retail QX9650 first run -> 4400mhz on Intel cooler box

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11-15-2007, 06:30 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Trust me, PC knows what he is doing!...don't ever doubt that fact!
11-15-2007, 08:42 PM
oscar3d

So,to confirm what you achieved in your first run.
Did you put the FSB @ 440 and you upped the multiplier from 9 to 10?

Also excuse my ignorance, but what does genereate more heat, cranking up the multipier or the FSB.

I got an QX9650 coming tomorrow, so I'm looking for the perfect combination between multi X FSB and Vcore. What do you think is the sweetspot?
11-15-2007, 09:15 PM
rbsmontemor

Max. prime Prime95 @ Ultra-120 extreme plz :)

FSB tops out at 500Mhz? I want one Q9550 so bad :wth: But it's only x8,5 :(

Abraço, esperando seu post no forumpcs ;)

Rbs.
:wave:
11-15-2007, 09:32 PM
kayl

Very nice results.
What for of FSB can you boot at from bios?? not using FSB in windows for MAX FSB speeds??
11-15-2007, 09:39 PM
T_M

I just cant believe those air number :drool:
11-15-2007, 11:34 PM
ZilverPhish

:D Stock cooler with LED
11-16-2007, 02:37 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG87

PC the vcc max for yorkfields from the intel white paper is 1.45v.

1.65v is far far too much. in proportion its like running 1.7 - 1.8v through a 65nm. yes the temperatures are nice, thats because of the hi-k and low thermal dissipation, but you are completely destroying that cpu.

now that we have assessed your insanity, can you please show us the max overclock that is at least 1h prime stable. that would be awesome, cheers mate :clap:

sry my friend but I never asked for a safe voltage and I am not telling to anybody to use my settings .
I only want to do my work ;) and how Ace-a-Rue said -> I will not kill that chip.
anyway, thx for advice :)

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Originally Posted by JAG87

now that we have assessed your insanity, can you please show us the max overclock that is at least 1h prime stable. that would be awesome, cheers mate :clap:

just give me a hour my friend :)

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Originally Posted by oscar3d

Cool, now we need to know if we can push it to 4Ghz with the lowest VCORE possible.

Can you try that and tell us?

4ghz -> 1.4v(prime) or 1.35v -> boot

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Originally Posted by Loque

is it safe to run it at those high voltages even under low temperatures for 24/7 usage ?

of course no ,Its only for short benching

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Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De

Awesome results!!! Any problems with the mobo?

No ,only a little droop on vcore
11-16-2007, 02:52 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar3d

So,to confirm what you achieved in your first run.
Did you put the FSB @ 440 and you upped the multiplier from 9 to 10?

10 x 440 -> very easy

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Also excuse my ignorance, but what does genereate more heat, cranking up the multipier or the FSB.

depends
for higher FSB ->sometimes you will need more voltage on chipset or cpu settings = more heat :)

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I got an QX9650 coming tomorrow, so I'm looking for the perfect combination between multi X FSB and Vcore. What do you think is the sweetspot?

10 x 400 @ 4:5 (1.4 vcore) :D
11-16-2007, 03:05 AM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbsmontemor

Max. prime Prime95 @ Ultra-120 extreme plz :)

FSB tops out at 500Mhz? I want one Q9550 so bad :wth: But it's only x8,5 :(

Abraço, esperando seu post no forumpcs ;)

Rbs.
:wave:

I've reached the max clock on air and I do not think that Extreme 120 will make any difference

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Originally Posted by kayl

Very nice results.
What for of FSB can you boot at from bios?? not using FSB in windows for MAX FSB speeds??

thx mate
480 -> boot but I don't think its prime stable

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Originally Posted by T_M

I just cant believe those air number :drool:

San Ace Power :D

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2364/47151mpikq2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3...mhzcpuzbo8.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=268802
11-16-2007, 07:20 AM
JAG87

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

sry my friend but I never asked for a safe voltage and I am not telling to anybody to use my settings .
I only want to do my work ;) and how Ace-a-Rue said -> I will not kill that chip.
anyway, thx for advice :)

of course PC, I am just stating that in general for the public to know. some people might think that its ok to run 1.65v through 45nm because the temps are so much lower than 65nm. so im just warning people.

just give me a hour my friend :)

take all the time you want :up:

4ghz -> 1.4v(prime) or 1.35v -> boot

Interesting. I am trying to find out what kind of voltage levels it takes to be prime stable at 4G, 4.2G, and 4.4G. Those are going to be the numbers that I will end up with since I am going to use 400 FSB. I am hoping support for half multi comes soon because 4G to 4.4G is a big jump and I have a feeling that 4.4G prime stable wont happen, at least not with a voltage that I would run 24/7.

PS: 1.7v on air, gotta love it lol :D
11-16-2007, 08:32 AM
xgman

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Originally Posted by oscar3d

Anyone thinking of or already LAPPED a QX9650?

Is it worthy? I'm getting mine and I already got a lapped TRUE 120

I lapped mine last night just enough to see if it was concave or convex. It was actually pretty flat so I didn't shave the markings off of it alltogether, just gave it a little shine. ;)
11-16-2007, 08:34 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG87

PC the vcc max for yorkfields from the intel white paper is 1.45v.

1.65v is far far too much. in proportion its like running 1.7 - 1.8v through a 65nm. yes the temperatures are nice, thats because of the hi-k and low thermal dissipation, but you are completely destroying that cpu.

now that we have assessed your insanity, can you please show us the max overclock that is at least 1h prime stable. that would be awesome, cheers mate :clap:

What would you suggest on phase. I had been running my QX6850 at 1.61v. What would the equivilent on the 9650 be, 1.51-1.5v?
11-16-2007, 09:27 AM
Oliver

Looks really good ;).

Keep pushing it.
11-16-2007, 01:12 PM
PcCI2iminal

JAG87

as I had promised

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/570...4184mhzkw4.jpg

room temp -> 19c

xgman

for 24/7 I don`t think you need to push to that level
11-16-2007, 01:46 PM
railer

wow almost 4.8 on air with 4 cores. I know Vcore is high:D but this is much more then i expected these cpu's to do on air. The fact that it can handle this voltage and only be 40C on AIR is impressive.
Good job PC:up: . Cant wait to get a 8500. DC should clock even higher.
11-16-2007, 01:48 PM
hiwa

nice risults :) :) :up:
11-16-2007, 01:55 PM
JAG87

Quote:

Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

JAG87

as I had promised

room temp -> 19c

xgman

for 24/7 I don`t think you need to push to that level

Thank you very much! But is that as high as it goes with 1.48v ?

Sigh, I guess we have to be content with 4.2G, thats not bad after all. I love those temps, but more voltage would not be healthy for this cpu. Maybe try 1.5v and see how high you can go. I would never run more than that.
11-16-2007, 02:18 PM
CrashOv3r1De

Very nice results criminal :toast:

Is this going to be your new 24/7 setup or are you just doing this for a review/testing?

Also is MSRP for this cpu supposed to be $999? I assum nwegg and the other retailers are just raising the price due to low amount in stock. When is price expected to normalize?
11-16-2007, 03:08 PM
nachthymnen

Wowwwwwwww:eek:
Another York @ 4.7Ghz with aircooling:eek: :clap:
Fantastic result!!!
Can you share your GTL voltages setup for the 4.7ghz?:D :p:
11-16-2007, 03:23 PM
tvdang7

whats ur best with stock voltage?
11-16-2007, 06:49 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De

Very nice results criminal :toast:

Is this going to be your new 24/7 setup or are you just doing this for a review/testing?

Also is MSRP for this cpu supposed to be $999? I assum nwegg and the other retailers are just raising the price due to low amount in stock. When is price expected to normalize?

the $999 per cpu was for lots of 1000 processors...i think the starting price was 1199 for a retail OEM...i've seen lower prices at a few retailers who do not have them as of yet.
11-16-2007, 07:27 PM
oscar3d

I've just installed my QX9650

OMFG this DOESN'T look good...

This is with a P5E3 Deluxe with your suggested settings running a QX9650.

For those who wonder...

Note: This is with a Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme lapped and AS5 on top.

10 x 400 @ 1.4 VCORE

4GB DDR 3 running @ 1600 Mhz 9-9-9-24

http://www.3doracle.com/results.jpg

With stock settings: 9x333 @AUTO VCORE

Memory running @ 1333Mhz 9-9-9-24

http://www.3doracle.com/results2.jpg

Please tell me this is not happening, I've got a great cooled P182 with 3 fans, 1 intake and 2 exhausts.

Is this normal? I saw you getting up to 74C.

What temps are dangerous in this CPU?

Please help. I'm smoking cigarettes and eating my fingernails.
11-16-2007, 07:34 PM
JAG87

those are pretty bad temps... time for some watercooling maybe?
11-16-2007, 07:40 PM
oscar3d

No time or money extra for watercooling, but hey, didn't PcCI2Mininal, just posted temps with the QX9650 @ 4.1 Ghz, showing the Delta to T-Junction?

Look below...

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Originally Posted by PcCI2iminal

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2505/100vf0.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1374/116vi2.jpg

9.9XX secs on Intel cooler box :)

I assume then that this are not that bad temps after all...

Please let me know if this is right... I just feel too tired to take out the case again, take out the TRUE 120, clean/clean, reaply and re-install.

What's your oppinion pcCI2Minimal?
11-16-2007, 08:10 PM
oscar3d

Hey JAG87 I've noticed that you runned 41xxGhz with a multiplier of 11 and 380 FSB

Did that relaxed your temps? Because you got around 55C.

Does it affect performance to run a higher multiplier and less FSB?

Also I'm learning here. From my results above what you guys think AM I in danger?

reading:

"Measuring CPU Dual Core Temps"
Arthur Liberman - 10/27/06

page 2
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There are two more important values that have to be taken into account:

"TCaseMax: This value stands for the maximum temperature at the dead-center at the top of the processor core or the IHS which will ensure 100% stability and safety. "

"Tjunction (or TjunctionMax): This value stands for the maximum temperature at the junction between the processor die and the PCB it sits on, this is usually much higher than the TCaseMax value.

It is important not to confuse these two when reading the DTS temperature. If the DTS registers a temperature higher than TCaseMax, that doesn't mean the CPU is in danger, as the TCaseMax stands for the highest external temperature the CPU can take. On the other hand, when your chip reaches the Tjunction then you should start to worry, as that is a temperature you wouldn't want your CPU to cross.
It is possible to detect the Tjunction temperature in Intel CPUs and it is possible to detect the TCaseMax of Rev E AMD chips via software; unfortunately, I've yet to find the info on how to get TCaseMax for Intel chips or Tjunction for AMD (which is the most important).

What is surprising about the DTS is the ease of use. Traditional Super I/O chips demand you to program for each separate I/O chip, as they have different addresses and different formulas for calculation.

With DTS, all you need to do is read an MSR (in case of Intel) or an NB register (in case of AMD), run it through a simple formula and viola! You have your temperature! Here are the formulas:"

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