I would probably be interested in a few. As long as you guys use stainless steel for the hose, not PTFE.
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I would probably be interested in a few. As long as you guys use stainless steel for the hose, not PTFE.
Bud i have stainless tubing also in use..not just the rubber or ptfe hose..i use it all..my cascade has the stainless tube...i have found a good souce on it.prefitted with the right fitting already flared to the tubing.Quote:
Originally posted by DaBit
I would probably be interested in a few. As long as you guys use stainless steel for the hose, not PTFE.
it just doenst have the flex for 90% of the people who would buy it.right now i am having trouble bending mine tight enough to run the gpu on my dual evap cascade...
but you will be able to buy it any way you wish in the next couple of weeks i would guess.
Well
I may be interested too in a assembled block :D
Dabit, maybe we can arrange something with the shipping (airmail sure costs a lot, but this will save some money, and i'm sure that more guys are interested here).
Epsilon: sure. Though USPS is not that expensive, especially not when compared to UPS/DHL/whatever... (looking with my nicest face to Bowman.... :D )
Getting that stuff premade would save me some headaches. I have already done it, so I know I can do it myself. So the urge to trouble myself more than necessary is over :)
what do you need:stick: :DQuote:
Originally posted by DaBit
Epsilon: sure. Though USPS is not that expensive, especially not when compared to UPS/DHL/whatever... (looking with my nicest face to Bowman.... :D )
Getting that stuff premade would save me some headaches. I have already done it, so I know I can do it myself. So the urge to trouble myself more than necessary is over :)
I'm not in desperate need of something, but for the next project a Baker CPU block would probably be nice, and another Baker block for modding a prommie. Though I still have to investigate the bakerblock's suitability for my next project; internal volume might be too low.
I'll see if we can batch a few blocks; that's only one time the hassle for you.
well i dont mind helping you if i can...since i have a few baker blocks...me and baker exchange products you might say from time to time.Quote:
Originally posted by DaBit
I'm not in desperate need of something, but for the next project a Baker CPU block would probably be nice, and another Baker block for modding a prommie. Though I still have to investigate the bakerblock's suitability for my next project; internal volume might be too low.
I'll see if we can batch a few blocks; that's only one time the hassle for you.
just pm me when you are ready,and if need be i can get what ever you need from baker....baker blocks around the world...i like that:D
Well, shipping to holland ins't very expensive.
But 50euro (of course by plane ;)) for a few blocks (4-5) is possible.
Well, we'll get in contact ;)
edit:
Bowman, i have a question
Is it possible to fit the blocks with 90c angles on it (for GPU use). and then put the RVS hose on it ?
You can just replace the connector with a 90 but you must insert the cap tube before brazing.Quote:
Originally posted by Epsilon
Well, shipping to holland ins't very expensive.
But 50euro (of course by plane ;)) for a few blocks (4-5) is possible.
Well, we'll get in contact ;)
edit:
Bowman, i have a question
Is it possible to fit the blocks with 90c angles on it (for GPU use). and then put the RVS hose on it ?
baker18
Will i be able to braze the connector with a propane torch (no oxy).
Tnx
Hmm, a regular propane torch will be a problem.
But hey, it takes me a minute to braze in the connector. So why bother?
Epsilon & DaBit
I'm sure that a lot of Belgium enthousiasts also want to order a few. Maybe it could be interesting to buy them all together. That way we can split the shipping costs and save a lot on shipping.
I wouldn't even mind to bring them to holland if it isn't to far from the Belgium border (+/-150 km).
It's just a tought.
well
i live in Tilburg
Just 20km over the border ;)
I can travel by train to dabit (oss)
Dabit : tnx in advance ;)
ns_ripper:
Sound like a good plan.
BTW: the offer for Epsilon is also valid for you. I don't mind brazing up a few evaps if you lack the required torch. If it is more than a few I might consider sharing oxygen/brazing rod cost, but that won't be much either.
I might be interested too, but I have no expirience whatsoever with phase-change...
Sure, I've been reading, but there's still a world of difference between theory and practics...
I'll probably be cooling my cpu (and gpu?)
I know DaBit has the skills (from what I've read at phase-change.com)
Greetz,
Wimpie007
Brazing up my evap:
The evaps before brazing. I pushed some copper wire between the gaps to make sure that the gaps are at least leak-free after brazing.
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...b&quality=high
The next thing I did was to put the evap on a Coleman unleaded fuel stove, and apply the protection gas to prevent oxidation of the inside. In my case, this was regular butane from a lighter gas bottle. I lit the butane to check the flow and to prevent buildup.
I also put some loose flux on top of the evap. If it melts and looks like glass, the brazing temperature is almost reached.
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...0&quality=high
I lit the stove in advance, but the copper block pulls away so much heat from the fuel evaporator that the flames turned yellow again. Well, I didn't bother since the evap needs cleaning badly after brazing anyway.
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...3&quality=high
Brazing up the evap. The stove provides global heating; I used the oxy/fuel torch to supply local heat and make the brazing filler flow
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...d&quality=high
After the evap had cooled down (still under protection gas supply), I checked if the gas did it's job. Oh yes, it did. The inside is virgin copper now. Butane has a reducing effect; any copper oxide will give up it's oxygen atom(s) under heat. This oxygen reacts with the butane to carbon dioxide and water, removing the oxygen from the inside.
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...7&quality=high
Lengthening the captube. I did this by drilling out the captube going to the block, enlarging it by swivelling a drill bit inside, and pushing the other captube in. Brazing is difficult, apply enough heat to _just_ flow the filler metal, not more.
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...2&quality=high
The next thing I did was mounting some very flexible corrugated stainless steel hose (10mm I.D., which is somewhat more than 3/8"). Here is a detail image:
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...d&quality=high
And brazed onto the evap:
http://www.icecoldcomputing.com/gene...a&quality=high
That's it for today :)
very nice dude ;)
Oh, and I forgot to say: wear safety glasses, and be sure to have a fire extinguisher or basket with water and a soaked towel next to the setup. Water alone won't extinguish oil and fuel. A soaked towel will.
The basket also comes in handy when you burn your fingers :mad:
Nice guide and detailed pics!
Nice guide, too bad non of the aussie hardware stores i've been to stock brazing gear.
u havent looked hard enough
even §§§§ty holes like Bunnings has Mapp gas torches
I got mine Bernzomatic torch for 79.95..
Yer i bought one now, now just need vaccum pump n' §§§§. FIll gagues.
Okay,
I have to ask now. When is the Baker Block including the insulation cover going to be released now?:slobber: I've been waiting so long now and everytime it's said to be available it just isn't for another couple of weeks.
How much will it be? And does it fit on upcoming Socket 755 and AMD Sockel 939 boards as well?
I know good work needs a while and I highly appreciate the awesome work you guys are putting into it to make it professional and available for all of us, but an official statement to its availability and properties by Baker would be very helpful for planning!
Hope you understand!
Bestregards,
Freezer :toast:
Bowman:
What happens to the inside when you heat it like that? Theres no need to put nitrogen or something similar inside when you braze it to prevent corrosion?
Or can that be fixed with some acid?