Scythe Infinity arrived today

Well i just played with it for about 2hrs trying to get my temps down. I have something wrong.. either its still hitting on something or the base on this thing blows bigtime. (You'll see here in a sec.)

I looked it over carefully and don't see it hitting anything.. but it might still be.
I mounted and re-mounted the dang thing 5-6times.. all resulting in the same temps.
Tried mounting it the other way (skinny side facing ram slots), and it will not go on this way. The HS hits capacitors on the top, no way to fix this.
I also put a 130cfm fan on it instead of the stock fan, temps dropped 1-2c.
Touched the heatpipes at 70c full load and nearly burnt my finger tip off.
Thinking maybe thats just how hot it runs, put the coolermaster crap i have back on. SAME EXACT TEMP UNDER LOAD AS INFINITY. Now, something has to be wrong here.

I don't know what else to try at this point. Once again i'm aggervated at this system. Half tempted to buy another cooler and try it.

Here are some pics, check out the bottom of the HS pic. Doesn't look right, what would cause that?

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs1.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs2.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs3.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs4.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs5.jpg

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Originally Posted by Yay for Cheese

Since I plan on placing the fan so that it blows the air into the exhaust, which mounting way is better for me? The Jinobi way or the DarkOneX way?

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Wow, I get my own method named after me. Cool. :p:

As far as heatsink orientation goes, it all depends on where your exhaust fan is. Just turn the Infinity so that its fan is facing the exhaust fan. On my P180, I have both options of using either the top or the rear exhaust fan; I used the top one, as my line of reasoning was that heat would be vented out more easily since heat rises.

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Originally Posted by WesM63

Well i just played with it for about 2hrs trying to get my temps down. I have something wrong.. either its still hitting on something or the base on this thing blows bigtime. (You'll see here in a sec.)

I looked it over carefully and don't see it hitting anything.. but it might still be.
I mounted and re-mounted the dang thing 5-6times.. all resulting in the same temps.
Tried mounting it the other way (skinny side facing ram slots), and it will not go on this way. The HS hits capacitors on the top, no way to fix this.
I also put a 130cfm fan on it instead of the stock fan, temps dropped 1-2c.
Touched the heatpipes at 70c full load and nearly burnt my finger tip off.
Thinking maybe thats just how hot it runs, put the coolermaster crap i have back on. SAME EXACT TEMP UNDER LOAD AS INFINITY. Now, something has to be wrong here.

I don't know what else to try at this point. Once again i'm aggervated at this system. Half tempted to buy another cooler and try it.

Here are some pics, check out the bottom of the HS pic. Doesn't look right, what would cause that?

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs1.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs2.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs3.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs4.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs5.jpg

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I'd be aggrevated too, that's WAY too hot for some unknown reason? I just bought a B&D dremel with a tungsten carbide bit so here we go infinity grin time, will let you know what temp I get to when I boot up.

WesM63: It could be that the Conroe's IHS isn't flat. When I got my Infinity, I reflected a screen door off its surface, and there were no distortions, so the Infinity's base should be pretty flat already. Have you also tried using different temp monitoring programs like Core Temp to see if there's any difference from the ASUS PC Probe one?

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Originally Posted by Jinobi

WesM63: It could be that the Conroe's IHS isn't flat. When I got my Infinity, I reflected a screen door off its surface, and there were no distortions, so the Infinity's base should be pretty flat already. Have you also tried using different temp monitoring programs like Core Temp to see if there's any difference from the ASUS PC Probe one?

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I think something isn't right. It could be that the IHS isn't flat.

You guys think 70c load is bad at 1.5v check this out. Stock speeds, full load.

If the heatpipes are getting hot, you're making at least some good contact.

That said, that paste pattern on your block is abysmal. Some lapping may be in order. Those temps at 1.2v are way over the top too.

Some lapping and a new HSF may be the ticket.

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

If the heatpipes are getting hot, you're making at least some good contact.

That said, that paste pattern on your block is abysmal. Some lapping may be in order. Those temps at 1.2v are way over the top too.

Some lapping and a new HSF may be the ticket.

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Mike,
I'm as confused as you are lol.

I suppose I can start lapping. I bought this cooler in order to fix my cooling problems, not have more lol.


BTW, to answer your other question. I love the case :)

think that the conroe ihs may not be that flat...?

You should try lapping the conroe IHS,

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=4735

Here you Go.

Wes,

If the heatpipes are too hot to touch then the heat transfer is occuring so I doubt lapping will make a massive difference. You're trying to lose 40C not 1-2C are you not ?

Assuming the temp monitoring software is right ( your fingertips confirming this ) then it seems that the heatsink is becoming saturated with heat. Now I would imagine you do have good airflow going through it so that will not be an issue.

Are the fins getting warm as well as the heatpipes ? Where are the heatpipes warmest ?..are they at least warm at the tops of the pipes ? If it is at the cpu end then I wonder if your heatsink has a structural problem and the heatpipes are not working ... RMA it and get a new one in that case ?

Regards

Andy

some more pics of the scythe unit in action.

http://www.pro-clockers.com/FCKedito...ture%20050.jpg

http://www.pro-clockers.com/FCKedito...ture%20045.jpg

http://www.pro-clockers.com/FCKedito...ture%20046.jpg

http://www.pro-clockers.com/FCKedito...ture%20047.jpg

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Originally Posted by WesM63

Yea, i'm going to have to get my dremel back and fix the HS so it doesn't hit. There is no way it should be 70c, like zakelwe said the HS should be warm..its cold to the touch.

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You know the freezer pro for the abit aw8max i am using , its a PentiumD @4.2ghz and it runs idle at 28c. ALsoits still cold to touch.

The board you have I read a review on it and its the back plate that messes things up. I too have purchased the Infinty and I am a happy owner but now i have to find the right board. If anything more people will have learnt that the HSF may not be for everyone or its the dremel if people still buy it , i guess.

Also how you guys get banners strike board smileys?

@dubs , did you have any problems putting it up? and the temps all good on your end.

guess i am lucky as i havent had to break out the dremel.

Same direction setup of P5W DH as Dubz, dremel thing worked out, was quite worried when I was covered and the HSF as well in tiny metal shavings but managed to get them all off.

PC booted and Windows is installed, so far posted no problem 1.30 @ 3ghz and then changed to 1.35 and 1.4 and posted no problem @ 3.6ghz, I noticed though when going past 330FSB that the PC now does a power off and power on when restarting from bios or anywhere for that matter, very annoying. When set to stock speeds or lower FSB such as 325 it doesn't do it, acts like any other MB I've used.

Now that I have Windows installed going to run some Prime95, with Infinity cooler I am 31-32'C in bios at 1.3 or 1.35v when I cranked to 1.4v @ 3.6ghz it went to 36-37'C idle in bios.

Wanted to check my heatpipes on HSF and I was only barely able to detect warmth at all. Perhaps during my Prime95 they will heat up :-) Want to make sure I have really good AS5 contact with CPU before doing some extreme stuff.

Hoping SLI 7900 GTXs work with special 85.96 drivers tonight, would love to break 11000 3dm06 scores.

Does everyone else with OC'd P5W DH have this power off power on issue ?

So what you're saying is that both pentium777 and Dubz have a P5W DH Delux, and Dubz didnt have to dremel, but Pentium777 did. Why is that?

Dubz, can you please take one of Pentium777s excellent pictures (or take your own) and do some photoshopping to show where you had to dremel?

How is the temps now compared to the cooler you were using before?

Ok so far in Windows 31-35'C (getting new Trane XL19i AC unit today so its a bit warm in house)

But last night with ambient temp of 79'F I was idle at approx 31-33'C that's at 1.35v @ 2.97ghz

Full load test dual core went up to 44-45'C w/same ambient then with ambient up to 82'F right now it went to 49'C

I tried to put one of my 120mm panaflow FBA12G12H fans that has great CFM but the fan clips only support a skinny 120mm fan type so I'm stuck with the fan that came with it which is 1200 rpm. Fortunately the HS is so big that it is only 1" away from my rear exhaust panaflow and I think it is helping to draw heat away.

Still not really happy with temps to be honest I'm concerned I might not have applied enough AS5, reason I think this is that the heatpipes are not hot enough when I touch them, possibly because of high efficiency? Don't know for sure.

Going to run some more tests today with closed case.

Sorry no pics was up till 5am and fell asleep in my chair, wife gets up and has a bewildered look on her face fortunately no work for me today or tomorrow, lots of time to play with new rig.

If my temp seems to react pretty quickly to ambient temp do you guys think that I have pretty good contact with CPU?

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Originally Posted by Larsson85

So what you're saying is that both pentium777 and Dubz have a P5W DH Delux, and Dubz didnt have to dremel, but Pentium777 did. Why is that?

Dubz, can you please take one of Pentium777s excellent pictures (or take your own) and do some photoshopping to show where you had to dremel?

How is the temps now compared to the cooler you were using before?

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All I can say is that maybe he mounted in other direction? Mine is mounted so that 5 heatpipes are toward top and bottom of case it is now taller than it is wider, actually had I mounted it wide it wouldn't have cleared my panaflow exhaust now that I look at it.

Definately though I could see it was going to touch mosfets and most likely 3 capacitors it was too close to want to take a chance.

Also forgot to mention got SLI working on 2x7900GTX cards with 85.96 3dm06 was 10,380 that's at 2.97ghz stock speeds for video cards

In comparison my best score was 9,199 with X2 4400 @ 2.7ghz not a perfect comparison because my system has nothing running in background now like antivirus so shave off 100-200 points and it is approx 1,000 increase

Going to push for 3.2Ghz now with 1.35v see if she can be stable an hour of prime.

Yep, the HS will touch the mosfets. You cannot mount it any other way, so i'm not exactly sure how dubz managed to mount it without hitting any mosfets.

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Originally Posted by WesM63

I think something isn't right. It could be that the IHS isn't flat.

You guys think 70c load is bad at 1.5v check this out. Stock speeds, full load.

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All I can say is that my CPU temp has never exceeded 40 degrees during a torture test with an Infinity. (E6600 @1.475Vcore OC'd to 3.3ghz@19 ambient)

If the Infinity heat pipes are evenly hot, then the HSF is very likely doing it's job.

You could simply have a CPU that's at the extreme end of the process distribution curve such that small increases in Vcore cause it to consume much more power.

I would definately keep it well under 70c and try and get your best OC at stock Vcore.

It looks like the Infinity mounting shows clearance over the black IC's. I don't think lapping will help that much but go for it if you're willing to sacrifice the warranty. However I'd get an accurate straight edge and run it across the IHS and HSF while holding it to a light and see how flat the surfaces are.

davefr,
I'll check it out when I have some more time. I just find it hard to beleive that both the infinity and my $10 coolermaster cooler cool the cpu the same.

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Originally Posted by xlink

humm... will likely want to be mounting that thing as to align with with the exhause fan... PSU can also circulate air towards the general area...


now all i need to know is if it will work with the DFI's lanparty board based on RD600
http://images.tweaktown.com/imageban...600tw06_01.jpg
http://images.tweaktown.com/imageban...600tw06_02.jpg


looks as if it should be able to clear the ram, though I'm worried about the HSF over the chipset HS(if it clears the ram thoguh it shoudl be abel to clear that smll HS but...), it looks liek the cooler they use voerlaps it and clears but still...

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yeah man that does help me out, now I just have to wait to see what it looks like in your new rig.

I am expecting big things from this HSF, and no that is not a pun....not to mention when I get it I can OC my proc finally.

Ok, E6600 I noticed a HUGE difference in heat when I bumped from 1.4-1.5 actually 1.45 was fine but 1.5v @ 3.5Ghz is generating serious heat, room temp right now is 82.6'F and I am running large FFT prime95 dual core, 63-65'C are my temps, idle at this speed and and volt I'm getting 42-45'C

I'm beginning to wonder if I am going to need to remove my HSF and reapply some AS5 :-/ this push pin stuff is a major PITA

Now my prime95 isn't stable at 1.5v 3.5ghz probably due to the 65'C, does not look like 3.6ghz is in my future sadly enough...

Earlier my ambient room temp was 74'F so I think that might have been helping quite a bit, I think some of these conroe chips fluctuate with juicing volts to them and get dramatically hotter.... Only way I can explain my results and Wes' results.

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Originally Posted by pentium777

Ok, E6600 I noticed a HUGE difference in heat when I bumped from 1.4-1.5 actually 1.45 was fine but 1.5v @ 3.5Ghz is generating serious heat, room temp right now is 82.6'F and I am running large FFT prime95 dual core, 63-65'C are my temps, idle at this speed and and volt I'm getting 42-45'C

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Is that core temp? If it is, I've been prime stable above that (75C), but don't really like running there.

What's the difference between your core and mb temp?

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

If the heatpipes are getting hot, you're making at least some good contact.

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I agree, the heatpipes are pulling heat, but you said you almost burnt your fingertips off. I can stablize core temp at very hot temps, say 60, during rosetta, but mobo is only 43 (this was after a reseating, initially the difference was typically about 13c under load), and heatpipes are no more than warm, which is good because the cooler the pipes, the more heat they can pull from the base (unless of course they're cool from lack of contact, but then it would be hard to stabilize temps). I wonder if somehow, the heat is not getting transfered from the pipes to the fins, which might explain why your base looks like it's been heat treated. Either that, or you just have one really hot cpu.

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Originally Posted by WesM63

Well i just played with it for about 2hrs trying to get my temps down. I have something wrong.. either its still hitting on something or the base on this thing blows bigtime. (You'll see here in a sec.)

I looked it over carefully and don't see it hitting anything.. but it might still be.
I mounted and re-mounted the dang thing 5-6times.. all resulting in the same temps.
Tried mounting it the other way (skinny side facing ram slots), and it will not go on this way. The HS hits capacitors on the top, no way to fix this.
I also put a 130cfm fan on it instead of the stock fan, temps dropped 1-2c.
Touched the heatpipes at 70c full load and nearly burnt my finger tip off.
Thinking maybe thats just how hot it runs, put the coolermaster crap i have back on. SAME EXACT TEMP UNDER LOAD AS INFINITY. Now, something has to be wrong here.

I don't know what else to try at this point. Once again i'm aggervated at this system. Half tempted to buy another cooler and try it.

Here are some pics, check out the bottom of the HS pic. Doesn't look right, what would cause that?

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=113475

See post 4. This cooler has too low fin density.