Intel i7 975 first showing Mikeguava/FUGGER

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02-02-2009, 09:58 PM
003

Hey Fugger! How are you running 4-way crossfire on Windows XP?? I thought that was impossible??
02-02-2009, 10:00 PM
Vapor

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Originally Posted by 003

Hey Fugger! How are you running 4-way crossfire on Windows XP?? I thought that was impossible??

It's not XP....he's using 'Longhorn' drivers :)

Taskbar doesn't quite look like XP's anyway :p:
02-02-2009, 11:22 PM
threeply

:clap: Great record. How about Quad SLI GTX 295 or tri SLI GTX 285?

What type of memory did u use to get the record?

Should I wait for i920 D0 stepping before I take the plunge?
02-02-2009, 11:33 PM
Russian

Very sweet indeed. Keep up the good work guys!

I knew it was a matter of time until these badboys were unleashed.
02-03-2009, 12:54 AM
ward0

very nice done, nice WR aswell.
02-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Charles Wirth

Corsair Dominator 1866C8 wth pelt @ 2200Mhz cas 8
02-03-2009, 02:00 AM
v_parrello

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Originally Posted by dinos22

it's nothing against you charles or anyone else for that matter.

it's just not been the case (as far as i recall) that we are claiming W.R.s on unreleased hardware

you know about this as well as you went out of your way to point out to me in Taiwan that Intel SSD drives you were using for W.R.s in final stages of competition are readily available at newegg to purchase which is fair enough...not that i really saw that as an issue..... new gen CPU or GFX different story

i thought that GFX guys used to wait till NDA is up and it's official announced and out for this kinda of claim.....i guess CPU is the other important one here...rest who cares...... if sampsa posted and claimed a W.R. on a DDR3 based AMD CPU i would say the same thing

I totally agree with dinos22! :yepp:

1000 thanks to FUGGER and Mikeguava to share with us the big results and the power of i7 975 D0 :), but at the end imho this could not be considered as new WR. This is not a retail CPU and a lot of other guys that are good overclockers all over the world are out of this competition because of possibility to have one of this CPU sample.

I think it's time to establish some rules about this, for example that all WRs are possible only with retail component (that all people can buy and own) or something like this, otherwise the competition could no be so truthful.

Sorry guys but I have to say what I am thinking about this. :)
02-03-2009, 02:07 AM
shoehorned

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Originally Posted by v_parrello

I think it's time to establish some rules about this, for example that all WRs are possible only with retail component (that all people can buy and own) or something like this, otherwise the competition could no be so truthful.

Sorry guys but I have to say what I am thinking about this. :)

World records simply means the highest or lowest of something. It doesn't necessarily need to take everyone into account for qualifications. That's like saying Mr. Speedy Gonzales can't hold the world record for fastest lap because the guys in a wheelchair are not qualified to run.

Fugger, contrats :clap:
02-03-2009, 02:22 AM
dduckquack

damn that looks tasty
02-03-2009, 02:58 AM
v_parrello

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Originally Posted by shoehorned

World records simply means the highest or lowest of something. It doesn't necessarily need to take everyone into account for qualifications. That's like saying Mr. Speedy Gonzales can't hold the world record for fastest lap because the guys in a wheelchair are not qualified to run.

Fugger, contrats :clap:

Did you ever see a athletic race for a WR were a man challenge with Ferrari F1? :)
I think the aim of competition is to challenge with everybody with equal hardware. If you alone (or with other 3-4 guys all over the world) have a new sample CPU (more powerful then previous CPUs) this is a challenge between 3 o 4 people and is quite normal to obtain some WRs compared to old technology.

In cartoons with Mr. Speedy Gonzales everything is possible, if you think we are in a cartoon I totally agree with you. :) (sorry for my not so good humor :D).

...at the end is just my thoughts! :)

Sorry for OT, and thanks a lot to share this new technology. :)
02-03-2009, 03:17 AM
americium

WOW! This is amazing! Great work guys.

I read this at tcmagazine:

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Reported being planned for a late Q2 or early Q3 release, the Core i7 975 EE will likely be priced at $999

Can someone verify this? If true, this means launch is planned for June-July?
02-03-2009, 03:59 AM
gmeup

as far as this link goes the D0 stepping will have no changes to the current C0 i7's http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...11773&Itemid=1
02-03-2009, 04:59 AM
eXa

Auch, beat the P2 with alot and thats with 1ghz less... :p:
02-03-2009, 05:33 AM
n3wbi3

Well done Fugger :clap:

Can u confirm that the new stepping will work at those temps or u got a cherry picked cpu?

Got a cascade that idles at -110 and i really dont wanna buy a 965 that is cold bugged at -50.
02-03-2009, 05:46 AM
Barbarosso

Well Done
Extreme overclock respect
02-03-2009, 06:55 AM
1337633k

Nice!
02-03-2009, 07:04 AM
knissel

What in the world?! How you get these things?
02-03-2009, 07:37 AM
mike

Was a fun run with the Core I7 975. Crazy chip. The most impressive to me was our first boot at 0.975V and 4.6GHZ @ ~ 10C into Windows.
Not sure if we will see a clock for clock improvement from C0 to D0 in terms of efficiency,like it was from B0 to C0.

There is definetly more room in that CPU - Charles made sure to keep clocks within the same range of other top benching Core I7s. I have a C0 at the moment that can match the clocks we benched at. Kingpins C0 ran his a tiny bit higher.

@ Eva - we didn't run Windows 7 this time - but next run with C0 will be Win7

@ Sampsa - nice tease on the AM3 - that looks very promising especially for GT1 - any improvement there? BTW I heard a rumor that Team Finnland owns a CPU that can match these D0 clocks - doubt it will take to June to see the backups.
02-03-2009, 07:45 AM
Drwho?

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Originally Posted by v_parrello

I totally agree with dinos22! :yepp:

1000 thanks to FUGGER and Mikeguava to share with us the big results and the power of i7 975 D0 :), but at the end imho this could not be considered as new WR. This is not a retail CPU and a lot of other guys that are good overclockers all over the world are out of this competition because of possibility to have one of this CPU sample.

I think it's time to establish some rules about this, for example that all WRs are possible only with retail component (that all people can buy and own) or something like this, otherwise the competition could no be so truthful.

Sorry guys but I have to say what I am thinking about this. :)

I agree with Dyno too, Let's get both invalidated records ...

http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=12
AMD at the extreme system party was using "AMD Engineering Sample", nobody complained then, but it is samples too ...

what do you think?

Just kidding :-P

Francois
02-03-2009, 08:08 AM
VoodooProphetII

Well done guys.... That's one amazing score. Looking forward to see what else you guys come up with.

Congrats. Great stuff.
02-03-2009, 08:08 AM
fiveprime

I enjoy seeing WRs and the like, it's always cool seeing what kind of numbers that can be cranked out of these machines, but this is getting old. Its already bad enough with the access to hardware that the majority of the WR benchers have, but now to start using unreleased hardware, ESs, and then, worst of all, to go ahead and show unsportsmanlike like behavior about it? It would appear that both teams have or may have used questionable methods to obtain these benches, so in all fairness neither run really counts. Everyone expects F1 cars to be fast as hell, just as this type of hardware is expected to be fast as hell, so it is really no surprise when you see records come out of this hardware, it means relatively little to the average overclocker, what matters is what can be done with the chips that we can buy.
02-03-2009, 08:24 AM
fiveprime

F1 teams dont typically advertise their cars as production models, so why should intel/amd be able to claim a WR with a non production item? It dosnt have to be a closed competition, but it would seem most like to keep it that way.
02-03-2009, 08:24 AM
v_parrello

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

I agree with Dyno too, Let's get both invalidated records ...

http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=12
AMD at the extreme system party was using "AMD Engineering Sample", nobody complained then, but it is samples too ...

what do you think?

Just kidding :-P

Francois

Francois,
I think it is the same situation, it could be invalidated.

But now I think it is time to leave this topic we say enough to explain our positions about this.

Sorry to everybody for OT.
02-03-2009, 08:28 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by fiveprime

I enjoy seeing WRs and the like, it's always cool seeing what kind of numbers that can be cranked out of these machines, but this is getting old. Its already bad enough with the access to hardware that the majority of the WR benchers have, but now to start using unreleased hardware, ESs, and then, worst of all, to go ahead and show unsportsmanlike like behavior about it? It would appear that both teams have or may have used questionable methods to obtain these benches, so in all fairness neither run really counts. Everyone expects F1 cars to be fast as hell, just as this type of hardware is expected to be fast as hell, so it is really no surprise when you see records come out of this hardware, it means relatively little to the average overclocker, what matters is what can be done with the chips that we can buy.

It matters because it shows us what is coming.
It matters because it shows us what is possible.
Should I biatch because I don't own a megabuck cascade or can't afford hundreds of litres of LN2 or Liquid helium?
Of course not. I sit back and watch in amazement at what is possible just as I would when watching any display.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

You're beating a dead horse, public opinion doesn't matter here...they get the parts, and if allowed, post results with them. It's a closed competition; you are just an onlooker, as am I. There is no place for public in WR overclocking, never has been.

So suck it up, as I have, and enjoy the show, 'cause that's all you will get.:shrug:

Personally, I stopped benching. I won't let jealousy get the better of me. I think it's a waste of resources, given the current economic climate, but it's still damn cool to see these guys break out the serious cooling and have a go at it...the drama too, is needed. Competition is good, to most, after all.

I personally realized....You can't hop in a F1 car and compete either, so what's the difference?

It's not closed, it's just at another level.
There is still the competition that exists between people here that happens every day and that competition is healthy.
I can't match what you do but I don't get upset over it.
I accept it that your skills and equipment are better than mine and I'm happy for you.:up:
02-03-2009, 08:37 AM
fiveprime

No, it is closed, many people have access to cascades and LN2 but you dont see them getting access to this hardware. It does not show you what is coming or what might be possible, if the same results were possible with your run of the mill bought it from newegg CPU then why do you see the vast majority of WRs coming from non-standard hardware?

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