Top one, verticlally. Have inlet at top and outlet at bottom.
Less stagnent water.
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Top one, verticlally. Have inlet at top and outlet at bottom.
Less stagnent water.
Ah I see.... ok my suggestion.... mount it the way its supposed to be mounted. Then just mod the case so it sits sideways. ;)
i dont think that gravity will make a big difference, especially in a closed waterblock and with a rather powerfull pump (how much gph again?)
and yeah, like you said dude, mounting will be easier and better the toher way. horizontally the mounting holes fit best, one above and one under the hose fittings on each site.
can you post pix from the side and from inside the block? what angles did you choose for the hose fittings to blow the water on the core?
i think you get the best performence with the hose fitting where the water enters the block beeing as long as possible, so the water hits the core directly and does not get moved around with the water that is already in the waterblock and eventually looses pressure and warms up a bit. hope you get what i mean :D
lol....mounting mod is not difficult to do...will do it if everyone agrees that #1 is best. It was my pick also but always good to do a little "storming" first. Once the block is mounted to CPU, it ain't coming off...ever! :D
how big is the hole in the waterblock? i mean how much room for water is inside the block? if its like the waterblock you showed us pix of before, the there will be a lot of turbulences if you mount it horizontally.
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Originally posted by saaya
i dont think that gravity will make a big difference, especially in a closed waterblock and with a rather powerfull pump (how much gph again?)
and yeah, like you said dude, mounting will be easier and better the toher way. horizontally the mounting holes fit best, one above and one under the hose fittings on each site.
can you post pix from the side and from inside the block? what angles did you choose for the hose fittings to blow the water on the core?
i think you get the best performence with the hose fitting where the water enters the block beeing as long as possible, so the water hits the core directly and does not get moved around with the water that is already in the waterblock and eventually looses pressure and warms up a bit. hope you get what i mean :D
Well...I'm starting off with an old inline pump I have...don't even know the flow on it, but will be moving to an 800 gph submerged soon.
If you look at the very 1st post you can see angle and insides of block...it will hit directly on the die. That's an old Luefkin block that had a peltier under it...peltier sat directly on die.
ok bud this is my opinion.
1 change the fitting to a 45degree so the coolant hoses are going straight to the board.
2 send the coolant from bottom to top......in bottom out top....why you ask? you know i have a good reason.....:D
you see there well be almost no way possable to remove the air bubbles any other way.from the side you will have air trapped in the upper part.and with coolant going top to bottom you will still have hard trouble getting the air out.
only reasonable mount it in bottom out top.
by the way i got you the second block on the way.cost me more but i got the bid.as soon as i get it i will ship straight to you my friend:D
It's better to have inlet at the top and oulet in the bottom, you won't prevent the creation of a pool in either situation (horizontaly or vertically) but it looks like the one when mounted horizontaly will hold less water.Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
Keep in mind that incoming and outgoing can be setup either way also and is having the water "pool" at the bottom a bad thing?
IIRC my thermodynamics, turbulent water removes more heat than linear
I wondered about this, that's why I said to keep in mind about in and out orientation...as long as the pump is up to it, it should work. I understand your reasons for that, but why the 45 degree outlets? Just to keep the hose unkinked?Quote:
Originally posted by bowman1964
ok bud this is my opinion.
1 change the fitting to a 45degree so the coolant hoses are going straight to the board.
2 send the coolant from bottom to top......in bottom out top....why you ask? you know i have a good reason.....:D
you see there well be almost no way possable to remove the air bubbles any other way.from the side you will have air trapped in the upper part.and with coolant going top to bottom you will still have hard trouble getting the air out.
only reasonable mount it in bottom out top.
by the way i got you the second block on the way.cost me more but i got the bid.as soon as i get it i will ship straight to you my friend:D
I checked the auction and thought we got out bidded by about a buck and some change! That's great...changes everything! Now I can mount my cracked one on a dead chip for practice and the good one for the real thing! Great news and right on time!:D
hmmm you can run the water in bottom, out top first to get the bubbles out and then change the hoses on your pump! :)
dude, send me an email to , so i can send you a drawing of what i meant with have one of the hose fittings longer. i would post the drawing, but i dont have the upload image option in this forum for some reason :(
well i noticed if you ran the unit up and down the lower hose ran close to the chipset or may have been too close to the video card.Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
. but why the 45 degree outlets? Just to keep the hose unkinked?
by using the 45's it would straighten out the hoses and have them go straight into the board.
but if you dont have the problem of hoses running close,just use what you have.
was just a idea if you were having clearance problems:D
I understand your logic, but agree with Bowman that this would be an excellent way to "purge" the closed loop. I was thinking about putting a T somewhere or something, but forcing it out of the block would work just fine. :DQuote:
Originally posted by antipop
It's better to have inlet at the top and oulet in the bottom, you won't prevent the creation of a pool in either situation (horizontaly or vertically) but it looks like the one when mounted horizontaly will hold less water.
IIRC my thermodynamics, turbulent water removes more heat than linear
OIC...don't know which board I will be using yet...just placed it on that one for orientation in pic. When I decide on a board, I will check clearances. :DQuote:
Originally posted by bowman1964
well i noticed if you ran the unit up and down the lower hose ran close to the chipset or may have been too close to the video card.
by using the 45's it would straighten out the hoses and have them go straight into the board.
but if you dont have the problem of hoses running close,just use what you have.
was just a idea if you were having clearance problems:D
one thing i want you to consider:D
you know how i like to improve things a little,well think about this small but i believe very very effective trip to try.
the fitting going in to the block.take a piece of copper tubing and solder a extension to the inside of the fitting.then trim it flat to the cpu core giving yourself a gap between 1/8 to 3/16" clearance over the cpu core.
now this well keep the stream going straight and will assure the flow and tubulance to the core.because the coolant inside the block will impead the flow to the core directly unless it is shielded from the rest.
i am brainstorming,,,,,now my head hurts ...too much:D
Excellent! Will do! :D
I wish this block was transparent! Very hard to measure and see how it's fitting! Since I now have a good spare, I'm thinking of cutting the left side of the block off completely so I can have a cross section view of the interior when mounted on cpu. :D
Next one build it with plexi :) So it would be transparent
you can take some modeling clay and put some over the core,then press the block down so you can see how and if any imprints are left in the clay.it may be the only way to get a idea of how well it is fitting.Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
I wish this block was transparent! Very hard to measure and see how it's fitting! Since I now have a good spare, I'm thinking of cutting the left side of the block off completely so I can have a cross section view of the interior when mounted on cpu. :D
Good idea Bowman, but I would still depend too much on lucking out. It would actually have to touch it and then I could take some off. I think I will cut a cross section, then I can see with my own eyes and measure exactly. Besides, it will make a cool display.
Thanks to you hanging in there at the auction, I can hack my bad block up. :D
My 2 cents..........
Who says you have to use water for this.
How about some solution that is circuit Safe?
Yano the solution you submerse your motherboard in.
Die-electric solution...
Wheels a spinning....
We can find a better way to cool CPU than Prommie(cheaper)
** Im a Dreamer **
Liquid Nitrogen ???????????????????????????
Sprocket,
Obviously you have not read the previous posts. I have such a solution coming to test next week and the final test is to submerge an entire mobo in this oil. :D
SWEET!
hey dude check this out... not too much infos but maybe you can email him :)
http://www.viperlair.com/articles/ho...2/ecm2_1.shtml