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11-07-2006, 05:32 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Frisch

Maybe after the return, they rejected their reality. ;)

They may have but I doubt they'd switch over the entire elec infrastructure!:D

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Originally Posted by DDTUNG

Yes we are 220V, Charles.

The 6700 needs 1.55V to run Windows above 4G, probably 1.6V+ to be benchable, on air. So I guess good weeks do produce average chips.

Unless this Intel noob is missing something here.:)

DDTUNG:cool:

You? Intel n00b? Good one!:ROTF:
11-07-2006, 05:39 PM
Frisch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

They may have but I doubt they'd switch over the entire elec infrastructure!:D

And I think XS's crunchers are happy about that, as I have a feeling it's pointed towards DDTUNG's setup. :D
11-07-2006, 06:46 PM
rob725

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDTUNG

Yes we are 220V, Charles.

The 6700 needs 1.55V to run Windows above 4G, probably 1.6V+ to be benchable, on air. So I guess good weeks do produce average chips.

Unless this Intel noob is missing something here.:)

DDTUNG:cool:

4g on air is pretty good. Must be generating a fair amount of heat at those volts. If you can find a tuniq tower (been unavailable for months in US), you can bring your temps down a ton.
11-07-2006, 06:52 PM
Charles Wirth

I thought I had a 220v cooler here, Ill check at Reggies.
11-07-2006, 07:05 PM
DDTUNG

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

I thought I had a 220v cooler here, Ill check at Reggies.

Thanks for the thought. I have an old Vapochill here that I can probably make to work with this rig, but running phase 24/7 to get a couple hundred MHz will be overkill.:)

DDTUNG:cool:
11-07-2006, 07:08 PM
DDTUNG

Can anyone give me a link to the 1304 bios in the Winflash bundle?

Thanks.

DDTUNG:cool:
11-07-2006, 08:09 PM
njkid32

Here is the 1304 bios...

LOL, you wouldnt run phase 24/7 for a little extra this just doesnt sound right coming from you:) I actually ran a Yonah for about 3 weeks straight crunching Rosetta on my single stage so it wouldnt hurt it.. The only thing it will hurt is your pocket:)
11-08-2006, 12:33 AM
DDTUNG

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

Here is the 1304 bios...

LOL, you wouldnt run phase 24/7 for a little extra this just doesnt sound right coming from you:) I actually ran a Yonah for about 3 weeks straight crunching Rosetta on my single stage so it wouldnt hurt it.. The only thing it will hurt is your pocket:)

Thanks Eric. I can now crunch WCG at 4G but am concerned with long term stability at the necessary settings. The problem with phase is not the cost, but the noise it generates in my study.:(

DDTUNG:cool:
11-08-2006, 12:41 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDTUNG

Thanks Eric. I can now crunch WCG at 4G but am concerned with long term stability at the necessary settings. The problem with phase is not the cost, but the noise it generates in my study.:(

DDTUNG:cool:

You may have already done this but if not, maybe a lap job on the core and HS can help with temps. I was looking at these woodcrests and they actually dip in the center. Then did some reading and the conroe's seem to be effected by this more than most cpu's.
11-08-2006, 12:48 AM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

You may have already done this but if not, maybe a lap job on the core and HS can help with temps. I was looking at these woodcrests and they actually dip in the center. Then did some reading and the conroe's seem to be effected by this more than most cpu's.

This I agree 100% most of the Conroes that I have messed with were either concave or convex so I suggest you have a look at the IHS on that cpu and see how it is.. Now as Dave said you might want to do the same with the HS.. Even the best of HS's arent flat... Sometimes even a higher CFM fan will help a few degrees:)

Edit: If your concern about long term stability has something to do with high volts I honestly wouldnt worry about it. I was running an AMD 3200 at 1.65v 24/7 for over a year and didnt lose any type of stability. I am not sure if the 65nm cores are better at handling high volts for a period of time but I did run my kentsfield and my old conroe 100% cpu at 1.6v or so and not once saw an issue... I hope this puts some ease to your concerns:)
11-08-2006, 01:28 AM
DDTUNG

If all else fails I'll lap the Conroe.:)

I'd go WC before I use a high CFM(noisy) fan though. After all this is the age of quiet PCs. My benching days are over.:D

DDTUNG:cool:
11-08-2006, 01:31 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by DDTUNG

If all else fails I'll lap the Conroe.:)

I'd go WC before I use a high CFM(noisy) fan though. After all this is the age of quiet PCs. My benching days are over.:D

DDTUNG:cool:

Even if a G80 hit your front door?:rolleyes:
11-08-2006, 01:35 AM
[XC]Atomicpineapple

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Even if a G80 hit your front door?:rolleyes:

That would be cool, bring DDTUNG out of (benching) retirement :D
11-08-2006, 01:42 AM
njkid32

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Originally Posted by DDTUNG

If all else fails I'll lap the Conroe.:)

I'd go WC before I use a high CFM(noisy) fan though. After all this is the age of quiet PCs. My benching days are over.:D

DDTUNG:cool:

I always forget about how loud fans can get I guess I am just used to it... I'll tell you what, I bet we will be overclocking when we are 70+... I know you got that warm fuzzy feeling when you hit the power button on that new Conroe setup.. I get the same feeling when I do the same thing... And that feeling will never go away.. When I am 80 years old and the 10ghz Intel CPU's are out I'll be feeling like a teenager again with his first girlfriend:) I know bad analogy:)
11-08-2006, 01:46 AM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by njkid32

I always forget about how loud fans can get I guess I am just used to it... I'll tell you what, I bet we will be overclocking when we are 70+... I know you got that warm fuzzy feeling when you hit the power button on that new Conroe setup.. I get the same feeling when I do the same thing... And that feeling will never go away.. When I am 80 years old and the 10ghz Intel CPU's are out I'll be feeling like a teenager again with his first girlfriend:) I know bad analogy:)

My friend: I'm 54,55 next February and I get that feeling when I build a new system. Like watching a child grow into adulthood.
In a week I'll be building 2 woodcrest systems and I can't freaking wait to do them!:D

Ahh Eric: I didn't know you had a GF?:confused:
Oh wait, I remember, you told me her name: Suzie Palm..Didn't you describe her as a pretty girl with 5 sisters?

Ok, sorry DDT, back to topic. I guess the question that begs to be asked is this:
Is there any part of the benching scene that still grabs you?
Because if it's 3DMark, I know this guy with G80's that I did a favor for and might part with one.:D
11-08-2006, 02:19 AM
DDTUNG

This Intel bios is strange. 1333 + 18 gives me 3930, +19 is 4017, and +20 goes to 4054!:confused:

DDTUNG:cool:
11-08-2006, 03:45 AM
[XC] riptide

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDTUNG

If all else fails I'll lap the Conroe.:)

I'd go WC before I use a high CFM(noisy) fan though. After all this is the age of quiet PCs. My benching days are over.:D

DDTUNG:cool:

Lap them. Almost a must nowadays with them. My E6600 has uneven edges and is exagerated at the corners. Seems like Intel skimped in the QC department at the assembly plant. Or maybe thought.... " bahhh these aren't presscotts, it'll be ok if we don't get them exact.. save a few $$s"
11-08-2006, 04:43 AM
Fr3ak

Eric, I doubt you will be using a 10Ghz Intel in 35 years.
11-08-2006, 04:57 AM
v0dka

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Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Eric, I doubt you will be using a 10Ghz Intel in 35 years.

Netburst revisited!
11-08-2006, 05:14 AM
itznfb

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Originally Posted by riptide

Or maybe thought.... " bahhh these aren't presscotts, it'll be ok if we don't get them exact.. save a few $$s"

^^ i think that's more accurate. even with the most horrid IHS on the C2D they still run relatively cool @ stock settings.

my E6600 dropped about 8c full load from a lapping. could you image a prescott with those IHS's!?!
11-10-2006, 03:59 PM
DDTUNG

The IHS was lapped, but core temps under load did not drop at all.

The rig is now running at 1066 +46 crunching Rosetta 24/7. Boinc bench same as 1333 + 17 but memory bandwidth is much improved at the new setting. And the + setting gives correct MHz all the way to 4G.:)

DDTUNG:cool:
11-10-2006, 04:12 PM
[XC] riptide

Quote:

Originally Posted by itznfb

could you image a prescott with those IHS's!?!

Yep... a rising sun....
11-10-2006, 04:33 PM
[XC] serlv

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDTUNG

The IHS was lapped, but core temps under load did not drop at all.

The rig is now running at 1066 +46 crunching Rosetta 24/7. Boinc bench same as 1333 + 17 but memory bandwidth is much improved at the new setting. And the + setting gives correct MHz all the way to 4G.:)

DDTUNG:cool:

I'm wondering about the contact of the IHS to the core(s?). Freecableguy has been successful in removing it and getting much better contact.
11-11-2006, 12:18 AM
DDTUNG

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Originally Posted by serlv

I'm wondering about the contact of the IHS to the core(s?). Freecableguy has been successful in removing it and getting much better contact.

That's probably it, but I am very reluctant to have the IHS removed. Watercooling it will be the other option. I just need the loaded temps to come down by 10-15C for it to crunch 24/7 at 4G. Looking through the Conroe overclock database I have not found a E6700/badaxe rig that is capable of doing that on air.

DDTUNG:cool:
11-11-2006, 01:15 AM
Fr3ak

What voltage do you need to run 4ghz stable and what are load temps at that speed?

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