shipped, and arrived in stock ;-)

The 1156 bracket is NOT optional. it is included with the XT. It just wasn't ready yet, and we did not want to delay release of the XT for another 2 weeks for a bracket used in a CPU that was just introduced on the market and not yet in super high demand. As clearly indicated on our site, we will mail the bracket upon request for those customers purchasing the first batch of XT's shipped without the bracket. After that, we'll be bundling both bracket in the box.
10-07-2009, 06:59 PM
anzial

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

Other than pure CU, brass and derlin, nothing else allowed for swiftech m8... :D

A professional block should always look like one... ;)

I vaguely recall that one of the Apogees had an aluminum top in the past :)
10-07-2009, 07:08 PM
Waterlogged

GET EM WHILE THEY'RE HOT! :lol2:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/97...156_1366_.html

gabe, Any idea on when you might get the DDC 3.x5 into retailers hands?
10-07-2009, 07:10 PM
millertime359

9 left, they'll be long gone by morning.
10-07-2009, 07:11 PM
skinnee

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

gabe, Any idea on when you might get the DDC 3.x5 into retailers hands?

:ROTF:

But a good question though, when are the MCP355's going to be updated to the DDC 3.25's?
10-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Waterlogged

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Originally Posted by skinnee

:ROTF:

But a good question though, when are the MCP355's going to be updated to the DDC 3.25's?

Actually, I'm looking to get my hands on some 3.15's and mod them. :D I'm just way too cheap to buy Koolances or DD's 3.25's.

It'd actually be nice if the 3.x5's came out as a different number, say. . .360 & 365 respectively. It'd be easier for ppl to tell the difference.
10-08-2009, 12:22 AM
nsx241

God dammit, I was just about to pull the trigger on a heatkiller. Now I'll have to wait.
10-08-2009, 02:06 AM
KRich

I was going to go for the Heatkiller but think I will wait for this now :D It looks amazing :up:

Any idea whether the S775 backplate which came with the Apogee GTX/GTZ will work with the Apogee XT too please?

Cheers :up:
10-08-2009, 04:13 AM
Salamndar

I really like the idea of a one water block for most platforms!

Good Job Swiftech! :up:
10-08-2009, 08:43 AM
avddreamr

Even if it wasn't battling for the crown of best performing i7 block, it definitely wins on pure aesthetics. I knew there was a point to holding off on upgrading my fuzion.
10-08-2009, 09:28 AM
Ketzer7

Took the plunge and just bought mine from FCPU a little bit ago. Looking forward to it. :up:

Gabe, any reason there might be a problem having the hold-down bracket powder coated? I love everything about the new block except the shiny hold-down plate, so was thinking of having it powder coated black with a couple other pieces to have it match. Thanks.
10-08-2009, 09:41 AM
gabe

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

GET EM WHILE THEY'RE HOT! :lol2:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/97...156_1366_.html

gabe, Any idea on when you might get the DDC 3.x5 into retailers hands?

have to work on that. it's next on agenda.

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Originally Posted by KRich

I was going to go for the Heatkiller but think I will wait for this now :D It looks amazing :up:

Any idea whether the S775 backplate which came with the Apogee GTX/GTZ will work with the Apogee XT too please?

Cheers :up:

absolutely. they are the same.

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Originally Posted by Ketzer7

Took the plunge and just bought mine from FCPU a little bit ago. Looking forward to it. :up:

Gabe, any reason there might be a problem having the hold-down bracket powder coated? I love everything about the new block except the shiny hold-down plate, so was thinking of having it powder coated black with a couple other pieces to have it match. Thanks.

working on that too :-)
10-08-2009, 09:48 AM
Ketzer7

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Originally Posted by gabe

working on that too :-)

:eek: Oh, so in that case I should just hold out then for a new black hold-down plate I take it :) Probably too early to ask, but any idea how far out that is?

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