OK, so what do you do if you have to buy a new board right now? Do you pay more for a maybe not very good P35 board, or do you buy a cheaper and kick-ass P965 board like the DFI or QuadGT and hope that somehow they will support Penryn? :confused:
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OK, so what do you do if you have to buy a new board right now? Do you pay more for a maybe not very good P35 board, or do you buy a cheaper and kick-ass P965 board like the DFI or QuadGT and hope that somehow they will support Penryn? :confused:
haven't heard of any current P965 board with VRM required to run Penryns:confused:
Wasn't one of the points of this thread that the VRM for Penryn is in fact the same as for Conroe (VRM 11.0) and only Nehalem will need an update to 11.1? In that case what's to stop people modding the BIOS to support Penryn, even if Intel and mobo manufacturers won't offer official support?
little birdie was not 100% clear whether all 680i boards have VRM 11.1......so i can't answer that question...
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12619
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Ragones told me existing nForce 600-series mobos already support Intel's upcoming 45nm Penryn processors and 1333MHz front-side bus speeds.
Thanks FLG Poncho.
You heard it guys, no need to argue the point any longer :horse:
I want to see Intel official statement before I believe it.
But apart from the fact that 680 runs penryn fine, we still dont know anything, right? Its still not clear if it runs on 965 or 975 :/
This is what I have been able to gather, Intel demoed Penryn initially on 975 or 965, the P35 has official support, and with this rumor (and it is currently a rumor as I understand), it appears that the VRM 11.0 spec for Penryn is valid... I have not noticed anything official from Intel though....Quote:
Originally Posted by Neon Biker
Jack
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Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho
Thank you very much FLG_Poncho, it is greatly appreciated :D
FLP_Poncho -- thanks for clearing it up.
Thank you very much for your statement. So Penryn will work fine on all 1333FSB mainboards that have a updated Bios/CPLD.Quote:
Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho
That should put an end to all the speculation.
Yeah, we pretty much knew that already. The question remains which boards (if any) will have official support and if they won't will someone be able to do a BIOS mod? :confused:
EVGATech_JacobF has confirmed that EVGA will be releasing the BIOS needed to run Penryn on the 680i.
http://evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=57172 post #13 sums it all up :)
now I hope that the p5n32-e plus supports penryn and gets a new bios update.
what about the p5n-e sli?
good to see an Intel guy confirming older VRM spec works provided bioses support the newer CPUs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho
someone needs to update your account status too i think ;) :)
...so now that the ball is in the motherboard makers' court; i'd say fat chance...unless the mobo makers want to keep selling "old" 965/975/680 motherboards.
i'd give it a 50/50 chance of a bios update at this point in time.
if there is a higher marketshare in 965/975/680/650 boards over newer p35/38 boards then it would make sense to make the older boards compatible with newer intel chips... but that's just wot i think.
i dont think there is a big enough performance difference with penryn chips to "force" everyone to dump their old platforms for a p35/38...
i'd say the mainstream does not turf out a computer once a year, but could easily be tempted into plopping in another faster cpu; but that's the whole point of this thread is it not?
dumping an old mobo isnt that much of a big deal these days cos most of them cost less than a mid-to high-end cpu.
intel should be promoting wide compatibility with new cpu's to increase sales, while i would think that mobo makers will probably be trying to sell more new boards...but to the mobo manufacturers; i dont think they could care less what they sell, but that they sell XX thousands of YY units at ZZ price.
If the majority of buyers already have 965/975/680, then i doubt whether they will go out of their way to kill off p35/38 sales.
if you have a relative product monopoly you can treat the customers like offal and what can the customer do? they can either buy it or not buy it.
i don't think there will be too many of them jumping into Penryn support
afterall they have to sell newer ones coming out :rolleyes:
Do you think there will be many jumping into Barcelona support? According to Anand, there will be lots of heavy BIOS tweaking to accomodate, while for Penryn, BIOS is only updated for recognition.
i thought barcelona was to be compatible with existing AM2 boards.
....but i havent heard anyting about a new nvidia SLI chipset for Intel Penryn.
I think there is a new Nvidia SLI chipset planned for Phenom, but havent heard any details
Barcelona will be with BIOS update. So will Penryn. Penryn BIOS updates are said to be only to recognize the CPU.
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3006
AMD's partners just recently received their first "production quality" Barcelona samples, and as expected, the current boards required some heavy BIOS work before the new chips would even work, much less perform up to the expectations set by AMD.
Cool makes me happy I went with the EVGA 680i A1:D
I so hope your wrong on that dinos22, as there will be alot of peed off people that paid $450+(aud) for there 680i boards.Quote:
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Thats good that atleast one company is coming on board or out in the open to say they are supporting it. I just hope Gigabyte get off there backsides and do something abort the GA-N680SLi(rev1) board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Esau