3870 x2 review

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Originally Posted by Trox

http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...GB/Page-3.html

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Thanks for the link. Starting to get excited about this card now. Can't wait to see how they perform in "Quadfire" mode!

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Originally Posted by villa1n

It is the drivers currently hampering it in crysis, which takes time to overcome when nvidia tuned their drivers for that specific game ;)

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Actually, as stated in the review they used the pre-release demo of Crysis which was known to have Crossfire issues.

I want to see a REAL review. Someone please review the R680 on Crysis using the latest drivers, plus Crysis 1.1 Retail, plus the hotfixes installed.

where are all these hotfixes located? are they just windows updates?

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Originally Posted by Scimitar

I want to see a REAL review. Someone please review the R680 on Crysis using the latest drivers, plus Crysis 1.1 Retail, plus the hotfixes installed.

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you call me?? :D

i will test hd3870X2 , will arrive in few days :up:

regards

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Originally Posted by mascaras

you call me?? :D

i will test hd3870X2 , will arrive in few days :up:

regards

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Great! I'll wait for the results.


I want to see a review wth a comparasion vs ultra, 2x3870's and 8800GT SLI

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Originally Posted by mascaras

you call me?? :D

i will test hd3870X2 , will arrive in few days :up:

regards

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You better o/c the crap out of that card mascaras! ;)

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Originally Posted by mascaras

you call me?? :D

i will test hd3870X2 , will arrive in few days :up:

regards

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You are not getting 2 cards??? Wuss!! :D

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but Quad CF mode is not scaling properly so don't get your hopes up.

No surprise really, 7950GX2 quad was a joke as well.

So what happens if you run the card on a non PCIE 2.0 board? Will it not provide enough power or will bandwidth be limited or both?

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Originally Posted by HKPolice

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but Quad CF mode is not scaling properly so don't get your hopes up.

No surprise really, 7950GX2 quad was a joke as well.

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On XP, it should be exactly the same scenario as Quad-SLI. Tri-SLI should perform excellently (if the reasons for Quad-SLI's failures were truthful) and so should a 3 GPU ATI setup.

Performance in Vista could be a crapshoot.
Decreased performance due to DX10 being lame vs. Increased performance due to DX9 limitations being eliminated.

Which one is greater?

I still want to see how Quad-SLI performs in Vista under DX9 compared to XP DX9. That should give some answers.

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Originally Posted by situman

So what happens if you run the card on a non PCIE 2.0 board? Will it not provide enough power or will bandwidth be limited or both?

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Well to start with, then you'll need a ATX 2.3 PSU (8-pin cable) to have Overdrive available in CCC.
Also, the card is 2 x PCi-Ex8 so i guess it could benefit from every extra crumb of greater bandwidth.

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Originally Posted by XS2K

O'rly it can't use more than 128 shaders hmm....:shakes:
Since patch 1.1 one the game works well with CF too (or that is what I heard from CF users in this forum) but here is a review with the game performance 1.0 version and SLi so as you can see a 8800GT scores 27.3 FPS average in single and 45.2 in SLi and a 8800GTS 21.2 single and 38.8 in SLi I think that's quite a hefty boost...
So it CAN use more than 128SP,it's not terrbly programed and quite likes multi GPU (or atleast the Nvidia version...)

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look at this man

i dont care how many patches they put out, the ball is in ATIs field to work on drivers. 8.5 and the performance will be there.

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Originally Posted by nr2134

You are not getting 2 cards??? Wuss!! :D

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nope , only one :(

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Originally Posted by trans am

You better o/c the crap out of that card mascaras! ;)

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yep , till start artifacting in Atitool/3Dmark (like always) :p:


regards

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Originally Posted by Monkeywoman

look at this man

i dont care how many patches they put out, the ball is in ATIs field to work on drivers. 8.5 and the performance will be there.

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"The most important game since the original Half Life" LOL

For crying out loud, this "game" is unplayable on ANY system in eye candy mode in HD rez.

And lats be real! if Half of NVIDIA's dev support team worked on this game, and it has build on NV hardware, do ATI Catalyst wizards have any chance to optimize their code for this tech demo... khm... game?

Only thing that can help is patches with appropriate shader code that will bring out best form ATI math heavy architecture... and if you imagine amount of money NVIDA have spend on Crysis, I sincerely doubt that will ever happen!

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Originally Posted by OBR

here in Europe costs 620 USD ... 420EUR ... maybe are spectacles better for you ...

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Wow you are getting robbed, here in sweden the cheapest X2 is
379 Euro or 556$.

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Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy

http://img3.pconline.com.cn/pconline...a128_thumb.jpg
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So what if it ass rapes an ultra.... try it against 8800GT SLi... :rofl: :owned:

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Originally Posted by DerekFSE

Doesnt that picture seem to suggest otherwise? Since the game was developed around the 8800, ATi can only do so much?

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NVIDIA's TWIMTBP program reared its ugly head again :down:

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Originally Posted by Raptor22

So what if it ass rapes an ultra.... try it against 8800GT SLi... :rofl: :owned:

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Power comsumption?
SLI board?
Price comparaison?
Even performance comparaison?

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Originally Posted by Raptor22

So what if it ass rapes an ultra.... try it against 8800GT SLi... :rofl: :owned:

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Which you could only do on a Nvidia chipped mobo. That would be a huge client base. :rofl: :owned:

Majority of the newer motherboards are based on Intel chipsets, so it really doesnt matter if 2 8800GT cards can beat a 3870X2. ATI will still sell crap load of cards. And if they get the scaling up to par with 2 3870X2 cards those 8800GT cards will mean completely nothing for the majority of users.

If Nvidia actually had larger share of the market with their buggy a$$ motherboards I would agree with you.

I love Ati, however I'm not sold on this....I will buy an x2 video card when they make it just like they make dualcore and quad cpu's...........the technologies there......the link would be instantaneous.......no need for the bridge......Thats really where the gpu market needs to head......screw these dual card setups and dual gpu's.......gimme a card with a dual core gpu or even a quad gpu in a single socket.....hell why not just make a socket with a removable gpu........sell the GPU seperately from the Graphic board..........works for the processor manufacturers.......

Heck why not just let us buy the stuff seperate, etc memory, gpu, graphics board.......we can tailor it to our own needs just like we do with the rest of the pc.....vid cards with ddr dimms and a socket.......

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Originally Posted by Raptor22

So what if it ass rapes an ultra.... try it against 8800GT SLi... :rofl: :owned:

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look at a review of 3870 cf against 8800gt sli.... the nvidia part is already owned price/performance/power :welcome:

http://en.expreview.com/?p=53

its funny how ATI keeps releasing cards that can only match the 8800 cards... which came out what... a year and a half ago?

this X2 will be interesting to see... but not much else.

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Originally Posted by HKPolice

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but Quad CF mode is not scaling properly so don't get your hopes up.

No surprise really, 7950GX2 quad was a joke as well.

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that was to be expected... tri sli scales poor too compared to the single to sli scaling, so scaling with four cards pretty much has to suck. Up to two gpu's works fine though in both camps.

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

its funny how ATI keeps releasing cards that can only match the 8800 cards... which came out what... a year and a half ago?

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ATI's goal is more to gain money and marketshare than to get the crown back I think and HD 3000 séries make the job :clap:

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Originally Posted by chew*

I love Ati, however I'm not sold on this....I will buy an x2 video card when they make it just like they make dualcore and quad cpu's...........the technologies there......the link would be instantaneous.......no need for the bridge......Thats really where the gpu market needs to head......screw these dual card setups and dual gpu's.......gimme a card with a dual core gpu or even a quad gpu in a single socket.....hell why not just make a socket with a removable gpu........sell the GPU seperately from the Graphic board..........works for the processor manufacturers.......

Heck why not just let us buy the stuff seperate, etc memory, gpu, graphics board.......we can tailor it to our own needs just like we do with the rest of the pc.....vid cards with ddr dimms and a socket.......

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You cant think on CPUs and GPUs like that. So they would never make such a dualcore or quad.

Anyway, socket is a good idea and possible. It was also up with the MXM boards. Memory is a bigger issue tho due to speed and latency. You simply cant have it in say a DIMM slot without huge penalties.

But imagine such a GFX card, it would basicly be a new mobo. So much more VRM modules and what not.

When we get fusion and value nehalem we are basicly starting from scratch again. With IGP performance (maybe x2 or x3) and build up from there.
Else the only options is MXM approach boards.