Well now just to be clear I'm not saying just setting up phase change is going to bring recognition; it was an example of how you want to consistently push barriers with new hardware.
That being said: go for it!
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Well now just to be clear I'm not saying just setting up phase change is going to bring recognition; it was an example of how you want to consistently push barriers with new hardware.
That being said: go for it!
To get freebies, essentially you have to already be rich enough to blow stupid amounts of money overclocking on ln2 and buying extreme parts. So when the new stuff comes out you already have enough money to buy it anyway, but instead get it free. Its one of those catch 22's. If you can afford to get free stuff, you dont really need it for free. If you cant afford it, well you wont get it. Sucks having to slum it.
First, Sorry OP I don't want to jack your thread.
Good thread :up:
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Right, I understand. I have been wanting to build a phase any way though so, the time is right for me to act upon it I guess.
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I don't have all the money in the world that is for sure. Atleast not yet, :hehe:.
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This thing has been discussed in the past already.Quote:
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If you want to keep this kind of conversation going, then go ahead and read and post in the appropriate thread
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Originally Posted by BenchZowner
it comes down to this.
you get i7 either because you do need it, (DC computing), computers is a hobby (90% of all of us reading this forum), or you just like bleeding edge (HC Gamer).
The guys that are complaining are the ones who:
1. Cant afford it in some way.
2. Dont want other people on it because they cant afford it
3. view it as financial sucidie <well to others, its cheaper then 1 month going out>
4. Dont want others to ruin there little utopia in inferior technology.
Any computer right now, yorkfield, wolfdale class, is already overkill.
I dont have i7, However i have Gainestown.
So bite me. :rofl:
Well Im not into i7 side because the performance gain is not worth it (for me), but I dont say "it sucks".
Maybe for somebody stepping up from an Pentium D, Allendale, first conroes etc
i7 is definitely a step forward. I don't think there is much to argue about there. It may not be a compelling upgrade for gamers already on current hardware, but for anyone looking for something new it should be considered.
Core i7 isnt as revolutionary as Intel have been spouting for months, but luckily the price will now fall on the QX9770 and for 5% less perf than the i7 Extreme its a bargain!
Ya, i'm still sitting on a 1 year old q6600, so i'm looking forward to the new chips. Especially that i can get an evga board without the hassle of nvidia chipsets and the improvements that x58 is bringing to SLI.
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4. Dont want others to ruin there little utopia in inferior technology.
Guessing the 66 isn't a gold chip then? :p:Quote:
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This new chip seems to like Folding as well.:)
Couldn't agree more. The thread title is really not appropriate.
And, BTW, what you consider a bad investment, may be an excellent investment for other people.
If for example you work with 3D rendering, I'm sure Core i7 is an excellent investment.
Are you into Folding (like me)? From what I've been reading this CPU's are monsters!
Last Thursday I attended an ICC (Intel Channel Conference) and saw live a comparison between a QX9770 based system and a Core i7 965 one.
Both run at the same clock (3.2GHz) but the Core i7 has less cache.
It kicked the QX9770 in the ass! :D
Cinebench 10 showed a significant difference between both platforms.
4 cores + hyperthreading definitely will be useful for some types of computing.
Of course that GPU's are still a bottleneck, but with this platform allowing for nVIDIA and ATI multi-GPU scaling, I predict a good future for Nehalem.
Early adopters will obviously pay the premium price, and IMO if they have the money to do it, why not?
Don't forget that this "elite" will push for more motherboards and memory to be released, bug corrections, experiences, improvements, revisions, etc.
I personally will wait for applications to be optimized for this new platform, and for motherboard manufacturers to get more experienced.
If I was to buy one as soon as it's available, I would buy Intel's DX58SO motherboard as it seems not to have some design and thermal issues that other brands/models are experiencing.
Well, Intel developed the CPU and the chipset... shouldn't they know what they're doing? :p:
Core i7 will sooner or later (probably later) do to Core 2, what Core 2 did to Pentium 4/D, etc.
Intel is definitely not sleeping anymore.
They admitted that Pentium 4 lasted way to long... now that they're leading (with a huge margin) I don't believe that they want to throw their leadership away.
Sorry for all this blah. :D
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This is very strange. So if the highest end i7 CPUs are about the same performance(in games) as current CPUs whats gonna happen when the socket 1160 CPUs come out.?? They would have to perform less than the socket 1366 CPUs right? Are gamers forced into the pricey highend just to game?
This will be very interesting.
i7 looks like a winner, but I'll be waiting for the Xeon variants...after using Skulltrail, going back to a single socket seems wrong...
What I'd really like is for someone like Supermicro or Tyan to do a good workstationy Beckton...that has at least one 16x PCI-E and an 8x for a RAID card.:yepp:
The specs on Beckton looks absolutely sick...8 cores, 24MB of L3...the only downside will be how much it's clocked down to accomodate the second die on the package. The socket is a fair bit larger than Nehalem, so hopefully this will permit larger heatsinks and allow the clocks to remain high, so hopefully they won't drop more than 1 Bin below the normal Quads.
32 cores in one system, with another 32 virtual cores....:slobber:
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Games are not bandwidth starved, if there is a LGA 1160 proc that has 3ghz it will be on par with the 940.
Maybe even faster cause the pci-e controller is ondie and not on a chipset. :yepp:
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Lynnfield will have a embedded PCI-Express controller.
looks like a nice step forward for me
i'll jus wait till price drop alil
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Well said, mate.
Not sure what you mean here. But a 1.2vid q6600 capable of 4ghz is pretty close to gold :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTsCrEaM
Since when are CPU's investments? Where can I buy one of these suckers.
waist of money just look ak 3 way sli sli review and cfx jump from 50 fps to 80 90 fps at the biggest resolution come on
if the fps was low maybe but the test is with an e8400 not overclocked lol
i dont know a lot of pepps that got cf or sli and dont oc lol
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...rmance-review/
I like the platform, but since i have a 4.12ghz q9550 right now, i wont be upgrading till 32nm comes out next year, by then more board will be out, better bios's etc.... plus i am a gamer and i7 right now gives me no benefit.