Foxconn Renaissance X58 Digital Life -Retail- (Core i7, Nehalem)

nice price for a X58 Mainboard :)

pics not working.

great price:)

Hahaa.. This is the first time I exceeded the bandwidth limitation.

I have to rehost pictures soon! Sorry!

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Originally Posted by SF3D

I have some good news for you guys! :up:

The price of this motherboard will be around 250 USD. (185€)

This motherboard should be available immediately when Core i7 is launched.

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In Europe it will be 250€ because they convert in 1$-1€

Great price!

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Originally Posted by saaya

both is possible, if you certify for SLI you can still use xfire. and xfire works fine even when you use nf200 chips, so in any case, if it supports sli, it support xfire as well. the only exception beeing nvidias own chipsets :D

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Is that for EVERY xfire board? :confused:

Nice price, but...
let's see some BoodRage PICS Plaaeeze!

Pictures are fixed.

Yes DMH, but I hope that the price will be around 200€ in Finland. We have quite cheap hardware here. Germany is the cheapest and I think we are the next.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

sure that NB readpoint is correct Saaya?

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not 100%, our engineers had already gone home that night :D

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Originally Posted by boblemagnifique

beautiful motherboard !!

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thank you :D
but even the heatsink? :lol:

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Originally Posted by pajaa

There is a shop that sells Codenames? I did'nt know that. :rofl:

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where did you think those names come from? :D

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Originally Posted by ZillaPct

Saaya good motherboard, Foxconn in the past year has much improved the layout of their cards, if the blackops has proved an excellent product this card will not be less....:up:

Nahalem along with the bus qpi are excellent tools for every overclocker, the difference of architecture with out the performance level will allow for easier management of DDR3 phase Vs. Intel Memory controller.

If you have good micron GTS or GTR with low cas, the Nahalem architecture break new overclock record......:D:D

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yes, i think so too, just look at the foxconn boards from 1 year ago :D
they looked and overclocked like ecs boards :P hehe

this board is not the quantum force board, so there will be a board with a lot more beefy pwm for cpu, nb and memory, optimized layout for overclocking, higher voltages, more voltage options, more bios options etc etc :D

regarding the memory, well... especially earlier stepping nehalem chips are sensitive to memory voltage and some died with 1.9v after just some hours :S
but the recent chips seem to work fine with up to 2.3v, at least for benching.
intels official statement however, is that more than 1.65v vdimm is not recommended as it may degrade the lifetime of the processor.

i think intel is playing it safe here with 1.65v, and the newer settpings seem to be much better in that regard, so... it SHOULD be ok to run 2v 24/7...

id recommend you guys to start with 1.65v and move up bit by bit and check if its scaling at all... if you cant get higher with more vdimm then the imc might not like higher volts and forcing it might damage/degrade it.

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Originally Posted by hixie

I have this board in my hands right now. I will add some pictures latter.

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bring it on! :D

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Originally Posted by fatman

board is very nice i like the openness of everything. like the new style of nb and sd cooling alot really nice, colors are great like the scheme alot, get rid of ide and add more sata i know you cant do that but it would be nice. like the new power and reset buttons? or just a label? not sure.

this board is really nice i would love to get it. cant wait to see what the quantum series will be

yay 2 e sata make me happy.

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yes, there will be power and reset buttons :D glad you like the colors :)
and yes, i asked them to remove ide and floppy countless times but they are worried itll hurt sales of the boards... people like us dont care, but there are still some people who do, especially system integrators tend to be very conserative...

you really use eSATA? what for?
tbh that was one of the things i recommended to remove as well... :D

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Originally Posted by pcaddict

lots of usb's nice (:

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yeah :D
i recommended them to add even more and not leave an empty space for the PWM heatsink ventilation since i doubt that does a lot anyways :P

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Originally Posted by Lagaaja

Board seems sick, I'd like to get my hands on that beauty. Altough I'm bit worried about the cooling..

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for stock operation its ok i guess... i forwarded them your concerns and they are testing the cooling performance again and check alternative solutions.

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Originally Posted by SF3D

Actually this cooling solution is not bad. I just measured the temperature and it is 29C idle and 36C on load. (Vantage)

I have this little Quantum Force fan attached to the NB cooler :up:

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yeah, if you rip off the cover and put a fan on top it works pretty well actually :D

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Originally Posted by diezel

Nice pictures ! SF3D

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yes indeed! i forgot to mention that, thanks a lot for the nice pics petri! :toast:
buying that cam sure was worth it :D

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Originally Posted by Junos

There are lots of rumours concerning processor and memory voltage with Nehalem. Some claim that they're synchronized - going over 1.65V for memory can kill your cpu.

Is it true or just fud? (I suspect fud, but one can never be sure) :)

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well i think it was somebody not technical at all who interpreted things this way. vcore and vdimm were never tied. there MAY have been an internal relation between vcore and vdimm however, or a relation of vdimm vtt and vcore, or vdimm vtt and cpu vtt (most likely) which resulted in high vdimm indirectly killing/damaging the cpu. but actually early chips didnt like ANY voltage to be above 1.65v or they would degrade or die, which some intel people told us sounds like a manufacturing process limitation... which makes most sense to me as well...

anyways, it seems to be fixed/improved in the C stepping now :)

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Originally Posted by Astratuner

to bad you can use only 1333 ddr3 memory since all the faster ones require to much voltage.
man this s*** hard.

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not really, you can use 1600 and higher, there are some vendors preparing tripple channel memory kits with low vdimm already :D

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Originally Posted by SF3D

I tested my sticks today at 1400MHz and 6-6-6-15 timings (1.8V) :up:

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sweet! :D :toast:

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Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER

exellent color's !

my fav black & burnt orange :) HD raceing colors :)

cant wait for the QF release of it

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Originally Posted by M3kk

Same here, my favorite color combination :D.

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really? didnt know orange was that popular. maybe its cause its halloween :D

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

from the roller-coaster coolers of MSI to the wacky speaker'n'knob coolers of Foxconn.. :rolleyes:

simplicity ppl, simplicity

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dont forget the msi windmill! that one was pretty funny too :lol:

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Originally Posted by Cooper

http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2838959.jpg

that x58 is HUGE :eek:

anyone knows why? AFAIK it's just pci-e, DMI and QPI buses there.

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yeah and it gets really hot too, about the same as x38/x48 :o
and yes, its only qpi and pciE, really weird it gets that hot huh?
i dont think its pciE that creates that much heat... i suspect its actually the qpi interface that runs so hot.

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Originally Posted by Anemone

Well while I'm not a fan of Orange, you clearly outbid Asus on the Orange/gold pci-e x16 slots. Perhaps you could send one of your color specialists to Asus to show them what a consistent color scheme really looks like so they have a chance to come out with a P6T mark 2 :)

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what do you mean?

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Originally Posted by Anemone

But personally prefer blue/black and red/black and lastly green/black, but at least it's got a clean, consistent look to it.

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thanks :toast:

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Originally Posted by Remcokatz

Is that for EVERY xfire board? :confused:

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huh? what do you mean?
not every xfire board can run sli (well it COULD if nvidia wouldnt block it)
i hope that answers your question :D

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Originally Posted by Slovnaft

Nice price, but...
let's see some BoodRage PICS Plaaeeze!

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why are you people so crazy to see pics of bloodrage? :D
itll be released later and the layout might still change...
just use your imagination, BloodRage uses red slots, has an optimized layout for overclocking, more voltage options and higher voltages, beefier pwms for cpu mem and nb, and it will support OC Panel of course :D

http://www.abload.de/thumb/2838892su0.jpg

very nice color black and orange it looking violent and beautiful :D

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Originally Posted by saaya

why are you people so crazy to see pics of bloodrage? :D

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Handjob syndrom, observed within xs and hustler ppls :rofl:

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Originally Posted by inCore

Somebody finally realized that combining purple with green with blue with neon orange is not the way forwards.

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+1, the color combo is among the best i've seen, ever! :yepp:

Speaker thingy looks a bit tacky, but funky none-the-less.

Actually I like purple and green but I think I'm that 0.002% :D. I want good Bloodrage images before I RAGE!!!.

Question for those in the know. Does the mobo come with a small fan to go on the nb or is that an aftermarket item? If you had a perfect size fan ..... cool :)

Very interesting look, and actually, I like the speaker, as its not a highend board, but the mainstream, then its actually a nice feature, IMO....

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Originally Posted by Achill3uS

congrats m8 for this nice mobo :) we will have a nice xmas, everybody will bench nehalem at the end of this year...
layout seems perfect, except the NB cooler, i don't like it, saaya be creative but not that much :D
BUT... if they focus on "digital life / digital home" support and looking, i can smell some quantum force x58 in the future, am i wrong? :p:

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Bala, did I mention Im coming this christmas? :)
Im very strongly considering celebrating christmas with Dina...
And I will leave again on 3-4th January...

thanks for the BloodRage pic saaya !
must have water nb :D

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Originally Posted by saaya

why are you people so crazy to see pics of bloodrage? :D
itll be released later and the layout might still change...
just use your imagination, BloodRage uses red slots, has an optimized layout for overclocking, more voltage options and higher voltages, beefier pwms for cpu mem and nb, and it will support OC Panel of course :D

http://www.abload.de/thumb/2838892su0.jpg

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Because I theoretically can already blow some pounds sterling on a full nehalem rig at OCUK!
This release is getting soddamn close!

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Originally Posted by saaya

not really, you can use 1600 and higher, there are some vendors preparing tripple channel memory kits with low vdimm already :D

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Yes indeed.

Wintec Industries has been sitting on (not releasing) a 1GB DDR3-1800 CL9 1.5V product for a few months now..

We haven't seen there being enough demand for this product in the dual-channel enthusiast market,
so we're probably just gonna wait to launch this product and make it a tri-channel kit, synchronized with the Nehalem release date.

Here is some good news for everyone who will be using nehalem :D

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00484/2862317.jpg

Prices:

DDR3-1600+ Tri-Channel, 1GBx3 Kit: 230 USD (incl VAT.)
DDR3-1600+ Tri-Channel, 2GBx3 Kit: 350 USD (incl VAT.)

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00965/2862330.jpg

Well these are good and bad news SF3D.
Meaning that others, like Cellshock, G. Skill will follow this path.
And the bad news are that most probably the existing DDR3 kits are useless.

Non of the existing High Performance kits, between 1600-1800MHz, works with less than 1,8+V. To be more specific, I am referring to kits using GTR/GTS Micron chips, which I consider the best performers in DDR3 area. This proves that there is a problem with high voltage DDR3 kits, and the processor, if exposed, can be damaged.
Please, correct me if I am wrong, since you are already testing this combo.

Well dread77, you have a valid point there, but still the best D9GTR sticks will do 1600MHz 8-8-8-20 easily with low volts. So, I don't see any problem here.

We really need these kind of memory sets to get best possible performance out of these systems.

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Originally Posted by dread77

Well these are good and bad news SF3D.
Meaning that others, like Cellshock, G. Skill will follow this path.
And the bad news are that most probably the existing DDR3 kits are useless.

Non of the existing High Performance kits, between 1600-1800MHz, works with less than 1,8+V. To be more specific, I am referring to kits using GTR/GTS Micron chips, which I consider the best performers in DDR3 area. This proves that there is a problem with high voltage DDR3 kits, and the processor, if exposed, can be damaged.
Please, correct me if I am wrong, since you are already testing this combo.

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Tony said that Nehalem needs less voltage for the same ram speeds so maybe today kit's need 1,8V with C2D,with Corei7 they will need only 1,6V.
Also A-DATA will start to sell 3GB and 6GB kits with 1,65V-1,75V from factory;)

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Originally Posted by saaya

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where did you think those names come from? :D
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Well, i thought of a 300 people ultra creative department... Obviously, I'm wrong. :D

If you use Intel Gbe- and other high quality chips on the Blood Rage, it's almost bought, nevermind the price, it's enthusiat.

3.8Ghz,4,2Ghz or 4.5Ghz??

i think its ~3,63Ghz :p: (191x19)