[Asus+Dothan]Dead BH5 - Here is the TUT to fix it!

Hi guys I've got a problem which may be solved by this SPD-programming.

I've got a P4GPL-X, and my board revision is that one who can't change vcore :( Unfortunately it can't change divider either! Or, well, it can, but not much. Here is a simple chart with results.

FSB (in BIOS)| DRAM Freq (in BIOS)| Divider for real
166 Auto 1:1
180 Auto 1:1
180 360 5:4
199 Auto 1:1
199 398 5:4
200 Auto 5:4
200 400 5:4
211 Auto 5:4
211 422 5:4

As you can see, the only way to make it 1:1 is to have a FSB below 200 and use the Auto Setting. Worth saying is that if I have 199 and 1:1 I can raise the FSB above with the mem still in 1:1 using Clockgen or SetFSB.

One thing that I found strange is that my SPD looks like this:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060816/Capture009.jpg

So it should be 5:4 with 166+, or at least it should be 1:1 'til 207,5 (166*5/4), but now it is 1:1 until 199 and then 5:4. A bot strange. The mem is Old Buffalo old BH-5 (I can take a pic of the chips if necessary). I believe that it is some old value-memory from the time when BH-5:s were on quite a lot of mem sticks.

But, if I reprogram the SPD with Thaiphoon so that it says that it has like 250MHz as the highest Frequency instead of 166, could it then be possible to run 1:1 over 200 with Auto? It seems that it could be problems, according to the problems I just described.

And, does it matter if it is old or new BH-5:s? Maybe I'll try Mushkin Redline XP4000, will it work? Will it work if it isn't BH-5 but other Winbond-chips like CH-5 or BH-6 or UTT?

haha that works to good lol but i just turned my 512 stick into a 256 stick :slapass: lol now as to what i got going 2x256 SPDed to 3-3-3-8 And a 512 stick of ch-5 I need SPDed to 3-3-3-8 all are corsair and need the same spd for windows to see the 1 gig . so I made a copy of my 256 and dunp to my 512 and guess what it worked lol now i got 768:nono: NOW what anyone got a 512 corsair stick with SPD 3-3-3-8?

Is there a way just to reprogram the 3-3-3-8

ch-5 and bh-5 will not run at cas 3.0

well this is true but I can set the Bios to run anything it needs but for the bios to see the mixed matched sticks they got to be SPD the same

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Originally Posted by Chaos-PL

i set vdim 3.3v + 0.03
@3.4v and above i got errors in memtest and they are unstable

and YES .. my DFI runs with 2x512 and 2x256 perfectly .. but with 2T...

Before i go to sleep I removed 2x256 and i put my 2x512 in the orange slots...
I wake up this morning pressed power on my PC ... and voila ... I'm in Windows now with 1gb of ram..
http://chaos.dracopc.com/pub/ch-5.png

i don't know why they behave like that :(

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Chaos-PL Is it posable you could e-mail me a dump off one of your 512s and one of your 256s so i can get mine to work together

Anyone having problems with Thaiphoon saying the trial is over? Every time I try and use it I just get trial is over and you cant write with the demo, only read.

Even on a fresh OS I was only able to to one write and now trial is over again. :/

It's the same problem for me ATM. So, you are not alone. :)

I even had one version once which never ended the trial state, i.e. I could use it as long as I wanted. It was a beta. Unfortunately I seem to have lost that version. :(

What doesnt make sense is I dont see an option to purchase on the site. What is the point of a 15 day trial if it's freeware?

Eldonko, any problems to contact by e-mail?

EDIT: NVM....just received the email :)

Just played around with my Twinmos SP3500 bh-5, with clockgen and CPU-Z. One 512MB dead, the other 512MB worked. The dead one didn`t work with the Asus P4GD1 card that I played with, but works well on another Asus motherboard with SIS-chipset (P4S533-MX). Tried to fix the dead one with Thaiphoon burner but it will not save the settings that I tries to write to it, dumped the working chip and tried with that dump. So what to do?
This is what CPUZ says about my memory on the Asus P4S533-MX:

http://home.no/ochell/new/dott/f0kked_lol.JPG

with my jetway i845 motherboard i couldn't re-write the SPD if the chip wasn't in memslot 1, so you can always to put the "bad" one there and re-write the SPD.

Tried both of the slots, no failure messages or something with the thaipoon burner and writing to the SPD. Looks like the SPD can`t be reprogrammed it looks like? :stick:

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Originally Posted by VVJ

Eldonko, any problems to contact by e-mail?

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VVJ, I received an email from you (or someone) that you don't work with American's anymore? So are you saying that I cannot pay for a key for the program?

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

VVJ, I received an email from you (or someone) that you don't work with American's anymore? So are you saying that I cannot pay for a key for the program?

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Alao I want to buy this programm and sent email to cbid@amdclub.ru , no response. Please let me know how to buy it. Also I found it doesn't work on Dell Inspiron 600M and B130 Laptop

Thyf 3.10 RC1 has been released. The new version features a new tool called Timing Profile Editor that simplifies editing of DRAM Timings both for DDR-SDRAM and DDR2-SDRAM memory modules. A screenshot is below. There is also a new 15-day trial period. Have fun, guys!

http://jungle.mam.by/work/thyf310rc1.gif

No need to overpay to brand name memory sticks with EPP, just download a new version of Thaiphoon Burner 3.20 beta 1 and create your own DDR2 EPP-compliant memory modules! If you don’t like your EPPs you can edit them and flash them immediately! Showshock Softnology is the first in this occupation! Enjoy!

http://jungle.mam.by/work/thphn32b.gif

Got one dead OCZ EB 3500 512MB working today with Thaiphoon Burner, thanks guys! :toast:

Kamerat, any suggestions? I’ll take them into considerations.

How about i5000x support so we can edit spd's of FB-DIMM's?

does anyone know which pins to cover on a non-booting DDR2 stick...dead D9GMH here :( that i would love to fix

Got my Twinmos SP 3500 512MB working yesterday. :toast:
Looks like the SIS chipset on my reserve P4 setup won`t write to SPD, used another mobo to get it working. Nice app guys. :)

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Got my Twinmos SP 3500 512MB working yesterday. :toast:
Looks like the SIS chipset on my reserve P4 setup won`t write to SPD, used another mobo to get it working. Nice app guys. :)

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can you say something more? and can you upload somewhere that dump that make your memory alive again?

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Originally Posted by Chaos-PL

can you say something more? and can you upload somewhere that dump that make your memory alive again?

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Here is the dump that made my memory work again, got it from the other stick I got: http://home.no/ochell/new/dott/TwinmosSP3500_BH5.thp
Used an old mobo with some via chipset to fix it, think it was some amd setup (not to sure though, just "borrowed" it 5 minutes from a buddy on a LAN to fix the SPD) :D

Couldn`t even boot with the dead SPD on my P4GD1 board with it. But it worked fine on two other mobos, except for the SPD-info that you can see in my post over.

Thaiphoon Burner 3.20 Final

http://jungle.mam.by/work2/thaif320f.gif

There is also program SPDTool from TechPowerUp
http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/SPDTool_061.zip

It's absolutely free, but with very strange interface.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=20349

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Originally Posted by Compiller

There is also program SPDTool from TechPowerUp
http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/SPDTool_061.zip

It's absolutely free, but with very strange interface.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=20349

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This is no strange interface. This is HEX my friend. :D

celemine1Gig, SPDTool's GUI is really strange.

Well, a question of taste. I'd rather call it uncommon than strange.

FANTASTICO......the op for this thread deserves a medal. Infact I suggest we promote him to ALMIGHTY UBER KLASSIC TECH MASTER :)

It's alive......it's aliiiiiive :up:

Must admit though, my friend thought I was crazy when I asked him if I could take his dump :ROTF:

Yesterday my friend from takeMS International AG company gave me some value comments as to the last Thaiphoon Burner 3.2.0.8. For example, the Profile Enhance couldn’t set 533.33 MHz (1.875 ns) for the memory clock frequency. This frequency is mentioned in the NVidia EPP Specification separately. Now everything is OK and the new version will be released soon.

Great news guys! Thaiphoon Burner 4.0 is almost complete. For the moment, Thaiphoon Burner 4.0 is capable of supporting DDR3 SPD 1.0 specification and is can create and edit Intel XMP profiles. Here are some pics…

http://cbid.at.tut.by/work/thaip40_1.png

http://cbid.at.tut.by/work/thaip40_2.png

We are the first!

Thaiphoon Burner 4.0 Prerelease is now public available! DDR3 and XMP are supported.

Is there a way to edit the timing table with this program?? :confused: I mean not EPP/XMP or with hex.
I use DDR3 memory.

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

Is there a way to edit the timing table with this program?? :confused: I mean not EPP/XMP or with hex.
I use DDR3 memory.

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I am sorry, but Timing Table Editor is not applicable to the DDR3 SPD yet.

For the moment I am working at the support for the DDR2 JEDEC Specification Rev 1.2. Thaiphoon Burner 4.1 can already create more detailed reports than previous version 4.0 for DDR2 RAM sticks. The decoded report is based on absolutely new flexible HTML pattern and includes enhanced information on various thermal parameters of the module, including TCaseMax. I also have in my plans to decode a part numbering system for some popular memory modules. Additionally, Thaiphoon Burner 4.1 reads and writes data much faster for the Intel ICHs due to new SMBus source code engine. I have already tested it with ICH1, ICH5, ICH6, ICH7 and ICH7-M.

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Originally Posted by VVJ

I am sorry, but Timing Table Editor is not applicable to the DDR3 SPD yet.

For the moment I am working at the support for the DDR2 JEDEC Specification Rev 1.2. Thaiphoon Burner 4.1 can already create more detailed reports than previous version 4.0 for DDR2 RAM sticks. The decoded report is based on absolutely new flexible HTML pattern and includes enhanced information on various thermal parameters of the module, including TCaseMax. I also have in my plans to decode a part numbering system for some popular memory modules. Additionally, Thaiphoon Burner 4.1 reads and writes data much faster for the Intel ICHs due to new SMBus source code engine. I have already tested it with ICH1, ICH5, ICH6, ICH7 and ICH7-M.

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Thanks for your information. :)
It is a really nice program, even now for DDR3 to generate HTML timing table and save/write SPD dumps. I guess this is the only thing that works with DDR3.

Ow, btw is it also possible to write SPD not only from the first bank? Because now I need to swap my modules if want to update both modules.

I have just finished my work at Thaiphoon Burner 4.1. Below is a screenshot of the latest version that displays thermal parameters of the Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5 memory module.

http://zenith.at.tut.by/work/CM2X102...C5_thermal.gif

As you can see, Thaiphoon Burner 4.1 decodes SPD data in accordance with the SPDs for DDR2 SDRAM JEDEC Standard (Rev. 1.2).

I also have discovered that the best firmware as to thermal information have Corsair’s memory sticks and the worst firmware have products from OCZ.

Here is an unofficial download link for XS members only Thaiphoon Burner 4.1 build 1111

kakaroto

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Ow, btw is it also possible to write SPD not only from the first bank

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I am sorry, what do you mean “first bank”?

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Originally Posted by VVJ

kakaroto

I am sorry, what do you mean “first bank”?

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Well, now I have two memorymodules in memoryslot "bank" 1 and 3). If I load an SPD dump I only can write (fully/selective) the first module on bank 1.
I could not find a way to write the other memory module on the third bank.

I hope this is a better explanation :)

kakaroto,
Because SPD Hex Address has not been selected for the memory module installed in the third slot. By default Thaiphoon Burner sets 50h address which is relative for the first found SPD device. If you attempt to reprogram SPD of the second memory module by using the Full or Selective mode you have to change the value in the SPD HEX Address field which contains, as I said, 50h.

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Originally Posted by VVJ

kakaroto,
Because SPD Hex Address has not been selected for the memory module installed in the third slot. By default Thaiphoon Burner sets 50h address which is relative for the first found SPD device. If you attempt to reprogram SPD of the second memory module by using the Full or Selective mode you have to change the value in the SPD HEX Address field which contains, as I said, 50h.

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Thanks, I have changed the Hex address and it works :D

awesome vvj! :toast:

Thanks saaya!

But today I would like to share with a new unofficial version of Thaiphoon Burner 4.2

http://cbid.at.tut.by/work/thaip_4.2Pre_4XS.png

For the moment the prerelease version is available at http://cbid.amdclub.ru/files/thphn42pre.zip

In Thaiphoon burner version 3 till 4.2 there a little error

When you are on Report window pressing Read button reads the SPD but show a error window
ScreenShot

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/708...1907sr8.th.png

After press Ok all working but report cannot refresh until you press on dump then report

Compiller, thanks a lot for the notice! I have just fixed the error. OK, I am ready to give you a free license for that! PM me your regkey please.

Thaiphoon Burner 5.1 beta 1 has been released!

Interesting program. Unfortunately it quits and exits after I open it. When I try to open it again I get a message "Registration file has a corrupted header!"

Why is this?

Today I have released the new unofficial Thaiphoon Burner 5.1 build 1022. This new version is capable of decoding NVIDIA Enhanced Performance Profiles 1.0 into the report. There is an option to switch between MEMClocks and nanoseconds. Below you can see some sample reports.

http://cbid.at.tut.by/work/EPPDecoder4XS1.gif

http://cbid.at.tut.by/work/EPPDecoder4XS2.gif

http://cbid.at.tut.by/work/EPPDecoder4XS3.gif

Here is the download link: http://cbid.at.tut.by/files2/thphn51b.zip

this version has different interface, how do i select which slot the spd is read from or written to?

CryptiK,
The new version has a calssic GUI since version 1.0 which was relesed in 2005.
Push the Read button and select the EEPROM address under the dropped down menu to read SPD.

Thaiphoon Burner 5.1 RC1 has been released! The new website for Thaiphoon Burner is now available at http://jungle.at.tut.by

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How about i5000x support so we can edit spd's of FB-DIMM's?

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Yeah, Thaiphoon Burner 6.0 beta seems to read SPD very well

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/08111...d7OKW5YTej.png

New Thaiphoon Burner 6.0.3.0 build 0116 has been released. Now it is possible to determine SDRAM vendor of DDR3 SDRAM sticks!

p.s. I am about to distribute Thaiphoon Burner as Freeware, but I don't have a sponsor so far.

Thaiphoon Burner 6.0.4.0 is available. The new routine for XMP profiles decoding among new features.

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090125/PA25n2DMGa.gif

Unofficial version of Thaiphoon Burner 6.0.5.0 is available! XMP Enhancer of the utility now supports the final Intel XMP Specification Revision 1.1! Now using XMP Enhancer you can create and edit XMP profiles of any revision! Besides, Thaiphoon Burner automatically updates the current XMP profiles to revision 1.1.

Thanks for the update !! I'm gonna try the XMP profiles with the X58 Asus R2E in a few days .

Stelios,
Thanks for your interest! Let me know if you need a free license for Thaiphoon Burner!

That would be very handy , as the trial expired from my previous tests .

Thank you very much !!!!! :)

dudes, is there a way to block the spd from being read at boot/post? taping the contacts or so?
thx.

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Originally Posted by c0V3Ro

dudes, is there a way to block the spd from being read at boot/post? taping the contacts or so?
thx.

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Probably, but I don't think the board would post. the SPD info determines the ram timings... Who knows though i guess im not the right person to be answering this ha.

Unofficial Thaiphoon Burner 6.0.6.0 has been finished. The new version features Timing Table Editor for DDR3 RAM. Now adjustment of DDR3 memory timings can be performed easily!

http://www.pixshock.net/pic_s/63108e...300bfb8b1d.jpg

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Originally Posted by VVJ

Yeah, Thaiphoon Burner 6.0 beta seems to read SPD very well

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/08111...d7OKW5YTej.png

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nice nice i will try write next time on intel 5000X with 2x2gb kingston fbdimms :up:

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