E6600 + Asus 680i Striker Extreme

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01-05-2007, 02:59 AM
flesheatinvirus

Nice results on the water to air comparison, Im going with the storm block and Thermochill PA+ DD5 pump my self for this 6600.:D
01-05-2007, 07:20 AM
Khaotic

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Glad you guys like :)

Regarding SLI/Sound:
Still testing ram/settings etc and have yet to try SLI so no idea on sound issue yet. But Asus Striker is different from reference 680i in that it moved the sound off the motherboard to a separate daughter board card which is x1 PCI-E based and slots into the PCI-E slot. From what Andre or someone one this forum has experienced they don't have sound issues when SLI is enabled due to this difference. I can't confirm it until I run SLI later though.

The separate sound card and it's array microphone

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...triker_067.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...triker_068.jpg

I have the Striker with 2x eVGA 8800GTX. I put a Sound Blaster X-fi in the PCI slot directly above the bottom PCI-Express. There is still one PCI that I can get to, right under the TOP PCI-Express. The size of the 8800gtx cards pretty much block all other slots.

With SLI enabled, I get horrible sound perfomance/quality in games. Sounds like the audio is coming from a FAN rather than a $100+ sound card. Even during Cut-scenes and game intro's. Turn OFF SLI, and the problem goes away.
01-05-2007, 07:42 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khaotic

I have the Striker with 2x eVGA 8800GTX. I put a Sound Blaster X-fi in the PCI slot directly above the bottom PCI-Express. There is still one PCI that I can get to, right under the TOP PCI-Express. The size of the 8800gtx cards pretty much block all other slots.

With SLI enabled, I get horrible sound perfomance/quality in games. Sounds like the audio is coming from a FAN rather than a $100+ sound card. Even during Cut-scenes and game intro's. Turn OFF SLI, and the problem goes away.

tried my suggestions at http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3527 ?

Q6600 kentsfield + Asus 680i Striker Extreme thread has started http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=129021 :)
01-07-2007, 03:12 AM
eva2000
Swapped out Q6600 Kentsfield cpu and now back to using E6600 with Asus 680i Striker Extreme :)

H20 setup:

Quote:

Swiftech Apogee -> Radiical Triple fan single pass radiator -> T line -> Swiftech MCP655 @12.25v -> Swiftech Apogee

System:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 QPGE B1 Step 5
- Swiftech Apogee/Radiical Triple Single Pass/MCP655@12.25v Kayl Custom 100W Psu
- 2x 640MB Gainward 8800GTS SLI
- Asus 680i Striker Extreme rev1.0 0402 bios
- 2GB OCZ PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX2
- 1x 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA NCQ on SATA2 port
- Pioneer DVR-05 DVD Burner
- 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular Power supply
Settings used:

Quote:

AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1601 (means 400FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600.8
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1165 (means 582.5mhz speeds)
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1164.3

Vcore Voltage: 1.525 set (1.4v bios/1.342v windows idle/1.4v windows load - 0505 and higher bios fix the vcore issue but 0402 bios more stable for both my E6600/Q6600 cpus)
Memory Voltage: 2.40v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.4v
NB Core Voltage: 1.65v
SB Core Voltage: 1.50v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.4v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO

tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 4
tRP: 4
tRAS: 4
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)

Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: 5
tRC: 1
tWR: 6
tWTR: 8
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: 28
Async Latency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x

PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...8s531ms_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...rpi-32m_tn.png

Proof there's more than 1 way to skin a cat - well to get comparable to 965P/975x times for Super Pi

Settings used:

Quote:

AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1601 (means 400FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600.8
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1165 (means 582.5mhz speeds)
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1164.3

Vcore Voltage: 1.525 set (1.4v bios/1.342v windows idle/1.4v windows load - 0505 and higher bios fix the vcore issue but 0402 bios more stable for both my E6600/Q6600 cpus)
Memory Voltage: 2.40v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.4v
NB Core Voltage: 1.65v
SB Core Voltage: 1.50v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.4v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO

tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 3
tRP: 3
tRAS: 4
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)

Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: 5
tRC: 1
tWR: 6
tWTR: 8
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: 28
Async Latency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x

PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...4s422ms_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...rpi-32m_tn.png
01-07-2007, 05:19 AM
Mullet

Looking nice...!!

Gonna have a bash at 3.6 on my E6600 and Striker.

Any recommendations on my RAM settings? I am using Corsair PC8500 Dominator

Also....question for you re your vcore setting. In the settings you have quoted vcore as 'SET' and 'in BIOS' the in bios fiigure is 1.4 in the bios....is that the value I have to input in the BIOS or should I put in 1.525?

Thanks bud.
01-07-2007, 05:31 AM
eva2000

vcore depends on your cpu, but the important part is in bios value not what is set... it will vary depending on bios set 0402 had a bug which set vcore lower than the option but for me it's the most stable bios compared to 0505 and 0701
01-07-2007, 07:02 AM
eva2000

Maybe the key to faster pi times is in tRCD or the hidden bios tRD option since 582mhz 5-3-3-4 2T is only 1 second slower than 640mhz 5-4-3-4 2T at same advance timings of 5-1-6-8-28 but tRD are AUTO in both cases. But memset v3.1 beta can't show what bios sets tRD when set at AUTO.

Here's @640mhz 5-4-3-4 2T at 2.5v vdimm set in bios

Settings used:

Quote:

AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1601 (means 400FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600.8
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1281 (means 640mhz speeds)
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1280.1

Vcore Voltage: 1.525 set (1.4v bios/1.342v windows idle/1.4v windows load - 0505 and higher bios fix the vcore issue but 0402 bios more stable for both my E6600/Q6600 cpus)
Memory Voltage: 2.50v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.4v
NB Core Voltage: 1.7v
SB Core Voltage: 1.50v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.4v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO

tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 4
tRP: 3
tRAS: 4
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)

Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: 5
tRC: 1
tWR: 6
tWTR: 8
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: 28
Async Latency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x

PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...3s532ms_tn.png
01-07-2007, 08:50 AM
sdumper

Having fun it looks like! Way to go Eva good stuff!!!
Eva I hope you dont mind me posting this question in your thread so let me if I should delete it and start a new thread. Here goes:

Who to believe Everest/Speedfan or ASUS PC Probe II (0402/0701 ... 0505 is not stable for me :( )????

First of all i am being lazy because i do have a voltage meter.
Second no i dont know the measuring point for vCore on the Striker.

Now that ive cleared that up here we go.

Anybody know why ASUS Probe reports a completely different vCore number than SpeedFan and Everest? ASUS PC Probe II reports the exact same number as set in the bios but best off of testing the PC Probe number is way off and does not reflect vDroop. Can I trust anything that PC Probe II tells me?
01-07-2007, 09:00 AM
eva2000

Thanks :)

can confirm that part of the key to faster pi times for Asus 680i Striker Extreme is tRD in bios. From testing memtest test #5 at 640mhz 5-4-3-4 2T at 2.5v vdimm, with tRD = AUTO and tRD = 7 ish was same stability. Tighten tRD from AUTO to 6 had 1 or 2 errors in test #5 after a few passes. Testing tRD = 5 had more errors. So dropped mem clocks to 628mhz 5-4-3-4 2T 5-1-6-8-28 with tRD = 5 at still 2.5v vdimm and 32M time was ~1.2 seconds faster than 640mhz 5-4-3-4 2T with tRD = AUTO!

Settings used:

Quote:

AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1601 (means 400FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600.8
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1257 (means 628mhz speeds)
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1256.1

Vcore Voltage: 1.525 set (1.4v bios/1.342v windows idle/1.4v windows load - 0505 and higher bios fix the vcore issue but 0402 bios more stable for both my E6600/Q6600 cpus)
Memory Voltage: 2.50v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.4v
NB Core Voltage: 1.7v
SB Core Voltage: 1.50v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.4v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO

tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 4
tRP: 3
tRAS: 4
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)

Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: 5
tRC: 1
tWR: 6
tWTR: 8
tREF: AUTO
tRD: 5
tRFC: 28
Async Latency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x

PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2s313ms_tn.png

I have no idea of the DMM measuring pts on striker either LOL

I never use speedfan... Asus Probe2 while not entirely accurate, i tend to believe more for now unless someone has proof otherwise :)
01-07-2007, 10:21 AM
sdumper

Sdumper shuffles off to find proof... :)

Ok im a little concerned because everest is matching speedfan to... im going to measure myself...
01-07-2007, 10:27 AM
sdumper

measure point are here: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show....php?p=1925789

same as p5b Deluxe...
01-07-2007, 01:26 PM
Mullet

would you recommend water cooling the northbridge eva? My temps hover around 40 sometimes on my northbridge with voltages @ stock. I note on the Asus Probe readings the DDR2 TERM reading is showing up in red. What does this refer to?
01-08-2007, 07:30 AM
eva2000
thanks sdumper :)

with fan on NB it's pretty cool/not hot even with 1.75v on NB for me

DDR2 Term is memory VTT which should be half of vdimm value.

Moving past 3.6ghz for higher cpu clocks now. Just harder to hit the right unlinked divider for the memory clocks you want :)

System:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 QPGE B1 Step 5
- Swiftech Apogee/Radiical Triple Single Pass/MCP655@12.25v Kayl Custom 100W Psu
- 2x 640MB Gainward 8800GTS SLI
- Asus 680i Striker Extreme rev1.0 0402 bios
- 2GB OCZ PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX2
- 1x 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA NCQ on SATA2 port
- Pioneer DVR-05 DVD Burner
- 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular Power supply
@3822Mhz with 2GB OCZ PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 @637Mhz 5-4-3-4 2T
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...1s547ms_tn.png

@3922Mhz with 2GB OCZ PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 @634Mhz 5-4-3-4 2T
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...7s266ms_tn.png

Don't mind the incorrect labeling of the screenshots, forgot to change it from Q6600 to E6600 after swapped cpus :)
01-08-2007, 05:18 PM
simonk

Hmm I have tried the settings below with same ram, can't get past 1070 FSB for 533 mhz speeds. Is it the high multi :confused:

Settings used:

Quote:
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled

Multi - 11

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1601 (means 400FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600.8
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1257 (means 628mhz speeds)
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1256.1

Vcore Voltage: 1.75 set (1.632v windows idle - using 0505 bios

Memory Voltage: 2.50v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.4v
NB Core Voltage: 1.7v
SB Core Voltage: 1.50v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.4v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO

tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 4
tRP: 3
tRAS: 4
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)

Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: 5
tRC: 1
tWR: 6
tWTR: 8
tREF: AUTO
tRD: 5
tRFC: 28
Async Latency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x

PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200
01-08-2007, 11:00 PM
eva2000

0505 and 0701 were less stable for me... i'm using 0402 bios

double check vcore and other voltages are correctly set on a reboot into the bios after saving bios changes

can you show cpuz spd tab screenshot ?

my CPU VTT was set at 1.3v
01-09-2007, 12:26 AM
simonk

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Screenshots attached
01-09-2007, 12:34 AM
Babsy

this probably is a dumb question but is the screenshots in black and white the new thing?that's what i keep seeing nowadays from you guys

anyway i got all my setup now withw quad instead of that e6600 and i'm hoping to see some shots from you guys so i follow suit...i'm still learning :)
01-09-2007, 12:48 AM
Khaotic

Well - to make things more interesting.
My Striker only gives me the crackling sound when I play Battlefield 2142 with SLI enabled. No other game so far has done it.
Prey, Quake 4, Flight Simulator X, and Guild Wars have all been ran and sound was clean.
01-09-2007, 01:11 AM
eva2000

simonk not sure what's up with yours could be your ram not clocking as high as mine or different bios related

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babsy

this probably is a dumb question but is the screenshots in black and white the new thing?that's what i keep seeing nowadays from you guys

greyscale PNG format no resize screenshots - right click on my screenies and view size of file ;) compare that to other similarly large screenies posted by others and you'll see mine are 40-65% smaller in size = faster loading :)
01-13-2007, 05:46 AM
BNDMOD

How i can view the asus probeII like you.. you are watching NB voltaje ddr and more voltaje and information that asus probe can give me :s wath version are you using!!
01-13-2007, 08:53 AM
sdumper

I just flashed back to 0402 and im stumped.
Now Speedfan 4.32 matches ASUS PC Probe II exactly. Previously PC Probe II was reporting higher vcore than speedfan on 0701 leading me to believe that the voltage reported on 0701 is incorrect or 0402 is incorrect. Seeing that 0402 is much more stable I believe the voltage reported by 0402 is reporting lower than actual.

Example: I was not stable on 0701 at 4.4 and reported vcore of 1.65 (speedfan of 1.57) but am reporting 100% stable at 0402 vcore reported 1.63 pc probe II and 1.63 speedfan. So what to believe I really dont know but I am concerned that I am overvolting my chip without knowing it. Unfortunately im on phase so my temps really havent varied much.

Note: on 0402 my vcore is set at 1.75 in the bios :eek:
01-13-2007, 04:19 PM
Lood007

I have found 0402 to be the best in voltage reaction. Unfortunately, it still suffers from vdroop, but at least my selection in BIOS actually has an effect now.

BTW, in 0701, my vcore would change with the strap.
Ex: FSB from 1333 - 1600 = vCore fixed at 1.40v
FSB from 1600+ = vCore fixed at 1.50v
below 1333 vcore reacted to selection in BIOS pretty accurately.

Seems like there is a strap to vcore association mixup.
01-13-2007, 05:31 PM
noobzed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khaotic

I have the Striker with 2x eVGA 8800GTX. I put a Sound Blaster X-fi in the PCI slot directly above the bottom PCI-Express. There is still one PCI that I can get to, right under the TOP PCI-Express. The size of the 8800gtx cards pretty much block all other slots.

With SLI enabled, I get horrible sound perfomance/quality in games. Sounds like the audio is coming from a FAN rather than a $100+ sound card. Even during Cut-scenes and game intro's. Turn OFF SLI, and the problem goes away.

disapointing ! and LOL ! for the most overpriced mobo of the market !

shame on you Asux.
01-13-2007, 06:19 PM
sdumper

No such issue i have 2 pny 8800gtx cards ... my sounds is awesome as it should be...as well as my overclocks on this board..
01-13-2007, 07:26 PM
Lood007

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobzed

disapointing ! and LOL ! for the most overpriced mobo of the market !

shame on you Asux.

I don't think this gentleman's problem is related to the nVidia issue. I think that there is some instability stemming from some other problem. (Linkboost and too high a NB FSB perhaps?)

I don't know the specifics, so I won't pretend to, but the ASUS boards have been seen working fine with SLi and Creative cards.

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