when are we going to be seeing these goodies on shelves?
weeks or months?
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when are we going to be seeing these goodies on shelves?
weeks or months?
Martin and skinnee--
I can confirm that the production samples DID ship today from Asia.
http://www.primochill.com/images/T3_PSample1.jpg
http://www.primochill.com/images/T3_PSample.jpg
Just as an FYI the production parts will have nickel plated inserts not the brass shown in the picture. They are only sending 5 units...but your covered skinnee as your getting mine. :( The plugs and fittings are also NOT done yet but I would like to ship to you guys without them as I do not see that affecting your testing. Metal Ghosts are almost identical (and have the same ID as their polycarbonate counterparts). Your call however.
nice!! man i cant wait !!
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Go PrimoChill.
You and me both =)Quote:
Originally Posted by RealRedRaider
Judging by your system specs though I don't see you in T3's target demographic lol.
What are the T's in your avatar for? (I only ask because I am in WAY South Texas)
Great!Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods
But glue? Why not bolts and an o-ring? I'll leave that to you, I guess.
Nickel plated what... Nickel plated aluminum or nickel plated steel?
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Can you release any info on how the separate ghost barbs will be priced?
Excellent product. :up:
come on eddie... hes talking about the inserts that dont touch any water...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
anyways
woot, that looks really nice :up:
Oh.. Okay, skipped that part. Glad you clarified that up :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
hha what exactly is the t3's target demographic if not the high end watercooler enthusiast?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods
(how far south texas?)
Lets make sure during one of these reviews someone mounts them in a nice case fills it up with Feser-One or a UV dye and bombs it with blacklight, because I'm seriously considering using this for my DAW.
Boxgods, looks nice! :up: Can't wait to see Martin and Skinnee's test results. Martin I love how you keep adding items onto your test schedule. :ROTF:
Eddie...:rofl:.....awesome defensive move on the "nickel plated" comment!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
I know where you're coming from brother! It's the XS conditioning....
I don't have an extra case I can mount it in...but your request is noted! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by afX
The two halves are actually bonded together with a process called immersion welding. By "glued" I meant guys at home who may not have the tanks etc to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
From a design perspective (aka my opinion) the screws and O ring gasket system just has too many downsides. The added complexity boosts costs, increases user error which increases tech support issues/complaints, reduces internal volume, and is a nightmare to produce with injection molding. The company that is producing the T3 and I went round and round on wall thickness because of sag or slump--both of which look like crap.
My original version had the face as a separate part that uses an O ring and screws and the front was just too busy looking. I then moved the O ring/face to the back and thought I had the aesthetic problem beat...but it was WORSE because the part is clear it MAGNIFIED the O ring and screws lol. It also made the part so deep that draft went up to 5 degrees...
With all things taken into consideration immersion welded halves worked out best.
No I can't (again I only did the design work and don't work for Primo).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gir92
I know the metal Ghosts are for sale already so their price point is established. I would imagine the polycarbonate versions will be cheaper though I have no idea by how much. Injected polycarbonate parts are cheaper per part right up till you add in the tooling. I saw the tooling estimate for the whole line of fittings/plumbing parts this AM and I can say VERY seriously say that you could buy a nice car for less...neighborhood of $20K - $25K. You have to sell a LOT of parts at $2 USD a pop to even break even lol.
Frankly that's why modders and w/c guys don't already have killer polycarbonate fittings already is that no company wants to wait a few years to see a return on that big an investment. My hats off to Brian because if he goes ahead with this he is basically self financing a BIG group buy so we have killer parts.
Well, about as far South as you can go...like throw a rock 3 times and hit Mexico almost lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffsthaboss
The target demographic is those people wanting a quality part that makes water cooling a little bit easier. Everyone in here already knows all the benefits of water cooling are substantial...so why aren't a LOT more people doing it? Difficulty, fear etc. Water cooling is nowhere near the "black art" it was back when we were cross drilling copper slugs for blocks but it is still harder then slapping an air cooler on.
So my goal for this product (and most of the recent designs I have worked on) was making it easier to mount a pump in the most obvious and convenient location, placing the connections for plumbing in a more accessible location not only on the part, but in relation to the parts installed location. Also to make filling, bleeding air, and flushing coolant as straight forward and simple as possible for ANY installed location or component combination. I don't think there is an easier solution on the market.
I still wanted it to be cool enough and useful enough for more experienced users and have enough potential to appeal to modders (my days of hard core cooling are mostly gone as I now water cool because it makes mods LOOK cooler).
A lot of the guys in here are the type to change out a pump top for a new one that has 1% better raw performance. That's not T3. That said, T3 will still help every hard core guy in here (I hope) because it will make things easier for new users and casual water coolers. More people in the fold makes it a more attractive market segment so companies can also turn out the very low margin parts you guys like to tinker with for Halo effect.
I am just about positive Primo Chill would prefer they use the Primo Chill line of fluids ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by afX
Rocky is also correct. None of the brass parts are in contact with cooling fluid. The only reason they are even plating the inserts is because I about croaked when I saw the garish brass ones...was a funny conversation with the Chinese rep:
Geno: WTF! Thats a LOT of brass. We are going to need those to be stainless or aluminum.
Rep: What wrong Brass? It warm and traditional metal.
Geno: Yeah, for bullet casings and boat parts maybe. Has to be a silver color. Can you plate those?
Rep: West is crazy. Yes plating is OK but will be more cost.
He actually said we were crazy lol.
Thank you for your replies BoxGods.
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Looks great! I'm looking forward to trying it out. I used to be a T-line guy, but after using the XSPC restop on my DDC, I like the res/pump combos...:)
Okay, I suppose 'glue' just scared me. "Immersion welding" sounds better. I'd like to be getting one of these alone or with metal barbs very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods
thanks very much, it doesn't have to be a case just filling it with some Primochill PC-ICE and a UV light would be very helpful :), If you would like me to have a bottle shipped to you just hit me with a PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Yes... where are my manners, I don't use Fexer-0n3, I don't even know ehat that is, honest. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxGods