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08-09-2008, 04:02 PM
railmeat

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i see you got the air cooling crazies like myself!:D

lol yep always did,currently running 14 case f@nz +water.few diff air shots on diff setups.

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08-09-2008, 07:39 PM
Ace-a-Rue

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Fastest Superpi 32m For Me

pretty good at PL=9
08-09-2008, 11:24 PM
railmeat

Ace,
could u comment on were the cas 4 slower ram speed vs cas 5 higher ram speed wins.and when the performance leans heavier each way.

this is were im at slowly working my ram up to as hi as cas 4 will stably allow with a decent cpu clock...3.6+

example-im thinking dd850-900+ speed cas 4 CRUSHES any cas 5 ddr`1000-to bout 1150 speed with way LESS voltage then i think the cas 5 1150+ speeds pull ahead performance wise over the slower cas 4?????is my mindset accurate ,if not please explain were the perfomance table breaks at.ty..

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i know that ddr900+ using cas 4 crushes ddr1100+ cas5,u actually have to go past ddr1150 to beat out the cas4 ddr900+ speed ...

thoughts,suggestions please?!?!

this is were im at now slowly priming away

using cell shock ddr 1000 2x1 gig kit d9ghkx(the good stuff)
ram cooling--2x40mm hi rpm sunnon fans blasting them down with air.

--current cfg----

cpu speed - 3.65ghz (450x8.5) -auto volts,sets to 1.28

ram ddr860 4-4-4-12 <--trying to get highest STABLE cas 4 speed,love the 1\2 cpu multis i can use in conjunction with my ram\cpu clock speeds and gives some killer ram divider speed options.

cpu 3.65---auto-- volts going to 1.28

*temps-
prime small ffts\blend

biostar temp moniter program--29c idle\66c load

real temp --idle wierd locked bug\load72c

*ram v 2.176--

*nb-1.224

*fsb term v-1.24
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my overclocking STABLE test method-
run a quick hour of prime(passing) then play quake4 or bf2 for MANY HOURS,then if its GAME stable then prime it for 8hrs.pretty simple and very effective.

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08-10-2008, 07:50 AM
Ace-a-Rue

the battle over cas 4 and cas 5 is useless battle...what you really want is Mhz, crunching power!...it really doesn not make any sense to sacrifice crunching power for ability to move data a little faster.
08-10-2008, 08:26 AM
railmeat

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

the battle over cas 4 and cas 5 is useless battle...what you really want is Mhz, crunching power!...it really doesn not make any sense to sacrifice crunching power for ability to move data a little faster.

"the battle over cas 4 and cas 5 is useless battle...what you really want is Mhz, crunching power!..."

hmm-
i read alot of big tonys comments threw the years and i went with cas 4 hi as i could get on ram\mobo combos and it worked out well espiacally with 1t.have u seen the 1t command rate in bios???
08-10-2008, 09:03 AM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by railmeat

hmm-
i read alot of big tonys comments threw the years and i went with cas 4 hi as i could get on ram\mobo combos and it worked out well espiacally with 1t.have u seen the 1t command rate in bios???

are you kidding about 1T!?:eek:...1T is fine if your ram can handle it like cell-shock memory, but the less expensive stuff has a more difficult time.

1T usually only gives you about 2% to 3% jump in data moving speeds...remember, tony is in the business to promote OCZ memory..that is his main concern; to work out problems with mobo makers to make sure OCZ memory will work...he knows how to maximize memory performance!...i think most of us inferior mortals;) need to work on maximizing MHZ first, then, work on maximizing your memory performance...sometimes there is a happy balance where you can back down on the Mhz by 50 or 100, to allow tighter memory settings that gives good overall performance.

the big change for intel will be the nehalem cpu comes with the MCH right on the CPU die..then, all things change for intel performance.
08-10-2008, 10:12 AM
railmeat

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

are you kidding about 1T!?:eek:...1T is fine if your ram can handle it like cell-shock memory, but the less expensive stuff has a more difficult time.

1T usually only gives you about 2% to 3% jump in data moving speeds...remember, tony is in the business to promote OCZ memory..that is his main concern; to work out problems with mobo makers to make sure OCZ memory will work...he knows how to maximize memory performance!...i think most of us inferior mortals;) need to work on maximizing MHZ first, then, work on maximizing your memory performance...sometimes there is a happy balance where you can back down on the Mhz by 50 or 100, to allow tighter memory settings that gives good overall performance.

the big change for intel will be the nehalem cpu comes with the MCH right on the CPU die..then, all things change for intel performance.

were is 1t option in 80015 bios ???????
08-10-2008, 10:30 AM
Ace-a-Rue

i never look to set 1T...almost everytime i make sure 2T is set...as i look, i see no setting for Command Rate...but...there is that DDR Recomp Configuration and that might be it just disguised....i know only number 3 works for me.
08-10-2008, 10:41 AM
Ace-a-Rue

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Last Benches Before Switching Out To Seagate, 250g, 7200.10 Drives

this is at 4425 mhz...currently running set up on the Seagate drives @ 4425 Mhz...hanging right in there.

after completing setup on the Seagate's and running a few benches to make sure W/D Veloci-Rapto 10K RPM drives add no significant increase in overall performance, i will switch out the E8500 with my QX9650 and re-run everything again.

here are four video benches using the Veloci-Raptor drives:
08-10-2008, 11:44 AM
ceemic

Ace-a-Rue, first of all, thanks for the good review!

Have You measured drop and vdroop with DMM in different Vcore areas (for example 1,30V, 1,40V and 1,50V set in BIOS)?
08-10-2008, 11:48 AM
Ace-a-Rue

to difficult, at the moment, to find the correct resistor to read for Vcore...just from measuring the Vdimm, the bios ouput reading was spot on with the DMM reading...i am going to say it is the same from windows through their TPower2 software...looking at idle Vcore and then full load Vcore, the Vdroop is 0.024v...not bad for an E8500...true test will come when i switch out to my QX9650.
08-10-2008, 12:01 PM
ceemic

What about coil legs otherside board near socket?
08-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by ceemic

What about coil legs otherside board near socket?

damn, trying to find your vcore readout, the positive probe slipped and touched another unknown part and then, the board shutdown...now it won't start up...DARN!:mad:
08-10-2008, 12:40 PM
OnDborder

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

the board shutdown...now it won't start up...DARN!:mad:

Oh no!!
08-10-2008, 12:48 PM
ceemic

Ups :mad:
Sorry about that :(
08-10-2008, 01:00 PM
Ace-a-Rue

it was against my better judgement since i do know accidents can happen...won't make that mistake again...not your fault, it was my slip-up.
08-10-2008, 01:38 PM
railmeat

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

it was against my better judgement since i do know accidents can happen...won't make that mistake again...not your fault, it was my slip-up.

o lord,thought the biostar temp proggie was pretty much dead nuts on as far as voltages went.seemed like it to me,compared side by side to cpuz etc.
:shakes:sorry to hear.
08-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Ace-a-Rue

aaah, knew better but the other guy wanted to know...i thought it was accurate but wanted to attempt to pin that down...so...i pinned the board down right into not working;)...lesson learned; the hard way!
08-10-2008, 02:58 PM
railmeat

progress so far ddr8800 cas 4-4-4-12 vdimm 2.176 -----cpu 3.75ghz (440x8) auto voltage = 1.28.

now going for 3.8 900 cas 4-4-4-12 2.2 volts max im thinking,this must be prime stable\game stable

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08-10-2008, 03:28 PM
mrcape

Anyone got settings for 4-4-4-12 PL7 stable > 500fsb (for wolfdale)?

I had them at one point but can't seem to get it back today. I think it's the wrong Rcomp config. If I get it I'll post it here. I think for some of us it's important to find efficient settings / tight timings and trd. Maybe only a few of us, but in my case, I want to get as efficient as possible before I take it under cold for benching.

I'm comparing results with DFI LP UT P35. Testing with 1m for efficiency using similar settings gets me close when I can get 44412 trd 7, but like I said above it's failing today.

Overall this board is great. I've been able to get it up to 6.1ghz+ with e8400. 1m 7.81s. e86 will do way better.

My only gripes so far are small lack of efficiency, large grain vcore options.
08-10-2008, 05:34 PM
Ace-a-Rue

did you mod the board to cutout the OVP?

4-4-4-12 & PL=7 is very tight settings for 500 FSB..per chance, are you using cell-shock memory?
08-10-2008, 07:34 PM
mrcape

No mod, I had no probs with OVP at all. I had actually had it up to -160c and 2.05vcore lol. It's really amazing this board, especially the price, speed and durability.

The memory is 2 kits Gskill, 1 Team and 1 mushkin, all with D9GMH ics. Probably not for the average settings, but I'm not opposed to throwing voltage at my ram. It's held up fine too. I've ran a D9 kit at 2.23v for over a year at 1000mhz 44412. It's a breeze to run those settings on the DFI, I'm sure I can get it back on this board too.

Nice review and thread by the way. :) This board needed a good thread for more than just benchers.
08-10-2008, 07:36 PM
GueD'S

What about the RAID option on this board? Did you guys are using RAID on it? I saw that you Ace-a-Rue was using Areca cards to do RAID, but can i use, the board have native RAID option??
08-10-2008, 07:44 PM
Ace-a-Rue

i presume the intel raid option would work very WELL!...everytime that i used it on other boards, it performed very nicely!:up:
08-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Ace-a-Rue

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Originally Posted by mrcape

No mod, I had no probs with OVP at all. I had actually had it up to -160c and 2.05vcore lol. It's really amazing this board, especially the price, speed and durability.

what bios were you using then?

if you had no problem with that vcore then maybe my board had a defect...i had the 710 bios!

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Nice review and thread by the way. :) This board needed a good thread for more than just benchers.

thanks!:)...i had the same impression as i reviewed other threads before starting this one!:up:

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