Radeon HD 2900 XT vs. 320MB 8800 GTS

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06-14-2007, 06:21 AM
sladesurfer

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Originally Posted by insurgent

Is techspot credible? I honestly have no idea.

no one is credible unless you test it yourself :up:
06-14-2007, 06:39 AM
Cybercat

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Originally Posted by Mav451

You are really showing your computer age here. Tom's is a site with many skeletons in its closet, not just it's anti-AMD/pro-Intel spin. If you remember the controversy between Tom and Van then maybe you'd understand why people don't read Tom's. Tom's also had a highly condescending and smug article written against AMD users who challenged him on the BAPCo 2002 benchmark.

I'm also leaving out the fact that Tom essentially sold-out on many reviews for the benefit of ad money. I'm in the camp that once you've sold-out, it scars your reputation for life. It's for the same reason I no longer trust Anandtech. He wasn't a sell-out until Conroe, but since then it seems much of his writing is "double-talk".

That's ridiculously. Is it unfathomable for you to think that maybe, just maybe AMD's CPUs are actually losing to Intel's right now?
06-14-2007, 06:54 AM
Mav451

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Originally Posted by Cybercat

That's ridiculously. Is it unfathomable for you to think that maybe, just maybe AMD's CPUs are actually losing to Intel's right now?

Of course it's not unfathomable - I know AMD is losing atm. But the thing is that I'd already been losing trust in Anandtech for quite a while, I've grown to rely on Tech Report above all others.
06-14-2007, 07:19 AM
mascaras

Hardocp + 7.4 driver :rolleyes:

regards
06-14-2007, 07:29 AM
Tim

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Originally Posted by xlink

well, the 8600s came late and they were definitely underperforming...

And from what we can see so far, is that the 2600XT, coming months later, isn't even going to beat the 8600GTS. ;)
06-14-2007, 07:36 AM
GoThr3k

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Originally Posted by Tim

And from what we can see so far, is that the 2600XT, coming months later, isn't even going to beat the 8600GTS. ;)

just like x2900XT doenst beat the GTX
Price of 2600XT will be lower than GTS
and 2600XT wil beat the GT
So whats the problem?
06-14-2007, 07:58 AM
Tim

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Originally Posted by GoThr3k

just like x2900XT doenst beat the GTX
Price of 2600XT will be lower than GTS
and 2600XT wil beat the GT
So whats the problem?

The problem is that all of the sudden it isn't about performance anymore, it's about price. lol
06-14-2007, 08:03 AM
DoubleZero

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Originally Posted by insurgent

Is techspot credible? I honestly have no idea.

Have no idea, first result on google... :)
06-14-2007, 08:11 AM
XS2K

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Originally Posted by GoThr3k

Price of 2600XT will be lower than GTS
and 2600XT wil beat the GT
So whats the problem?

Huh?What version's are we talking about,X2600XT GDDR4 that is aimed to compete with 8600GTS or X2600XT GDDR3 that is aimed to compete with 8600GT cuz 8600GT cost 125$ and it seems that X2600XT GDDR3 is ~145$:confused:
Anyway both cards 8600GTS/X2600XT GDDR4 basically suck and are beaten by the previos generation of cards here is a good example of that bigger performance smaller or the same price...
06-14-2007, 08:24 AM
gdogg

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Originally Posted by Tim

The problem is that all of the sudden it isn't about performance anymore, it's about price. lol

I think most of us can agree. It has always been about the price/performance ratio.

Us overclockers, even include the overclocking potential into the equation.
06-14-2007, 08:52 AM
DilTech

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Originally Posted by insurgent

Is techspot credible? I honestly have no idea.

No, they're not... I've shown why already on EOCF.
06-14-2007, 09:47 AM
nicepun

Subscribed -- I get bored @ work @ times..LOL
06-14-2007, 09:53 AM
MichelinGuy

Maybe... the guy that wrote that review is the brother of Fud!
06-14-2007, 09:56 AM
DilTech

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Kinda scary that some AMD fanbois now produce or publish misleading screenshots to make it sound better.

Makes you wonder about some of these other claims of better performance then what reviews tell you, now doesn't it? :shocked:

Seriously though, this kind of thing should not be tolerated on this site. Blatantly faking performance numbers, and even trying to get away with it with screen shots hoping no one would notice? Does anyone know who really passed these off as real in the first place? :sick:
06-14-2007, 10:16 AM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by DilTech

Makes you wonder about some of these other claims of better performance then what reviews tell you, now doesn't it? :shocked:

Seriously though, this kind of thing should not be tolerated on this site. Blatantly faking performance numbers, and even trying to get away with it with screen shots hoping no one would notice? Does anyone know who really passed these off as real in the first place? :sick:

Dude, you seriously sound like the most broken record ever and your constant 2900 biased bashing is what's really bringing that :sick: feeling.
06-14-2007, 10:19 AM
DilTech

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Originally Posted by LowRun

Dude, you seriously sound like the most broken record ever and your constant 2900 biased bashing is what's really bringing that :sick: feeling.

It's not bashing, I'm serious... If someone is passing off fake numbers to other people, which is in turn misleading them(I'd call them out on it regardless of what brand was in his pc), then that is something that should be dealt with.

Are you telling me I'm wrong for calling someone out for doing this?
06-14-2007, 10:26 AM
Krizby87

Lol if there were a survey on "the type of guy/girl you would date" I surely believe ATI fanboy would rank in very high :D. I mean they are very patient people, waiting 6 months for a product and probably another 6 months for drivers so it can perform on par with another product came out a year ago. In addition they are very forgiving and will believe just about every thing you say (once they idolized you).

ah crap after writing this I realize I don't have a gf yet >_>. Gotta make myself an ATI fan quick.
06-14-2007, 10:31 AM
nicepun

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Originally Posted by Krizby87

Lol if there were a survey on "the type of guy/girl you would date" I surely believe ATI fanboy would rank in very high :D. I mean they are very patient people, waiting 6 months for a product and probably another 6 months for drivers so it can perform on par with another product came out a year ago. In addition they are very forgiving and will believe just about every thing you say (once they idolized you).

ah crap after writing this I realize I don't have a gf yet >_>. Gotta make myself an ATI fan quick.

Very good but don't forget the 12" Long hardware...LOL o.k. 9.5" now...:rofl:
06-14-2007, 10:31 AM
gdogg

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Originally Posted by Krizby87

Lol if there were a survey on "the type of guy/girl you would date" I surely believe ATI fanboy would rank in very high :D. I mean they are very patient people, waiting 6 months for a product and probably another 6 months for drivers so it can perform on par with another product came out a year ago. In addition they are very forgiving and will believe just about every thing you say (once they idolized you).

ah crap after writing this I realize I don't have a gf yet >_>. Gotta make myself an ATI fan quick.

Or if your a reference 680i owner, you have to be patient and will be able to handle, buying a girl dinner, her leaving before the meal gets to the table, then dating her when she calls 2 months later says, I think it will work now.

Then after 6 months of breaking your :banana::banana::banana::banana:, she will blame it on you, and get someone important to agree with her.

and come month 8, her non-identical twin will come by, and give you her number, and you live happily ever after lol.

The old one, even set you two up, and offered you a trade in, but its all good now, cause the twin doesn't break your :banana::banana::banana::banana:, but if she does, its still your fault, with improtant people telling you the same thing.
06-14-2007, 11:00 AM
0mega1

Before anyone else unfoundedly screams BIAS...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...ight=party+amd

im not going to bother reading this thread... almost everyone here is too stuck up and ignorant to the opinions of others for me to gain anything from reading this thread...
06-14-2007, 11:20 AM
Clairvoyant129

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Originally Posted by Mav451

You are really showing your computer age here. Tom's is a site with many skeletons in its closet, not just it's anti-AMD/pro-Intel spin. If you remember the controversy between Tom and Van then maybe you'd understand why people don't read Tom's. Tom's also had a highly condescending and smug article written against AMD users who challenged him on the BAPCo 2002 benchmark.

I'm also leaving out the fact that Tom essentially sold-out on many reviews for the benefit of ad money. I'm in the camp that once you've sold-out, it scars your reputation for life. It's for the same reason I no longer trust Anandtech. He wasn't a sell-out until Conroe, but since then it seems much of his writing is "double-talk".

I guess you have some kind of a evidence to show that Anand is an Intel paid pumper? I do agree that Toms is biased when it comes to writing reviews (very obvious from how they word their articles), however you claiming Anand is an Intel paid pumper without any evidence is ignorant. What's your evidence that Anand is paid pumper? Their articles that show Core 2s outperforming K8s by 25%+? Oh wait, every tech sites came up with the same conclusion. I would like to add that Dailytech is not part of Anand so don't confuse them.

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Overall, the performance advantage still goes to Intel's Core 2 lineup but there are a few situations where the performance between the two families is close enough to be considered a tie. There are also the outlier cases where the Athlon 64 X2 actually ends up faster than the Core 2

Anand is soo biased. :rolleyes:
06-14-2007, 12:19 PM
Mav451

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Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129

Anand is soo biased. :rolleyes:

I'm just saying that you should pay attention to the way he words things -- especially when Barky launches (as a certain Intel fanboy on [H] calls it). If he judges it impartially, as he used to, I'll take back what I said.

We probably have at least 4 months till that happens though :(
06-14-2007, 12:24 PM
red

Is it that hard to prove Anandtech bias? :confused: Not even a quote or a link...
06-14-2007, 10:55 PM
oohms

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Originally Posted by 0mega1

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...ight=party+amd

lol what a sausage fest :p:
06-15-2007, 01:29 AM
ahmad

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Originally Posted by 0mega1

Before anyone else unfoundedly screams BIAS...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...ight=party+amd

im not going to bother reading this thread... almost everyone here is too stuck up and ignorant to the opinions of others for me to gain anything from reading this thread...

Bias doesn't have to be intentional, it comes from ignorance too.

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