Intel X25-M G2: Previews & Reviews

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07-23-2009, 04:10 PM
Klarko

bring on the price wars! :D
07-23-2009, 04:12 PM
cegras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mech0z

The new NANDS are cheaper to produce aka lower price..

I was talking more about OCZ's reaction, and most likely other vendors who sell indilinx / samsung drives.
07-23-2009, 04:27 PM
lutjens

I think it's a pity they are holding back on releasing the 320GB drives...the empty flash memory slots on the PCB are just...wrong.
07-23-2009, 04:31 PM
oldsarge

G2's at Newegg tonight........................
07-23-2009, 05:02 PM
foch3 -USA-

Just bought one from newegg thanks!
07-23-2009, 05:03 PM
LiberalElephant

must.....resist.....
07-23-2009, 05:48 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by foch3 -USA-

Just bought one from newegg thanks!

I'm tired, of no one posting some Monkey Fightin' Links, on this Monday-to-Friday thread !!!!!!!!!

EDIT: Found It !! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016

Here's the Model no.: SSDSA2MH080G2C1

160GB now online: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167017

Perkam
07-23-2009, 05:52 PM
GoldenTiger

Thanks oldsarge, snapped up an 80GB to replace my SLC Samsung 64GB SSD... the extra space will be nice, and the 'egg had the Intel 80GB G2 for the $230 shipped price :D!

80gb G2 $229.99 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016

160gb G2 $449.99 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167017

If the formatted capacity matches the advertised one as was stated earlier, that's gravy.
07-23-2009, 05:56 PM
perkam

This is going to make OCZ crap its pants tomorrow morning.

Perkam
07-23-2009, 06:00 PM
Boogerlad

newegg.ca to the rescue. Destroying 60gb vertex in price and performance. Never bought from newegg though; are there still custom charges even if free shipping. Hopefully ncix will have em cheaper.
07-23-2009, 06:00 PM
GoldenTiger

I bet... the price/gb and performance bends their current offerings over backward :(... I had a 2x 60GB RAID 0 setup I was using that I sent off for return (non-defective) for a refund (gogo no restock fee, and no I didn't claim it was broken) that I had paid $440 shipped for. For a scant $10 more I could get the 160GB intel, or do what I'm doing and getting just the space I need (80GB intel, larger size than the 60 ocz) for the same price as one of the OCZ 60gb drives but have much better performance than that would have offered me. The 'Bay price for my original Samsung SLC that I was using before trying the OCZ's is around $350-370, so I'll actually profit off of this switch in every way.

Thanks Intel ;)!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogerlad

newegg.ca to the rescue. Destroying 60gb vertex in price and performance. Never bought from newegg though; are there still custom charges even if free shipping. Hopefully ncix will have em cheaper.

I believe Newegg has Canadian warehouses for newegg.ca, but don't quote me on that.
07-23-2009, 06:00 PM
nr2134

160GB on the way for my lappy. Takes a bit away from the engagement ring savings, but its worth it. She wont know. :D
07-23-2009, 06:01 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogerlad

newegg.ca to the rescue. Destroying 60gb vertex in price and performance. Never bought from newegg though; are there still custom charges even if free shipping. Hopefully ncix will have em cheaper.

There has never been customs from newegg.ca. They charge taxes + $1.
07-23-2009, 06:05 PM
sonofander

Might have to sell off my 250 gig vertex and pick up a pair of Intel 80 gigs
07-23-2009, 06:07 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowfat

There has never been customs from newegg.ca. They charge taxes + $1.

ooooh. I see someone's sig. SOMEONE should be crunching :sofa: :p:

Newegg.ca doesn't take any extra charges beyond what you get after you add it to cart and put in your postal code.

Also, the price will be higher in a month or so because the C$/USD$ rate is more favorable for Canada atm (its high 0.8ish, its usually low 0.8ish). So i'd grab it before the price jumps back up.

Perkam
07-23-2009, 06:32 PM
labs23

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1022/1/

Thirteen pages review. And what does it say?:D

"My SSD Rocks!" -the Intel sticker.
07-23-2009, 06:43 PM
Boogerlad

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowfat

There has never been customs from newegg.ca. They charge taxes + $1.

before I checked out a 4870, I got 68 dollars for shipping, so I didn't buy it. Shipping can't be that high, so I assumed it was those darn customs. Is free shipping really free?
07-23-2009, 06:57 PM
Firestrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by labs23

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1022/1/

Thirteen pages review. And what does it say?:D

"My SSD Rocks!" -the Intel sticker.

I wish reviewers would do some real world tests
07-23-2009, 07:17 PM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by labs23

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1022/1/

Thirteen pages review. And what does it say?:D

"My SSD Rocks!" -the Intel sticker.

Love the sticker!
07-23-2009, 07:31 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogerlad

before I checked out a 4870, I got 68 dollars for shipping, so I didn't buy it. Shipping can't be that high, so I assumed it was those darn customs. Is free shipping really free?

'handling' is taxes.
07-23-2009, 07:35 PM
labs23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestrider

I wish reviewers would do some real world tests

Same here. Real world test(s) are a bit time consuming and with a lil bit more hassle than synthetic benchmarks. But no doubt we'll see some real world tests pretty soon.

*Edit: Newegg's 80GB G2 are now out of stock.
07-23-2009, 07:41 PM
Boogerlad

thanks for the clarification lowfat!
07-23-2009, 08:01 PM
Dazog

Someone do a benchmark of a single 80 gig Drive vs 2 30 gig Vertex in RAID.

So I know if I need to switch :)
07-23-2009, 08:11 PM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klarko

bring on the price wars! :D

Oh yeah I want my $1/GB SSD:D

Come on all vendors of the world counter Intel and stop use SSDs as cashcows:rofl:
07-23-2009, 11:26 PM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by F0rr3sTT

this
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=11
is a nice feature, no?

I believe the only ssd listed above that does this is the summit

i don't wanna spread falsehood, someone please correct me if i'm wrong, or fill in details

EDIT: actually, i thought i remember reading on the ocz forum that in order for Summit to TRIM (right?) it should be left on but idle for ~12 hours, whereas the G2 appears to autocorrect even while HDTach is running.

yeah, that is a nice feature... thought its kinda funny to call it a feature, its more like this controller does things right while all other controllers are sortof in beta stage :D
i hope other controllers will implement this in some way or another soon...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levish

they will be higher initially I agree but the intel $/GB is better than Vertex
and to boot you get something that rules the roost at random reads/writes

its the new conroe of SSDs like it or not

how do you define conroe then?
1.) expensive and costing more than the competition
2.) winning in synthetic tests but roughly the same in real world perf
3.) no notable improvements over its predecessor in most scenarios

sorry but thats not what i remember conroe like...
conroe was offering amazing perf/$ amazing perf that blew amd out of the water and it outperformed anything netburst soooo badly that intel had to slow down conroe manufacturing on purpose so they could get rid of their netburst stock.

i dont see anything like that with theese ssds...
not even close...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKPolice

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=10010790

$230 retail for 80gb G2. Saaya, you are wrong. OOOOOOOOPS!

The only ssd that comes close to intel's performance are the barefoot based controllers + samsung ssd which costs around $220 for 64gb (formatted capacity is 60gb, whereas Intel's 80gb SSD is the formatted capacity). So at most you'll be paying an extra $20 for an extra 20GB + higher performance.

out of stock... if they keep the same price when they are back in stock thatll be very sweet! :D

in that case, yes, the g2 would be the drive to get, no doubt...
even then i wouldnt compare this to conroe though :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telperion

Yeah, OOOOPpps Intel's nets you 20 more GB at the same price point, with the exception of the Agility which is in a completely different performance market.

Stop being so arrogant and assuming I'm worshiping Anand's every word, I've been following SSDs for well over a year and I think I can draw my own conclusions without being fed them by a website.

sorry... your right...
i still dont see what the big hype over this is, they are slightly faster and cost about the same, before competitiors actually reacted to the prices...
i expected a lot more from intels 2nd gen ssds...
now that ocz and others are reacting to the prices you can get a 128gb drive over an intel g2 80gb drive for ~50$ extra, and if availability stays low and prices high, the intel g2 drive might actually cost the same as other 128gb drives for a while...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cegras

Anand's cost/GB chart is right. You are the one misrepresenting here ...

what you buy is an ssd, not gbs...
the $/mb price is great for vgas with double the memory compared to the ref design, and? that alone doesnt say a single thing about what product is better or costs less... what you buy is an ssd, and the cheapest ssd intel offers is the same price as competing drives... it doesnt matter what their price per gb is in that case...

and when you sort the infos properly youll notice intels price per gb isnt notably lower than that of others the higher the capacity gets. at 128/160 intel is at 2.75 and others are at around 3, thats barely a diference...

and now ocz and others are dropping their prices notably and intel is the most expensive once again...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogerlad

Where's sayaa? I think we scared him off.

lol :p: what would i be affraid of? to admit that i was wrong about some things i said? pfff what a loser would avoid admitting to have said something wrong? like anand when he praised intels 1st gen ssds as conroeing the competition and then dissapearing when people had formatting and corruption issues? gazzzzing! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Intel X25-M Gen 2 SSD Performance Review
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Inte...rmance-Review/

mhhhh... only synthetic tests, and the only real world related tests, pcmark vantage, actually shows the corsair p256 BEAT the new intel ssd...

whats up with all those synthetic tests, this really sucks...
those tests are mostly focussed on server perf afaik

Quote:

Originally Posted by labs23

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1022/1/

Thirteen pages review. And what does it say?:D

"My SSD Rocks!" -the Intel sticker.

and another pure synthetic test run... great... :/

@ everybody buying those new ssds right after launch...
i think your making a big mistake... they have just been released, ocz has already slashed their prices and by quite a bit, others will follow, and eventually intel will slash their prices as well...

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