Shall I break NOW the 2k6 WR with the Yorkfield or shall I wait?

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10-10-2007, 01:37 AM
hipro5

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Originally Posted by BeardyMan

does this mean that you can give it more pci-e mhz as well?:D
are they in some way connected to each other?

Nope.....ATI's can handle way higher PCI-E frequency than NVIDIA's.....I have fed an 2900XT up to 170MHz PCI-E before it freezes....and benched it at 165MHz PCI-E.....;)
10-10-2007, 02:12 AM
T_M

My eyes are glued for these new mods :)
10-10-2007, 03:21 AM
George_o/c

George unfortunately if you look at my Location it says : Crete ... :( I know Athens is 30 min away (by plane of course :P), but what am I gonna do with school ? ... :) Uh never matter, next year ;) Give us the mods plz ... :woot:
10-10-2007, 03:57 AM
Sampsa

I hope you guys have a Yorkfield to play with since QX6850 @ 5,4 GHz won't be much fun :)
10-10-2007, 04:01 AM
Jigsaw

How much does overclocking the PCI-E slots help with 3D06 scores? And if it does, how far do you guys usually push them? I usually OC them about 10MHz.
10-10-2007, 04:46 AM
Harshal

I have seen 160MHz on PCI-E and it eaily completed 06 run!! I think it helps a lot but its more to do wid stability.. i guess. May be other knowing more will help clear it.
10-10-2007, 05:01 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13uber37

How much does overclocking the PCI-E slots help with 3D06 scores? And if it does, how far do you guys usually push them? I usually OC them about 10MHz.

with X38 probably nothing (at least on some asus boards that hicookie tested recently)
10-10-2007, 06:05 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

I hope you guys have a Yorkfield to play with since QX6850 @ 5,4 GHz won't be much fun :)

I hope so 2. If it is after the 11 Nov you should have :D
10-10-2007, 08:09 AM
NH|Delph1

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

with X38 probably nothing (at least on some asus boards that hicookie tested recently)

PCIe overclocking still matters with X38. With Radeon cards you can run it stable at at least 150 MHz on a good board and you will see a significant boost from it.

//Andreas
10-10-2007, 08:15 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

I hope you guys have a Yorkfield to play with since QX6850 @ 5,4 GHz won't be much fun :)

Yes, we will have a couple of them too....;) :)
10-10-2007, 08:19 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Yes, we will have a couple of them too....;) :)

Good, because when you once try Yorkfield, you don't want to go back to Kentsfield anymore :)
10-10-2007, 11:03 AM
rob[GL]

I also want to know, will Hipro be using his own power supply? Hehe
10-10-2007, 11:08 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob[GL]

I also want to know, will Hipro be using his own power supply? Hehe

One rig with the CF ATI VGAs and ASUS Blitz Extreme or ASUS P5E3 WS Pro (X38) will use our upcoming "comercial" 1200Watts and the rig with the ASUS Striker Extreme and the NVIDIA SLI, will use my personal 4500Watts PSU...;) :)
10-10-2007, 11:28 AM
Zeus

Only 4500watts? :eek:
10-10-2007, 11:36 AM
Jigsaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

One rig with the CF ATI VGAs and ASUS Blitz Extreme or ASUS P5E3 WS Pro (X38) will use our upcoming "comercial" 1200Watts and the rig with the ASUS Striker Extreme and the NVIDIA SLI, will use my personal 4500Watts PSU...;) :)

Building a 4500W PSU makes you uber 1337.
10-10-2007, 11:37 AM
Bigchrome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Only 4500watts? :eek:

That's all!

And Hipro I think you should break it now...Get respect for owning people with current gen, then amaze them with yorks.
10-10-2007, 02:33 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

PCIe overclocking still matters with X38. With Radeon cards you can run it stable at at least 150 MHz on a good board and you will see a significant boost from it.

//Andreas

Which X38 gives you the boost
you do know of the PCIe bug they have right??
10-10-2007, 02:57 PM
DMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigchrome

That's all!

And Hipro I think you should break it now...Get respect for owning people with current gen, then amaze them with yorks.

He can't get more then the one he already has:up:
10-10-2007, 09:54 PM
NH|Delph1

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

Which X38 gives you the boost
you do know of the PCIe bug they have right??

Maximus Formula worked quite nicely :)

//Andreas
10-10-2007, 11:03 PM
TraX

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

Which X38 gives you the boost
you do know of the PCIe bug they have right??

PCIe bug on the X38's? Can you enlighten me please :)
10-10-2007, 11:10 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Maximus Formula worked quite nicely :)

//Andreas

how did it scale in 3D???
have you compared results from 100 - 150 and what was the point difference

hicookie tested P5E3 from memory and there was absolutely NO points difference between 100 and 150MHz whereas on P35 based mobo there was 800 point different but i am not 100% sure what 3DMARK bench it was now and haven't got hicookie's thread handy here
10-10-2007, 11:10 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

:D

Think "CPU".... GPU acts like it.....So each core on each VGA needs less or higher VGPU....Problem WAS that the user couldn't know how much to feed it due to OVP protection.....Now he will know exactly how much it needs....;)

thanks mate

we need the mod for 20th Oct event here in Sydney :D
10-11-2007, 12:20 AM
Harshal

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

how did it scale in 3D???
have you compared results from 100 - 150 and what was the point difference

hicookie tested P5E3 from memory and there was absolutely NO points difference between 100 and 150MHz whereas on P35 based mobo there was 800 point different but i am not 100% sure what 3DMARK bench it was now and haven't got hicookie's thread handy here

Hi,
Dont know if Hi-cookie was aiming for better OC on cards or not.. just bunmping da PCIe clock wid same speed on Card(s) wont make your score go up. But I guess wid PCIe bumped one can see cards wid 920+ on 2900XTs in CF. Tho that surely makes SATA ports unusable.. one has to switch to old PCI RAID/IDE card.

As I mentioned above also.. I am no expert and may be Hipro or others who have tested X38 with CF can clear this. :)
10-11-2007, 12:44 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by harshal

Hi,
Dont know if Hi-cookie was aiming for better OC on cards or not.. just bunmping da PCIe clock wid same speed on Card(s) wont make your score go up. But I guess wid PCIe bumped one can see cards wid 920+ on 2900XTs in CF. Tho that surely makes SATA ports unusable.. one has to switch to old PCI RAID/IDE card.

As I mentioned above also.. I am no expert and may be Hipro or others who have tested X38 with CF can clear this. :)

ASUS P5E3 WS Pro (x38) and setfsb: When setfsb starts, shows 150MHz PCI-E whether in bios IS set at 120MHz PCI-E.....(A different PLL chip by a letter only on this mobo).
When I put it at 170MHz PCI-E, it will propably be ~ 140MHz actual (I will measure it when I'll put this mobo on again)....I didn't see any gain out of it to be honnest....
I have seen a small gain on the ASUS Blitz Exteme from 120PCI-E to 165PCI-E....2k5 ~ 150 marks more or so.....So I think that it's NOT like the good old days with the AGP..... :D
Another thing I have noticed is that the NVIDIAs on the Blitz, can handle up to 145MHz PCI-E, were the ATIs can handle 165MHz PCI-E.....

Overclockability of the CF?......Let's say that IF I leave the bios setting at 120MHz PCI-E, I can run the bench with the VGAs at their "edge" on air BUT when I put it via setfsb at 135 - 140 -145 - 150 - 155 - 160 - 165, some times VGAs are rebooting the system....No more MHz out of them by raising the PCI-E....
10-11-2007, 01:06 AM
Harshal

Thanks for dat long post, Hipro :)
Clears a lot of things about PCIe and X38.

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