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In the residential or enterprise markets? As I said, nearly 80% of enterprise buildings already have fibre. It was at about 50% all the way back in 2000 so growth in that area has slowed slightly because most have it now.
Resdentially I don't think many people are on anything other than the orginal copper which is running out of bandwidth and QoS is going downhill with that. Bonded copper is going to rule outside the major cities.
heh, reminds me of this site
http://www.newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm
I was happy that Charter upped their speeds from 3m/256k to 5m/512k, they have a 10m/1m service but it's like $70 a month.
I was just going to mention this. Verizon are really pushing the speeds of internet way up here in the US.. if it's available in your area of course. The starting package of 5/2 for $35 a month is already being moved up to 10/2 for the same price in some areas. The next highest 15/2 for $45 a month is being moved up to 20/5mb as well. I think we're talking 5 years at most before we see 100mb/s for affordable prices with Verizon fiosQuote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
edit: and iirc the 30/5 package for $100 (or $150??) a month is moving to 50/10. Half way there already, and prices are sure to drop.. I hope :(
edit2: I was just reading fios reviews on broadbandreports.com, in some areas verizon is doing 50mb download for $90 a month :toast:
Till today i though internet in my country is the poorest on earth, but i think now i must love my 4MB/1.5MB for $30 per month!
Really? in my country when you can consider yourself VERY lucky if can use interner 512kbps with $300 charge a month without network disconnection and problems:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
sick just sick, maybe the French are not so bad after all.
It's okay though cause my GF and I will be moving over seas in a couple of years. Europe here we come :-P
Yay. EU is the best :D
And it looks like you have my favorite quote in your sig phelan:toast:
most likely they sell this 2.5G fiber nowing that just about no one has scsi raid arrays to even com close to those speeds. here in sweden 1/1G lines is 100$/month unlimited transfers and has been for a year or so so hoping they will upgrade my 100/20 ($35/month) fiber pipe to a gbit soon :)
I'll need to get a gigabit NIC and router once this comes to my area.
what country is that if i may ask? i somehow think australia or am i far of?Quote:
Originally Posted by zentrad
i have to say tho that alot of people here say what they are paying for etc but u dont always get what u pay for.
a m8 of mine is paying for a DSl 20megabit down line but the max speed he reaches is like 15megabit a sec due ot distence etc.
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Originally Posted by Repoman
nice.. hmm.. where r those areas?.. gotta give'em a call..
It might also be because of limmiting of the DL speed from a single URL, so perhaps he can/will get to 20Mb/s or more when using a DL mannager like i.e. getright. (www.getright.com)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
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Originally Posted by Steensen
depends on his ul speeds aswell 100mbit down uses a few mibits ul so if 20/1
and an upload of say 0.6 it will strangle his dl's
nah he tried it all and the answer he got was its simply due to distence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steensen
like most DSL providers the advertised speeds are the max speeds u get like when u live close to the hook up and cables r good etc.
Thats why i nvr care about the advertised speeds but about the actual ones.
btw anyone know a good way to test upload?
most sites that let u test Download, Upload connection and ping let u upload a really small file wich sucks when checking an upload above 100Kb.
You know what, I hate living here, I really do.
Let's stop blowing stuff up and get with the program, please.
What do you guys want to know? I work for a smallish ISP here in NW Ohio.
The bottleneck with these connections in france WILL be servers in other locations. Take this for example:
home (2Gb/s)---ISP Backbone (say 10Gb)---USA backbone(10Gb/s)---USA Server (45Mb-100Mb)---home(4Mb)
Yea the internet will be blazing fast until you try hitting that server, or just FTP to home server. This is the problem in ALL networks, your connection is only as fast as the SLOWEST link.
This is how China, Korea and small compact country's get away with having 100Mb/s connections. 90% of there traffic is Local, meaning it never leaves the LAN/WAN. (prolly 1-10Gb/s backbone).. The 80/20 rule if anyone is familiar with that.
Fiber is NOT hard to run or setup, it should be easy for even the smallest ISP's. I love how most people think all fiber is underground.. lmao 95% of our fiber is ABOVE GROUND. Ever see the black cable that is attached below power lines on Telephone poles? That is fiber.
I have over 50 small businesses on a MAN connecting at 1Gb/s to other (remote) locations. They receive a 5Mb/5Mb connection to the net.
I have both been in a fiberoptic education over a year, and now i also work with fiberoptic, and i wouldn't say that is completley true... 364TB/s is the worldrecord in speed (at least it was a while ago). And that is on just plain fiber, and that was achieved in laboratory. When you put the fibers in cables it would be much harder, as the fibers arnt just laying straight in the cables. Also the longer fiber you have you will get more Cromatic- and PMD-dispersion, which is the biggest parts that are lowering your bandwidth. So you probably won't be near that speed today if you had a cable in the ground that is some kilometers long.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Anyway, it's mostly the converters/electronics on each side of the fibers that is the bottleneck today, this as they tend to get insanely expensive with higher speed.
When you guys talk about internet, funny here in Sweden we can get 24/1Mbit almost everywhere. And if you live in an appartment you at most places have 100/10Mbit. :p:
WesM63: It depends on where you live, In Sweden it's the opposite way, most of the fibers are underground, and this is because you won't have any trouble with trees falling over the cables and cuts them of.
It may be much more expensive put them underground, but it's waaaay better looking at the problems you may encounter with them in the poles.
Bah I want access to the Internet2
that fiber isnt hard ot set up and that the cost of the cable itself isnt a problem is true .Quote:
Originally Posted by WesM63
The problem overhere in the netherlands with fibre optics is that those last few meters into the house cost alot with an already existing house and they argue to much about how to split the cost.
Also running ur fibre optics threw them high elektricity masts is impossible in alot of regions overhere.
Citys and towns almost direct connect to eachother wich forces them to put the cables under the ground.
So like with most things it isnt the cables that creates the costs but all the stuff around it.
btw if anyone here gets such a connection in france pls tell us how much u get at good news group servers.
Maybe that is your setup but at Netevents I got the impression that the majority was underground now. Maybe thats just in EU. Cable is more often underground anyway and so DSL is the only thing that currently works above ground. It doens't change the fact that, with the current Sonnet infrastructure in place, with 100s of thousands or rings, it is not cost effective to go in and rip it out. Its profitable for businesses because they are all located in relativly small areas but once you get out into the smaller towns you get very a bad ROI.Quote:
Originally Posted by WesM63
A small development of new houses right near where I live was outfitted with fiber (lucky buggers I live about 100yards from them and don't get it :mad: ) and they put that in all in a trench. The phone lines were above ground though.
Starscream has it right there. The cable costs nothing. Putting it there costs a lot unless you are able to put it above ground. That isn't really practical for long distances and is more prone to failure. Case in point: the pole carrying the phone lines to the new houses broke leaving them without phone for a week. If the fiber had been on that then they'd also been without internet and cable TV.
EDIT: Wes, you realise that the entire internet is a WAN right?
Was gonna mention that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Getttosmurf
Forget :banana::banana::banana::banana: d/l :p:
2.5Gb/s = 312MB/s
Link at its max is usually 70-90%, so we need hard drives that can write at around 250MB/s
How many of you have such drives? :p:
My raptor raid 2x74GB can do around 140MB/s max
I hooked up a fiber based internet connection in my office. It is 10MB up 10MB down. I was so geeked up to play CounterStrike over it and pwn everyone - then I realized that the Watchguard FIREWALL it runs through is slower than hell! Forget the speed of the local server.
Was that on carrier ethernet then? I didn't think even the fiber DSL/cable were symmetric.
Here at least 95% of the fiber is above ground. We do have some in ground but no where near as much as above ground.
Not sure where your going with this question or why you even asked it. Yes I know the internet is a "WAN"... This is what I do for a living.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
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