Official 8800 Ultra Review Discussion Thread

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04-30-2007, 10:44 AM
bro20000

When do theses come out i need one!
04-30-2007, 10:46 AM
Kunaak

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

There is what, not quite 600 points difference on 3dmark05 and less than 500 points in 3dmark06, yet the bar is 10x long? ROFL

its a simple psychological trick some review websites use.
they know, big bars, and big numbers easily fool those not more knowlegable of what they are reading.

so when making the graphs, all they did was make the base line 12,900...
so the scores look ridiculous.

the truth of the 8800 Ultra, is it's just a slightly overclocked 8800 GTX, which can easily be beaten, with a small volt mod, and some better cooling.
04-30-2007, 10:46 AM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by end3rkid

Just remind that R600XT (same as XTX since they're just the same only differ the 1GB GDDR4) is gonna match only with 8600 model, so, I think is worthless compare these cards.

8600? not that bad, I heard R600 = 8800GTS or so, not the 8600.
04-30-2007, 10:47 AM
n00b 0f l337

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2719/true1ny8.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2153/true2vj8.jpg
Graph man to the rescue!
04-30-2007, 10:47 AM
end3rkid

Lol, 600 points looks like 130,000 points on the 05

Another fixed graphic.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/4792/sshot64eb5.png
04-30-2007, 10:51 AM
wickedld9

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I fixed it for them... much better now! OMG Ultra!!!!! That's so worth $1,000.:rolleyes:
04-30-2007, 10:52 AM
triple_A

LOL
thats pathetic..
04-30-2007, 10:52 AM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by Lane-k

If you have a 8800GTX.. you have allready one.. flash your bios with 0.05V more and put same speed..

B-b-b-but you don't get the cooler looking cooler! :p:
dang that sounded redundant lol
04-30-2007, 10:53 AM
HiJon89

"WolStame, May 2, 2007" :confused:

And the best by far is this graph, which accurately represents a 156 point difference (a 1.27% increase)
http://fabu.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/20.../011/SLI05.swf
04-30-2007, 10:58 AM
syne_24

lol yea it's just the illusion that makes the scaling looks a lot higher. Good marketing strategy tho, because you can't say it's false data, just easily false interpretation.
04-30-2007, 10:58 AM
NapalmV5

death to R600? those bars clearly show death to gtx :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

its a simple psychological trick some review websites use.
they know, big bars, and big numbers easily fool those not more knowlegable of what they are reading.

so when making the graphs, all they did was make the base line 12,900...
so the scores look ridiculous.

the truth of the 8800 Ultra, is it's just a slightly overclocked 8800 GTX, which can easily be beaten, with a small volt mod, and some better cooling.

believe it or not, it is top reason why i havent read a review in years
04-30-2007, 11:02 AM
end3rkid

Quote:

Originally Posted by CandymanCan

Err the R600XT is more like a 8800GTS not a 8600. 2x8600's dont even compare to a single 8800GTS. Almost but not really The r600XT is in the almost to similer range against a 8800GTS.

The 8600's are just well slow as dirt compared to it

Well, I was trying to say the entire 8600 line.
04-30-2007, 11:05 AM
Kunaak

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Originally Posted by NapalmV5

believe it or not, it is top reason why i havent read a review in years

yeah, theres alot of very misleading review sites out there, but there are some ones that will not mislead you, with crazy stuff like this 8800 Ultra review is trying to do.

sites I watch regularly...

anandtech, techpowerup, and Xbitlabs.
I would include Hard OCP in the mix, but honestly, thier choice of the squiggle graphs make the data so unreadable, that I cant bother doing any more then skimming over the data... then looking for a site with graphs and such, that are actually useful to me.

theres a few others, but these are the main ones I like.
reviews like this one here are purposefully misleading so they sell the hardware...
04-30-2007, 11:08 AM
Lane-k

I ask me how many minutes and the numbers of developper have work on the conception of this GPU... i think 5 minutes for flash the bios, 1 hours for get all prices for find the most cheap but accurate cooler.. ( i will joke my boss a long time with this..) how many, 700$ the GPu?

i stop the joke ..Anyway if they have use better quality for component, select the best chips... can be the best for OC..

I have read paper launch is fixed on 2th May.. one thing is sure Nvidia know what they do for marketing and publicity.. right the same day when NDA of AMD/ATI end...
04-30-2007, 11:13 AM
Kunaak

I think one actual notable difference between the Ultra and GTX might be memory used.

this review states that the Ultra uses .8 NS ram, to get that 2.2 ghz mem speed, while the GTX uses 1.0 NS (if I recall right)... so theoretically, the Ultra should be alot more clockable on the memory, then the GTX is...
04-30-2007, 11:18 AM
fornowagain

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Originally Posted by Baron

Ahh yes so there is.

Nice timing there aswell fornowagain. :)

Great minds and all that.
04-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Gorgul

This Card is the best GPU in the World till the end of 2007 kills the R600 with ease.

It overclocks very well 720mhz Core@ air. No normal 8800GTX will go that high ATI has a big problem.

http://directupload.com/files/0yyzmogh2dzxmemymdku.jpg

http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-758018-1-1.html

http://fabu.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/20...C_8649-01a.jpg
04-30-2007, 11:20 AM
WillyWonka

Only +4% ? :rofl:

Can the first person to buy one please post a pic of themselves so I can :rofl: at you.

TIA
04-30-2007, 11:26 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

I think one actual notable difference between the Ultra and GTX might be memory used.

this review states that the Ultra uses .8 NS ram, to get that 2.2 ghz mem speed, while the GTX uses 1.0 NS (if I recall right)... so theoretically, the Ultra should be alot more clockable on the memory, then the GTX is...

It also says it has a lower TDP at higher frequencies then the GTX, using improved transistor design. If its true, a core revision may also help the OC.
04-30-2007, 11:29 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

It also says it has a lower TDP at higher frequencies then the GTX, using improved transistor design. If its true, a core revision may also help the OC.

Its possible. TDP went from 177W to 175W from that statement though.
04-30-2007, 11:39 AM
wickedld9

All I have been able think about since seeing the specs and price of this card is the 6800 Ultra Extreme. The only company that sold these in any amount was eVGA and it was at least 5 months after launch that they sold them freely. Prior to having them posted for sale to all, you had to register to win a chance to purchase one, they had one drawing per month...
04-30-2007, 11:44 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

Its possible. TDP went from 177W to 175W from that statement though.

Ooooo a whole 2W :p:
04-30-2007, 11:51 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Ooooo a whole 2W :p:

2W less at a higher frequency with core voltage bump (power at v squared). So maybe its not just binned cores.
04-30-2007, 11:59 AM
m0da

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiJon89

"WolStame, May 2, 2007" :confused:

And the best by far is this graph, which accurately represents a 156 point difference (a 1.27% increase)
http://fabu.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/20.../011/SLI05.swf

WOW. Did they label that graph correctly?
Could there be only a 156 point difference between SLI and single??

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