3th time....Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
extreme overclocking on the non-extreme variants of the i7 is almost impossible
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3th time....Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
extreme overclocking on the non-extreme variants of the i7 is almost impossible
You know that those i7 numbers are too low. He did not measure uncore requirements. See here. Like measuring Phenom without NB and L3. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
That's why I'm asking you, how does the Q9450 or the Q6600 for example do in extreme overclocking? Pretty much the same if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellisimo
Funny, We have a extreme overclocking section on this very board, Seems the i7 920 is quite the performer with clocks at 4.6, 4.3 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellisimo
What am I missing that makes me think you are talking nonsense?
Thanks Justapost,i missed that :up:.Nice link btw!Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
strange, i can find E8600 @ 6.6ghz = 100% OCQuote:
Originally Posted by gallag
still havent seen any 920 passing 5ghz
back on topic:
shanghai looks pretty decent in power consumption
edit// removed link
Where is the speechless smiley?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellisimo
NO, I think he means that 4Ghz ain't something special. It's like 3.4Ghz for AMD is. It's pretty common now.
I mean, you could set a note of 5 lines, give it to your grandma including an untweaked PC and she can get it 3.6Ghz without problems in 99.99% of the times without knowing wtf she just did:rolleyes:
Anyhow, although it might be that simple, it's still a lot faster than what you can get on the market anyway.
Also i7 920 might be hitting 4.3 and 4.6Ghz, the majority just lands before 4Ghz or just at 4Ghz. It's not like because one or two CPU's got over it that this is a valid argument to say most 920's get that high.
Also it's food for thought whether anything around 4Ghz is a 'good' OC nowadays for Intel, as said, it's too common. Now a Phenom at 3.8Ghz 24/7 stable with watercooling, that's an achievement. Or i7 920 4.5Ghz, since not all Yorkfields got even that high, would be an achievement (if 24/7 stable on high-end air/watercooling, something durable).
Fact still remains, i7 920 @4Ghz, no matter how simple, is faster than anything on the market. But... Once again this ain't an Intel thread, so lets get back on topic. I guess with all the things I typed above everything what's relevant is being said now regarding i7 being a crap OC'er or not.
haha, i can already view benchmark results on some website, shanghai is pretty good :)
some awesome improvements
a 2.7 shanghai beats a 2.66 harpertown in perf/watt easily
So why no link?
its some kind of trick with their website, will post the numbers i have found out :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Eson
already found: povray, cinebench, euler 3d, ...
gimme some more minutes
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Originally Posted by Bellisimo
I'm guessing everyone here has access to LN2 or dice. I mean, 4GHz+ with Core i7 920 on air is crap. We need 6GHz+ on AIR!!!
And Phenom has trouble getting to 3.6GHz. :rolleyes:
And guess what? Core i7 hasn't even been launched, why don't you wait a bit before wanting 6GHz+ benches.
A trick huh? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellisimo
Really gives this "site" credibility.
OK, here are the results, thank you anonymous website :yepp: ;)
Bench: Caselab Euler 3D
AMD Opteron 2384: 63.1s
Intel Xeon L540: 66.9s
AMD Opteron 2356: 84s
Bench: Cinebenc 10
AMD Opteron 2384: 19357
Intel Xeon L540: 19997
AMD Opteron 2356: 15372
Bench: FlamMap FSPRO
AMD Opteron 2384: 427
Intel Xeon L540: 376s
AMD Opteron 2356: 512
Bench: HL2 Build Map Bench
AMD Opteron 2384: 91s
Intel Xeon L540: 87s
AMD Opteron 2356: 109s
Bench: PovRay 3.7b21 Chess2 1280*1024
AMD Opteron 2384: 58.4s
Intel Xeon L540: 59.1s
AMD Opteron 2356: 69.4s
Bench: SunGard AA
AMD Opteron 2384: 249.6s
Intel Xeon L540: 230.2s
AMD Opteron 2356: 300.2s
Power Consumption Idle
AMD Opteron 2384: 100W
Intel Xeon L540: 169W
AMD Opteron 2356: 109W
Power Consumption Load
AMD Opteron 2384: 197W
Intel Xeon L540: 227W
AMD Opteron 2356: 226W
you dont have to believe me, took me about an half an hour to find it, you can also wait for 2 days, i dont care, and no i didnt hack or something...Quote:
Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129
i didnt say 4hz on air is crap, but the extreme overclocking (if you know what is.... dont think so judging from your statement, maybe look up what dryice and ln2 are) is very limitied because of the QPI, maybe some mobos will go to 250, but i doubt it at this moment
your the devil :eek: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellisimo
Well not my finds I'll pass your thank to KTE whom found that systematic error here.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
if anyone is interested in the HWI SQL results? or sissoft 2009 MEM/L1/L2 results, i will post them
i can also compare with a x5470 if you guys like? thats a 3.3ghz xeon
Yes please. :up:
Perf/Watt looks good ~10% advantage here over all compared to xeon and 35% compared to 65nm k10.
Is the moon made of cheese? Is Shintai on Intel's payroll? POST IT BABY! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bellisimo