GeForce GTX295 Card Exposed

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12-10-2008, 04:41 AM
RPGWiZaRD

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Originally Posted by K404

I ended up with this:

Honestly, you could use your comp setup as Christmas tree with all those lights and no1 would notice. :D *j/k* Looks good
12-10-2008, 04:52 AM
slapmehard

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Originally Posted by Stukov

It would actually probably be cheaper and cooler to make a dual GPU single board, I am guessing they went with dual PCB because of the size of the GTX chip. Technological wise, disappointed they went with the dual PCB. I imagine it will trap more heat and increase latencies slightly, however as other have said performance talks. It could be the ugly step-child, but if it can bench press 500 lbs, who cares.

I would think nvidia would save money on using some parts from the GX2?.
Maybe would translate to a cheaper costing card for consumers:)
12-10-2008, 05:02 AM
Blacky

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Originally Posted by Nanometer

I also say boo, it looks like the 9800gx2 which is an infinitely flawed thermal dynamic design. I think ATI has the better idea with multiple die cards.

ATi idea is not mind blowing, they can do it because the chip's are small enough to be able to put multiples dies in one card, but now the question is does 2 GT200 dies fit in one pcb? unless you want a 15"> card or something :ROTF:
12-10-2008, 05:05 AM
jasonelmore

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Originally Posted by slapmehard

I would think nvidia would save money on using some parts from the GX2?.
Maybe would translate to a cheaper costing card for consumers:)

Like what parts? The sli bridge? lol that's about all this thing has in common
12-10-2008, 05:12 AM
clonez

omg, its going to get soo hot, especially when oced

maybe itll void warranty if you run furmark on this (in microscopic size, looking like a line: "warning, this product is not suitable for running >70% load longer than 1 min at a time")
12-10-2008, 05:24 AM
Helmore

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Originally Posted by Blacky

ATi idea is not mind blowing, they can do it because the chip's are small enough to be able to put multiples dies in one card, but now the question is does 2 GT200 dies fit in one pcb? unless you want a 15"> card or something :ROTF:

I think the main reason why a single PCB is very impractical is the amount of chips that you have to put on there. You will need to put 28 memory chips and 2 huge GPUs on there. For the 4870 X2 you only have 16 memory chips which saves you a lot of space.

BTW, could someone explain me why there are quite a few whom clearly don't like Displayport? I don't see what's wrong with the standard. HDMI and Displayport will probably live next to each in the future, there is not much we can do to stop it. Pretty much all future notebooks will have Displayport in there, the reason for that is because it is a better connection to the display in there than what is common now and HDMI or DVI can't drive a screen directly. So for notebook manufacturers it will only be a small step to also provide an external Displayport connection. More future desktop LCD screens will also get Displayport connections, for TVs HDMI will continue to reign supreme probably.
12-10-2008, 05:25 AM
D-Cyph3r

Am I the only 1 who figure that they went with a sandwich design again not because of the size of the die, but because 2 sets of 448bit 869MB would be impossible to fit on a single PCB?

EDIT: Ah, Helmore had the right idea aswell.
12-10-2008, 05:35 AM
v_rr

Remember that SidePort is still disabled in HD 4870X2. Now Sideport enable can be a priority to ATI (before it wasn´t because ATI had a huge advantage, so no need to activate it), and get a new magic speed bump ;)
12-10-2008, 05:44 AM
STaRGaZeR

Here we go again with the Sideport thing...
12-10-2008, 05:48 AM
Luka_Aveiro

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Originally Posted by v_rr

Remember that SidePort is still disabled in HD 4870X2. Now Sideport enable can be a priority to ATI (before it wasn´t because ATI had a huge advantage, so no need to activate it), and get a new magic speed bump ;)

Atrological powers are known to be high near Christmas. :ROTF:
12-10-2008, 05:51 AM
slapmehard

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Originally Posted by jasonelmore

Like what parts? The sli bridge? lol that's about all this thing has in common

Oh sry
my bad:(
12-10-2008, 06:00 AM
v_rr

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Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

Atrological powers are known to be high near Christmas. :ROTF:

Just a guess, don´t take it to serious :)
If it don´t happen it Christmas and Santa Claus fault :D

Anyway Sideport is there waiting to be used. My theory is that ATI is keeping it unused, and bring a magical boost by January time.
It´s very unusual they have that feature and don´t use it.... I remember ATI talked that there will be 3 phases in HD 4800 and 2 of them where already rolled out, but they never talked about phase number 3. Maybe Sideport, or they simply forget it.
12-10-2008, 06:04 AM
kryptobs2000

What were the first and 2nd phases?
12-10-2008, 06:18 AM
largon

1st: RV770
2nd: R700
3rd: either HD4830 (scavenged&cut RV770) or the rumoured RV770 refresh (TSMC 45nm GS-process?)
12-10-2008, 07:32 AM
[XC] Synthetickiller

So how will the gtx285 compare to the gtx295?

Is it the same thing as this:

GTX290 (doesn't exist) ----->GTX285
GTX280 x2 ----------------->GTX295

What I am trying to say is, will the die shrink provide an even faster high end single die/pcd card than the current gtx280 (not just a shrink) as well as the chip itself being faster than a single chip on the gtx295?

That would seem more ideal since SLI still has microstuttering problems.
12-10-2008, 07:34 AM
Monkeywoman

that card looks soo 3 slot, someone should run benchies with sli 216core gtx260 and down clock them so we can can get and idea of performance.
12-10-2008, 07:36 AM
Mk

wait 2-3 more days and we will know everything ;)
12-10-2008, 07:39 AM
Monkeywoman

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Originally Posted by C.Ron7aldo

wait 2-3 more days and we will know everything ;)

HAHAH we've got ourselves another OBR!
12-10-2008, 08:03 AM
VOID WARRANTY

WELCOME TO THE FUTURE OF GAMING......:rofl::rofl::rofl:

http://www.hardware.info/images/news...ds_sli_550.jpg
THIS WILL BE YOUR COMPUTER
http://www.collegebeing.com/uploads/...g-computer.jpg
12-10-2008, 08:07 AM
clonez

oh noes

aint that picture a bit outdated

same picture with 9800gx2 would be something.. massive block (and massive heat problems lol)
12-10-2008, 08:17 AM
VOID WARRANTY

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Originally Posted by clonez

oh noes

aint that picture a bit outdated

same picture with 9800gx2 would be something.. massive block (and massive heat problems lol)

history repeats itself
12-10-2008, 08:31 AM
dan7777

lol crysis hopefully we will be playing at normal framerate of 60fps lol soon 2 years time :)
12-10-2008, 08:34 AM
Slovnaft

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Originally Posted by dan7777

lol crysis hopefully we will be playing at normal framerate of 60fps lol soon 2 years time :)

we'll still be playing crysis in 2 years?
12-10-2008, 08:35 AM
kadozer

Something tells me Crysis 2 and/or Crysis 3 will be out by then and up the requirements once again.
12-10-2008, 08:53 AM
PrometheusCon

So this still has the ridiculous hole in the PCB? I can't really tell from the first picture.

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