OCZ Platinum sticks - Has ANYBODY been successful with them?

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08-24-2006, 02:43 PM
amx

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Originally Posted by Brahmzy

^^ I did notice that if I go over 2.1V, memtest and Orthos BOMB immediately. I tried all different voltages (low and high) and 2.1VDIMM was the most stable by far.

OCZ said my new RAM should ship tomorrow FedEx, so I'll post results ASAP. I still don't know what they're sending me, although they said "upgrade." It'd be nice if they sent me the Rev. 2 stuff. :)

Sweet. Update us when you get it.
08-25-2006, 08:15 AM
idiotec

I played around with these things a bit, and got them to play a little. I didn't have time to fully test stability, I will try that soon.

vdimm - 2.2v
Memory Performance Enhance - Fast (Based on suggestion from fyleow)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9630/ddr21000fq7.jpg
08-25-2006, 08:22 AM
zoob

Anyone running these sticks without a fan blowing over them? My set get errors without active cooling. =\
08-25-2006, 08:29 AM
idiotec

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoob

Anyone running these sticks without a fan blowing over them? My set get errors without active cooling. =\

No fan on mine. I run them at stock speeds with 2.0vdimm.
08-25-2006, 08:44 AM
WesM63

Well i'll update my status here as well. From my other thread:

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Originally Posted by WesM63

Well got a nice package in the mail from OCZ today (well it was actually here on tuesday, but no one was home to sign for it).

Popped these bad boys in and no problems what so ever! Big thanks to OCZ, after the mix up on my first RMA they got me sorted out and then some!

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Originally Posted by WesM63

Yes the ram wouldn't run rated timings using 4:3 divider. RMA'd the first set (Tony at OCZ told me too), got another set back and still had the same issue. I spoke to marcus and Jimmy at OCZ next, there was a mix up, they where supposed to send me Rev2 and did not. OCZ then pulled one out for me, overnighted a new better set because of the previous mix up.

OCZ tech support is great, sometimes you have to jump through hoops with company's and I don't blame them.
08-25-2006, 10:39 AM
Vric

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoob

Anyone running these sticks without a fan blowing over them? My set get errors without active cooling. =\

No fan either, but have good case airflow.
Memory run perfectly fine.
08-25-2006, 10:43 AM
Brahmzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

Well i'll update my status here as well. From my other thread:

That's good news - I hope next week I'll be happy with my RMA too. Did they send the same stuff or the rev. 2 stuff?
08-25-2006, 01:13 PM
Ruhnie

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Originally Posted by fyleow

I am using Rev 1.

The setting I used are posted in another thread that had pictures of the bios. Basically I disable everything that is not needed: every function of the CPU with the exception of Virtualization, parellel ports, legacy usb, audio codec. All my voltages are set to stock, except CPU is set to 1.325v and +0.2 Vdimm. Memory timings are set to manual, 5-5-5-15.

I had the exact same problems as many people described. Dual prime was not stable for me even at stock FSB and the divider set to run at DDR 667. I tried everything and got frustrated until I saw someone on Anandtech saying he fixed the stability problem by lowering DDR voltages. I lowered my dimm voltage and I could suddenly push my FSB to 430.

I have tested my system to be dual prime stable for a full 24 hours using the blend test.

I have tried some Corsair sticks as well and they were not stable, so this might not be an issue affecting OCZ memory only. I really doubt RMAing your sticks will help either, because I have tried out another pair of the same Rev 1 Platinum 6400 DDR2 2 gb kits and they had the same issues. I also notice this behavior on multiple DS3 boards, and the same 430 FSB wall on 2 DS3s I tried. With the P5B Deluxe I can get 480 FSB stable using the same hardware.

That might have been me, good to hear you are able to OC stable on the DS3. I haven't had a chance to OC yet, but I'll be keeping my vdimm on 2.0v for now.
08-26-2006, 07:27 AM
Lizardus

newest beta BIOS for Asus P5B deluxe : 0605
1. Fix Kentsfield CPU incorrect issue
2. Add patch for OCZ2G8002GK-6400
3. Add patch S3 suspend function not stable when CPU FSB over 300MHz

Somebody w/p5b dlx tell me if this bios help something.....

LINK: http://www.computerbase.de/forum/att...3&d=1156408024
08-26-2006, 01:35 PM
aggybong

I would definitely not try that BIOS until it's on Asus' ftp. One XS member said it hosed TWO of his Windows installs.
08-27-2006, 12:27 PM
Vric

Finally had some time to play a bit with my E6600 and this memory.

With 2:3 divider, I can run them at 850Mhz. After that, it fail with memtest.

But my problem is all divider give me problem.

1:1 with 300Mhz FSB (600Mhz memory) = error in memtest
1:1 with 400Mhz FSB (800Mhz memory) = error again
3:4 with 300Mhz FSB (800Mhz memory) = same errors
4:5 with 300Mhz FSB (750Mhz memory) = once again errors

I tried CL 4-5-4-15 and 5-6-6-15. Most of the time, memory won't boot when set by SPD and need a cmos clearing. Voltage is set to 2.1V.

So basicly, I can't overclock with this memory. (unless you call a 180Mhz an overclock...)

Will see if it's the memory or the Bios, but I'm disappointed so far.
08-27-2006, 04:31 PM
Tony

ok guys im going to help you along as you are all trying to get clocks out of some of your dimms they just will not do.

First off the old 800 gold and the old 800 plat rev1 are Elpida based, they clock well async but not so good sync....so what does this mean.

1:1 you will see 350ish maybe 370, async on a good pair 500+

The plat rev2's are not Elpida based, being honest i have been told not to say what they are but I will say they are not micron either...please don't speculate as I ain't going to tell and they are all OCZ branded.
The plat rev2's will do 1:1 better than the older rev1's, some are doing 430 to 450...many do 400+ with ease.

Now, im seeing peeps buying rev1's and RMAing for rev2's...please buy what you want in the first instance, knowingly buying a product for an upgrade from us will only have us cutting support back. We have supported many users who were having serious issues as many of the boards had very immature bios files, these files are now getting better and 1:1 is improving a little...this means you may RMA 800golds and get the same ram back...

So if you want to buy OCZ and you want 1:1 of 400fsb+ then the plat rev2's are what you want...OR look at the other modules in the plat range that are Micron based. If you are happy with the upclock ratio's the the golds will do you just fine ;)

Also we found why 4x512 will work better than 2x1024...chip selsect....some boards are not doing it so well ;)

Finally if you want monster 1:1, VX2, the new 8500 or the 8000GEEK, 7200EPP...all high yield micron...
08-27-2006, 05:04 PM
linflas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

So if you want to buy OCZ and you want 1:1 of 400fsb+ then the plat rev2's are what you want...OR look at the other modules in the plat range that are Micron based.

The rev 2 would not go anywhere near 1:1 on a FSB of 400 for me, well it would boot to windows, but completely unstable.

I had to return your RAM and get the G-Skill HZ to acheive this stabaly, so my experience with the revision 2, stay the hell away from it also, go with the good micron based stuff, and you will be hassle free.
08-27-2006, 05:12 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by linflas

The rev 2 would not go anywhere near 1:1 on a FSB of 400 for me, well it would boot to windows, but completely unstable.

I had to return your RAM and get the G-Skill HZ to acheive this stabaly, so my experience with the revision 2, stay the hell away from it also, go with the good micron based stuff, and you will be hassle free.

I just told you what dimms are mircon based...and you choose to run Gskill???

I have tested the plat rev2's to well over 450, most of the issues are still bios related as to why users are not seeing high clocks with them.

Micron is super tollerant to tight timings the board covertly set...I suggest all users should set timings in windows and clock up in windows also to see if the bios is the limitation.
08-27-2006, 05:50 PM
WesM63

Tony,
I agree 100% on this statement. I will say I didn't know this was the case with mine until you and other OCZ employees told me so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Now, im seeing peeps buying rev1's and RMAing for rev2's...please buy what you want in the first instance, knowingly buying a product for an upgrade from us will only have us cutting support back. We have supported many users who were having serious issues as many of the boards had very immature bios files, these files are now getting better and 1:1 is improving a little...this means you may RMA 800golds and get the same ram back...

Don't screw up OCZ great support by doing this guys.
08-27-2006, 06:15 PM
idiotec

Well I guess I am lucky, my rev1's will do 400FSB+ 1:1 without problems. But I have to say, if they didn't, I would be RMA'ing as well. I do not see why PC6400 RAM not being able to run 400FSB 1:1 should be acceptable?

Not trying to flame, and I really appreciate the fact that an OCZ rep participates in this forum to help out their customers.

Just my $0.02 ;)
08-27-2006, 06:27 PM
Fred_Pohl

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Originally Posted by idiotec

Well I guess I am lucky, my rev1's will do 400FSB+ 1:1 without problems. But I have to say, if they didn't, I would be RMA'ing as well. I do not see why PC6400 RAM not being able to run 400FSB 1:1 should be acceptable?

Not trying to flame, and I really appreciate the fact that an OCZ rep participates in this forum to help out their customers.

Just my $0.02 ;)

I agree on both counts. I bought PC6400 rated to run 4-5-4-15 @2.1V and no where was it mentioned that it only works in async mode. If it had been, I would have bought different ram. Now I have to wonder whether my borderline stability with Orthos large FFTs is being caused by this Rev. 1. Time for more testing. :(

Edit: Testing completed. My OCZ ram is fine. It's my E6400 that doesn't want to do 3.2GHz without a big Vcore boost. The ram is rated 4-5-4-15 @2.1V but does 4-4-4-12 @2.0V. I can't complain for the price.
08-27-2006, 08:14 PM
linflas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

I just told you what dimms are mircon based...and you choose to run Gskill???

Yes I did, as I did not find your support too helpful in my case.

I am speaking of my experience, I know from reading your post's on these forums, that you are nothing but helpful, and I wish the OCZ I bought had been out of the box stable at the FSB I wanted to run. Unfortunately it was not.

I went with the G.Skill because many people in this forum had had great luck with it, and I was able to acheive the speeds I wanted out of the box without adjustment.

I come to these forums to learn, so I do not have to tinker with my system for days and weeks on end to gain stability. I like getting a little more out of my system then what I paid for, but I do not like spending all my time tinkering to acheive stability.

I want to use my computer for what I bought it for, encoding, gaming, and general use, not spend all my time trying to tweak it, I have little enough free time to do what I like to do, I do not want it occupied with the hassle of stabalizing something.

This is just my opinion on the subject.
08-27-2006, 08:34 PM
badboy

Mine runs perfectly at 412mhz fsb at 4,5,4,15 at 2.1v and passes all ortho tests with flying colors. After I managed to figure out what I needed to do on my own to get it to work in this motherboard. This is the Rev.1 memory. Well I got the go to bed now. Later.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=114749
08-27-2006, 09:57 PM
Alex08

ok so I read this whole thread twice(actually skimmed I guess). Can someone specify the difference AGAIN between the rev. 1 and rev 2 platinum xtc 6400 EL's?

Do I have to pop open cpu-z and look at the spd timings, or can I tell by physically looking at the heatspreaders.

The SPD timings on the sticker of the heatspreader says: 4-5-4-15.

i've had pretty good luck so far i believe compared some users.

using a DS3 and e6300. i was able to achieve 450 or ddr900 1:1 using 2.3v. But my timings were 5-5-5, i did not try 4-4-4. I haven't tried using a lower voltage or higher fsb. I just wanted to pop the memory in, while I had a chance to use the board and chip. But I was able to sp2004 large ftt's for 6hrs before I had to give it back.

Anyways, are these rev 1 or 2?
08-27-2006, 11:03 PM
wwwww

My 4200's can get up to around 400MHz benchable (not fully stable though) with two sticks. With 4 sticks I can't get it stable at default speeds.
08-27-2006, 11:22 PM
Fred_Pohl

Rev. 1 is rated 4-5-4-15 and Rev. 2 is 4-4-4-12. Rev. 1 uses Elpida chips and OCZ isn't saying what chips are on Rev. 2.
08-28-2006, 12:06 AM
Alex08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred_Pohl

Rev. 1 is rated 4-5-4-15 and Rev. 2 is 4-4-4-12. Rev. 1 uses Elpida chips and OCZ isn't saying what chips are on Rev. 2.

this is written on the sticker on the heatspreader? correct?
08-28-2006, 02:28 AM
Sumanji

Quote:

Originally Posted by idiotec

I do not see why PC6400 RAM not being able to run 400FSB 1:1 should be acceptable?

Too right... running the RAM async puts less stress on it right? So how can you rate RAM for 400MHz, if it can't actually cope with a 400MHz FSB?!

If they can only do 350MHz ish, maybe they should be rebranded as DDR2-700 :stick:
08-28-2006, 07:28 AM
mackanz

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Originally Posted by Sumanji

Too right... running the RAM async puts less stress on it right? So how can you rate RAM for 400MHz, if it can't actually cope with a 400MHz FSB?!

If they can only do 350MHz ish, maybe they should be rebranded as DDR2-700 :stick:

You know, there are more dividers than that. Some boards only have upclocking dividers.

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