Long time no see...NVIDIA 8800GTX testing.

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01-05-2007, 11:43 PM
hipro5

Thanks guys...:)

Vince I haven't played with shader clocks at all and haven't search it yet.....For the time been, I'm just learning the VGAs and the mobo....:)
01-05-2007, 11:57 PM
zakelwe

All these RAM timings Hipro is putting up is making me wonder whether my 3-3-3 1T is actually that good . I'll now have to try more permutations.

Good luck

Regards

Andy
01-06-2007, 12:18 AM
hipro5

Actually 3-3-3-x with good subtimes AND 1:1 is good.....at ~50MHz more than 4-2-2-x....;)
I mean that when I will bench (hopefully with this mobo) at 5400MHz+ and ~416MHz 4-2-2-x, I'll need at least 470MHz of 3-3-3-x to much it....The x12 multi allows me to bench at 450MHz and 3-3-3-1....No thanks....4-2-2-X for me....:D

EDIT: A note > above 450MHz with this chipset, I've noticed it artifacting in 3D nomatter what ram modules I have used/Vdimm/or timmings.....This is happening with the 1T only...
01-06-2007, 12:30 AM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Actually 3-3-3-x with good subtimes AND 1:1 is good.....at ~50MHz more than 4-2-2-x....;)
I mean that when I will bench (hopefully with this mobo) at 5400MHz+ and ~416MHz 4-2-2-x, I'll need at least 470MHz of 3-3-3-x to much it....The x12 multi allows me to bench at 450MHz and 3-3-3-1....No thanks....4-2-2-X for me....:D

EDIT: A note > above 450MHz with this chipset, I've noticed it artifacting in 3D nomatter what ram modules I have used/Vdimm/or timmings.....This is happening with the 1T only...

Just been testing it outside in the shed and the 2-2 does seem to be the big deal ..of course my cheap memory modules will not run 2-2 so 2-2 must be good :D I got no improvement going from cas 4 to cas 3 so it looks as if I will have to tighten up the subtimings and do lots of tests. Hope my wife does not mind me being missing all Saturday :)

Thanks for putting the screenies up, makes it easy for us Lazyboys to get an idea from all your hardwork :toast:

Regards

Andy
01-06-2007, 12:47 AM
hipro5

Yes Cas 4 to Cas 3 is not a big deal......and play with your wife this Saturday instead of mobo....;) :D
01-06-2007, 01:30 AM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Yes Cas 4 to Cas 3 is not a big deal......and play with your wife this Saturday instead of mobo....;) :D

The wife has had to go back for RMA ( making funny noises every time I did any overclocking ) so I have been out in the shed :D

Wow the sub timnings really make a difference

2M superPi 3-3-3-4 lax subtimings = 36.453s
2M superPi 3-3-3-4 tight subtimings = 34.515s

There's me been thinking it was not worth the effort as they were only subtimings. That's why I'm not cut out to be topdog overclocker .. do not try everything and anything to see what it does :)

My crucial memory which is very cheap and rated 4-4-4 at 800Mhz 2.2v is doing 3-3-3 1T 840 at 2.5v so not bad for a set of none specialized standard memory.Only cost me £100. I guess one day I should buy something a bit better though.

Regards

Andy

PS When are you going LN2 ?
01-06-2007, 03:03 AM
kemo

1.22K in nature on air with LN2 100K will fall once more for sure
01-06-2007, 10:47 AM
hipro5

Some updates on 2k6......fsb is TOO BAD in those quads.......:(

One good thing is that this mobo gives another strap below 1400 fsb(350MHz) and the latency of the rams are quite good.....IF I could play at 400MHz 1:1 under LN2 with this CPU I would be happy...:D

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...633_1036_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...633_1036_2.png

COMPARE 2k6 URL...

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01-06-2007, 12:21 PM
Gautam

Nice testing hipro, I was wondering when you'd start running tRCD 2. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

All these RAM timings Hipro is putting up is making me wonder whether my 3-3-3 1T is actually that good . I'll now have to try more permutations.

Good luck

Regards

Andy

In 3D, I must say 3-3-3 is very competitive. No longer have Fatties, but I tried 410x10 1:1 4-2-2-1 against 3-3-3-8 on GMH in 2001SE. The 4-2-2-1 did win...but by under 50 points, both in the 72k range...very close.

My preference when all is said and done goes to the GMH, but they're both very close when tuned correctly. The GMH will always win in longer Pi calculations though, if that matters.
01-06-2007, 01:16 PM
Gautam

Yeah, for some reason those sticks didn't seem to like CAS 3 so much. 4-2-2-x is where they were happiest. (Good to about 450MHz with 2.65v)
01-06-2007, 01:40 PM
DEVIL K-ce

Quote:

Originally Posted by PallMall

I did some testing on my p5b dx
and 4-2-2 seems to be slower then 4-4-4...by 0.2 :stick:
stock clocks drr 333
21.156 vs 21.328

is that normal?:D

Yes
P5B Dlx have more perf. with 4-4-4-4. 4-4-3-X and 4-3-3-X ... is slower.

Wonderfull mobo :p:

ps. my Ballistix not can do any timinigs and MHz with 1T (2.5V not help ) :confused: Tried 800 4-4-4-12 1T and bsod :slap:
01-06-2007, 01:47 PM
Gautam

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEVIL K-ce

Yes
P5B Dlx have more perf. with 4-4-4-4. 4-4-3-X and 4-3-3-X ... is slower.

Wonderfull mobo :p:

ps. my Ballistix not can do any timinigs and MHz with 1T (2.5V not help ) :confused: Tried 800 4-4-4-12 1T and bsod :slap:

This is why I steer clear of i965. :p: :sofa:
01-06-2007, 01:49 PM
DEVIL K-ce

Quote:

Originally Posted by PallMall

rofl 1T eh?

hmm brb lol

Yes 1T with 680i and 650i any setting is not working :stick:
On 965P and 975X easy 4-4-4-4@1000MHz and 2.35V and 4-4-4-8@1170MHz@2.55V

Time to change ram :)

Regards

Martin
01-06-2007, 01:55 PM
k|ngp|n

George, 450 x 12 with 1T and your sub timings on ln2 will be nuts...make it happen ;).
01-07-2007, 12:14 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEVIL K-ce

Yes 1T with 680i and 650i any setting is not working :stick:
On 965P and 975X easy 4-4-4-4@1000MHz and 2.35V and 4-4-4-8@1170MHz@2.55V

Time to change ram :)

Regards

Martin

Hi Martin,

I was trying to get past your 7900GS score today and my Ballistix was doing 3-3-3-6 1T at 820 ( see score ) but I then started having problems in car hi which does point to memory problems I think. Time to change RAM myself but I have a cash problem at the moment after Christmas ...

Sorry for off topic Hipro!

Regards

Andy
01-08-2007, 12:28 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Yeah, for some reason those sticks didn't seem to like CAS 3 so much. 4-2-2-x is where they were happiest. (Good to about 450MHz with 2.65v)

Cas 3-2-2-x and 1T on Fatbodies doesn't work......only 4-2-2-x....
01-08-2007, 01:26 AM
mag|c

Great results and documentation as always George :fact: :clap:

I always enjoy reading your threads. :slobber: :eek:
01-08-2007, 04:19 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by PallMall

disagree³ :D

it does work in here :D

perhaps you mean, you can set it to memset but it doesn't get applied?

No....even in bios you can't boot at 400MHz and 3-2-2-x and 1T....:)
01-14-2007, 02:49 AM
hipro5

Last updates on AIR.....:)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...654_1054_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...654_1054_2.png

COMPARE 2k3 URL....

Though I haven't figure out the "trick" of the 2k3 and no one seems to help here, I'll start a thread about it in case someone knows something about it and willing to help.....:)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...654_1054_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...654_1054_2.png

COMPARE 2k5 URL....

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...648_1100_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...648_1100_2.png

COMPARE 2k6 URL....

That's for now and I'll be back soon with more updates....;) :)

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01-14-2007, 04:34 AM
blind_ripper

come hipro get ure gorillakos pot and thos tek-9 gfx pots and get on ure horse !
its time to get on vince his back :D
01-14-2007, 11:13 AM
Sampsa

Nice hipro, here is mine (a little bit better:) http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1004396
01-16-2007, 07:54 AM
k|ngp|n

Scores are all nasty for the clocks George....really top notch tweaking on those fatbodies :toast:
Running all the 3dmarks too...Something tells me I will have to bench like a mofo pretty soon ;)
01-16-2007, 09:39 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Scores are all nasty for the clocks George....really top notch tweaking on those fatbodies :toast:
Running all the 3dmarks too...Something tells me I will have to bench like a mofo pretty soon ;)

Competition once again my friend......AND HEALTHY competition most of all and not like some other guys do.....;) :toast: :D
01-20-2007, 03:25 AM
hipro5

Some UPDATES after insulating the mobo....:)

CPU - for the time been - is a QX6700 (Quad Core)....cooled by one of the BETA esdee's cascades.....
Full load is -91*C on 2k6 bench as for all tests of it and as for the CPU tests is -87.5*C...
CPU is feeded with only 1.66VCore coz the cascade can't handle THAT much load - for the time been - .....:D

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...655_1054_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...655_1054_2.png

COMPARE 2k1 URL.....

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...635_1038_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...635_1038_2.png

COMPARE 2k5 URL...

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...635_1038_1.png

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...635_1038_2.png

COMPARE 2k6 URL...

Though I STILL encode problems with the 2k3 bench......LOD=9 makes things MUCH MORE worse at least for me.....:(

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01-20-2007, 03:46 AM
kemo

Finnaly extreme cooling
I think kingpin should get ready to bench once you get LN2 and remove the stock cooling

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