1.1ns with 512bit int?... (in my best Ace Ventura voice) reeeeheeeheeeheeallly.
Looks like Nvidia is putting the armor piercing rounds in it's clip. ;)
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1.1ns with 512bit int?... (in my best Ace Ventura voice) reeeeheeeheeeheeallly.
Looks like Nvidia is putting the armor piercing rounds in it's clip. ;)
i thought 512bit bus was to complex/expensive to be reasonable?
but the ram ns etc was already confirmed more or less by previous leaks and that evga would again bring a watercooled card was also thinkable (they did release a watercooled gtx rite?)
The quadro fan blows out in both ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I am not sure how much of what he is saying can be believed, but I thought his pricing talk was in line with what we have been hearing...650ish. ALso he seemed to confirm that the default speeds of the "non KO" EVGA cards would be 550/1800. So I wonder how high they will clock the others?
D
What the?
Zipzoomfly
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=322746
470/1700....what the f*? VERY odd :D :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=39597&stc=1
Edit..beat me to it lol :)
Woah check it out...
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=322746
GTX512MB @ 599.00... Not sure if it will stay that way but sure would be nice :)
BTW, looking at the spec sheet, i hope the core speed is wrong. If not this changes everything.....
470 ?!
Nice, I'm ready to order already, maybe they will be released before the 14th! :D
Doh, my eyes where playing tricks on me, I thought the clock speed was 570, 470 gets no luv from me.
So I guess we now know how they can clock that high, by scaling down the core.
Ouch...$50 below MSRP at launch :(Quote:
Our Price: $599.00
OT--> Srry, but does anyone remember the method for calculating memory bandwith ? :confused: Thx :)
Perkam
Yea?! Typo? I can't believe they put it on the web...still NDA right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Aw well..we saw an XFX do 580/1730....Inq told us 550/1800 stock...
I don't trust a single online store :D
Might be their "low end" version.
256bit interface so 512bit was wrong.
WHOA... hrm... that's got a lower core clock than we anticipated... but maybe it's volted well for good OCing?
470 mhz?
man im confuzed.
Zipzoom crashed ?
Lets hope so.....*prays it is 570*
BTW if this is there low end model, it falls in line with being a GTX with 512MB of faster RAM. At 599.00 list price that means the regular GTX's "MSRP" should fall as those are currently 599 too right???
D
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
But it seems people are eager to post the same information in two threads on the same subject, let's take away this inconvenience. :)
--Threads Merged--
Perkam
Yea mate, sorry....it's also kinda nuts to have two threads...anyway, thanks for merging...but now I had a double post!!@! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Deleted one ;)
I really....have no idea what to expect..honestly...$599 sure is nice :)
It all depends on how well Nvidia's Mem controller can handle it...ATI's seems to be doing pretty well interms of future compability and customizability.
Perakm
MWAVE is listing the XFX...not in stock at 799!
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=3000415
Also says ETA end of november....hmm
:D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
Like I said...I don't trust them one bit....they are horrible...
Anyway...I'll believe it on Monday...whatever will happen, I'm getting one...I'm not gonna wait again :p:
But I have a feeling they won't let me down...
799 vs 599....yea my ass :lol2:
[ati mode]........Karma !!!! :p:......[/ati mode] :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dnavarro
I wanna see some reviews of this thing though :(
Perkam
7 days...seem like 7 weeks.... :( :DQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
your telling me :mad:
I can't open my wallet fast enough lol
Exactly !! :mad: So stop posting this fast !!! :p:Quote:
7 days...seem like 7 weeks....
Perkam
yes - I think we all need an Nvalium. ;)
I prefer NVicodine.Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Either way, we'll see what happens monday. For now, pricing is likely the famous "pre-order gouging" that we've come to know and hate by this point... It's a common thing for pre-orders to end up costing more than when the product is actually released.
$799 though? That's just pushing it. Shame on MWave :slapass: .
So what we know vs the eVGA model at Zipzoomfly...all vs TheInq
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInquirer
470 vs 580 is a difference that is just too big...that's why I'm guessing the 470 isn't right....or just a very slow card compared to the OC'd ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by XFX Bios Details
Quote:
Originally Posted by 800Mhz clock test sample
Sow...what can we expect? 470Mhz? Not very likely is it? (would be dissapointing) 570 looks more like it.....typo? 7 days to go.Quote:
Default clocks are set at 550/1800MHz, and every manufacturer can choose a variation.
Well...
After searching EVGA there's no sign of the 7800gtx 512mb there, and ZZF has taken the 512mb 7800gtx off their site.
Looks like it WAS a mistake after all. Likely done to generate more traffic to their website.
Again I say it, it's been removed, no cause for alarm, it's not real.
Hey guys want to here something mysterious??? I posted the same info I heard in the EVGA thread at their forums and within minutes my post magically dissappeared. Nothing, no link to zipzoom/mwave or anything. Like it never existed. Haven't tried posting again though...... BTW the post did show up at the moment I posted so I am not on NVrack lol...
*prays to the NDA gods that ate my posts...*
D
i think it wont be 470 more likely 520~550 that is almost 100mhz more in core speed that is a lot :slobber: i want bench
I'm gonna take a little break and see what will happen...I still have to work this week (and my boss is gonna kill me if I hang around the forums all day :D)
I'll see what will happen... :)
Mwave is always overpriced IMHO
7 Days Is So Long!!!!!!!
Hmm, what's this?? A brochure that some vendor (starts with ZZ) accidentally published. Hope the spec is a typo. 570 would be nice.
470 core would be a little disappointing in light of all the hype. The collateral is dated 10-21-2005.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4766/evga6ql.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyH20
470 core :stick: :slapass:
470/1700 stock clocks?
Me thinks the XFX at 550/1730 might be indicative of how well these cores OC ;)
I gaurantee the eVGA has a delta. I looked through the leaked XFX BIOS at 580/1730 and it had no delta defined. That translates to a 540 root core in current GTX flavor. With the extra voltage, 1.45 VCore, maybe that's what it can deliver on the factory OC'd cards. So, 470 could actually be the new reference clock value. A decent 40 Mhz bump on the core over the previous 430. After all, it is still the 110 nm core. It all sounds about right with a tad more voltage.
Compare that with the Leadtek 7800 GTX Extreme I had that could do 550 with a delta (590 net) and no volt mods using the same Quadro heatsink and it all looks very possible. Too bad the Leadtek's memory was not as good as it could be (1350 tops). Still, if you can get a 540 MHz factory OC'd card (580 net, which is coincidentally the number thrown out by TheInq) and 1800 Mhz memory with a small OC, I would be more than content.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2...tled2ft.th.png
Rumours at EVGA forums says the modell with watercooling is supposed to run 550GPU and 900MHZ ram at a price of $560.
But this is just rumours, and hearing that the moderator was wrong about 512bit interface i dont know what to belive there =)
lol or 90nm for that matter :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I dunno what to believe too....I guess the OC'd versions run in the mid 500 range....stock cards? lol....Noooooo idea.
Nice. A paperlaunch that is vaporware. I smell BS marketing strategies. I doubt that pic in the first post is even a 7800GTX with 512MB. Like many have already mentioned, it looks identical to the leadtek one.
Looks like those waiting are going to be in for a real expensive treat :slapass:
lol.....paperlaunch? Vaporware? I think you just replied to the wrong thread, the other thread is this one :Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmad
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79331
Maybe you made a mistake calling nVidia paperlaunchers? I dunno.
Wouldn't be much of a Leadtek if it has an XFX sticker on it doesn't it? :slap:Quote:
I doubt that pic in the first post is even a 7800GTX with 512MB. Like many have already mentioned, it looks identical to the leadtek one.
And I'm sure they also changed the bios name to XFX with 580/1730 freqs :slap:
@Ahmad
paperlaunch? the 7800GTX512 hasnt even been launched yet so why a paperlaunch?
Ignore ahmad guys, he's been flamebaiting everything positive for NVidia for awhile now...
Ahmad, I don't know what your major malfunction is, but do you even know what a paper launch is?
If there was a paper launch, and it was all marketing BS, there would be no need for an NDA, now, would there? And, the cards are already moving through the channel. Some e-tailers have even been brave enough to accept pre-orders.
back this upQuote:
Some e-tailers have even been brave enough to accept pre-orders.
Guys, your views are overly simplistic. A more accurate way to figure out the power of an ASIC (and even this is overly simplistic) is to use P=1/2CFV^2. C=capacitance, F=frequency and V=voltage. As you increase the voltage you can see that power goes up radically. If you increase voltage you will always increase current as well. As for smaller process nodes, there are many node specific dynamics that will factor into the overall power consumption. It's not as simple as just plugging one or two numbers into an equation.
But using the simplistic equation above, you can figure out roughly how much the dynamic power will increase by increasing the applied core voltage and increasing the frequency. Then there's leakage on top of that. ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
grayskull...you fail to mention the difference between power usage and power consumption.....
This isn't sounding good. It looks as though someone got their info wrong (Inq), and we've been hyped for nothing.
Eh, if they're wrong, atleast it still has 1.1ns ram.
However, that still doesn't explain the XFX stock bios with 580/1730 clocks. Considering NVidia made him take it down, there's definitely something to that one....
Also, remember, it's very possible that the 470 on that ad was a typo, 4 and 5 are nothing more than a click away, and I've seen worse typos on websites, as I'm sure we all have...
If it's not atleast 500mhz core though, I'm just going to continue waiting, after all there's still another fish in the sea.
Cybercat, your making it sound as if the 7800 GTX 512mb is going to suck :p the RAM alone makes it worthwhile.
512mb is starting to be important with all the texture files coming into games. Most important are the memory clocks; consider that the 1.4ns of the X1800 went from 1500mhz to 1800mhz on OC, the 1.1ns in these cards might be able to go from 1700mhz to 1900mhz, maybe even 2000mhz on air.
And the cores are always clocked low for consistant stability. 470mhz isn't that great but if the vast majority break 550mhz I think the card will be just fine.
That BIOS could have been edited with the higher clocks. Look at BIOS from ATI cards. There is a program that can edit the BIOS to set any core and mem speed you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
I think the 470mhz is right and AIBs will have higher clocked card like 500mhz and 520mhz like the BFG OC along with the 470mhz cards.
im thinking ill just stay with 256mb gtx sli and upgrade once the 90nm comes out
I know it can be edited, but why would they make him remove a bios that's been edited? If they were edited to be that high, it wouldn't be showing off anything that wasn't suppose to be seen, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipingWaste
Now, I'm not saying 470 is wrong, but there's a very big possibility that it was infact a typo. As I've said before, the 4 and 5 aren't that far apart, and if you look around EVGA's website there's alot worse typos than that.
Actually, if you look around EVGA's site, that little faq they had on zip zoom fly(where he got that picture) isn't even there. Makes it a bit more fishy than it was already. Of course, seeing as the card isn't out, I'll fully understand if it's just not up due to that.
Even Mavke seems hard-set that stock clock is 550/1700, and he's seen the bios files already.
Like I said before though, if it's not over 500mhz stock, I'm not buying one...
Here is one.Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?prdid=17460
The picture I posted is a screen capture of a PDF file that I downloaded directly from eVGA. It was linked on the site. The URL no longer works. They removed the "leak", which is to be expected. You will not find it anywhere on the eVGA site after they discovered their folly. The picture was a simple way to post the info here. So, no web typos to consider.
Now, please keep in mind, that spec information is for the vanilla 512 MB GTX. 430 is the previous stock core. Now it is 470. Why would we expect more using the same 110 nm core? It only has an extra .05 V in the core available. Besides that, how many cards are released at spec? There are plenty of 490 Mhz 256 Mhz GTX cards are out there with the pint size cooler. I would only expect the same OC bump plus a little extra with the better cooler. So, 530 root (570 real) is about right. Add another 10 MHz for the better cooler, and we are at 540 (580). These are the core numbers that the articles refer. Expect to see 500 to 540 on the core of the factory OC versions from eVGA, XFX and BFG. I would also expect to see 1800 on the memory from a few vendors.
As for the XFX BIOS, it is legit. It is not simply an edited p347 BIOS. It is a completely new build (05.70.02.25.xx) versus the currently released BIOS versions (05.70.02.11.xx). The board ID has also changed, there are new memory timings for 1.1 ns GDDR3, and the core voltage tables support 1.45V. In addition, it does not work on any current 7800 GTX cards. It is not compatible. As for the 580 core clock, there was no delta. That is the same as a 540 core clock with a delta.
Why would we expect more? Well they really had me going with that voltage droop problem supposedly being fixed...
Did you guys see this from the Guru3d review of the 6800GS?
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/1...copy7ic.th.jpg
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/278/
sweet ass card
Yet another reason why I think EVGA made a typo in their PDF. Every other source, right down to the XFX bios has stated clocks in the 500 count.... Compared to ONE source saying 470, a source that has been taken down completely, and one that was never on EVGA's website, ONLY zipzoomfly.com.
I still have hope for 500mhz+, but if I don't see it...well...I'm waiting for Q1.
"Geforce 7800 GTX 512 MB quantities held deliberately low
Much less than people expected"
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27552
"Our story was confirmed by several sources and we learned that Taiwanese companies could sell many more of these cards but can get just a handfull of chips. It’s a limited product and it's meant to be limited."
Wohhaa (posted some secs after you=)
If ATi release a new card then we problaly go beyond $700 soon.
Hmm...so basically, NVidia is going to do the same thing ATi is doing with this card.
Release them into retail channels, but slowly so they can keep the price up... Like how ATi sends 20 at a time per store, and keeps the price at $599, NVidia apparently has the same plan...
It's not the card in low supply, NVidia is going to make it so it is in low supply.... Both companies are getting EVIL this round, and BOTH companies could use a good slapping, and I mean an all day slapping.
Of course, this fits right along with what I've been told about the bigger fish, as this card won't have a very long life, so keeping it limited makes sense.....
You really think ATi is sitting on all XT cards ?
As i see it Nvidia can charge whatever price they want cuz they have the fastest card.
Dont compare this to ATi as the profit made from all sold cards this far is almost nothing for that big company i think.
Honestly, yes.
Look at it this way, the only XT's to show up in retail channels is the 512mb ones. The 256 ones(the cheaper ones) nowhere to be found, but you CAN find the xl's everywhere.
The 512mb XT's are slowly trickling 20 at a time, gee, does this take rocket science to figure out... If it was a ram shortage, you'd see the 256mb xt's everywhere, as they'd want to sell those to effectively make double the money for the same amount of ram, so that's surely not the problem, and if it was a core shortage, there wouldn't be XL's anywhere seeing as how the "myth" of the XL's using different cores was apparently busted by people hitting past XT speeds on their XL's using the same or less voltage to do so. MSRP gets jacked up to $599, and they're being slowly sent out... Gee, I wonder what's going on. :confused:
Think about it ubermann.....It's actually smart business tactics, they both want to make as much money off these cards as they possibly can, and they're very well going to do it.
As for comparing the two, NVidia are going to keep the flow of cards slow so to keep street price up, just like ATi are doing now(only difference is, ATi is FORCING that street price up). It's the same thing basically...
Keep demand high and supply low = high prices. Thing is, in both cases it's either pay the high price or get an inferior card.... I just wanna slap both companies around at this point.
People really turning their back to ATi cuz of this.
You can see even the die hard ATI fanboys on forums getting pissed and going Nvidia instead.
People are not happy lately with late cards and no stock.
Thats not a tactic, thats a problem (in my eyes)
I think the first 256 ones that will show up will be the master cards.
I agree with you on it being a problem, but look at it this way...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
ATi *have* to make a set amount of money on these cards. By forcing the $599 price(except on oem, which means no warranty!) they can charge higher prices to the shops, so they can make the money they have to make. Knowing NVidia have their 512mb GTX coming, doing this means they all get sold(die hard fanboys don't care who's better, they just want their brand), at the price ATi needs to make.
Basically, while WE don't like it, THEY see it as a business tactic. NVidia apparently like the idea and will be doing the same thing.
Point is....nVidia can get them in mass to stores...but don't do it....ATI on the other hand IMO can't get them to stores, wether it's chip shortages (core or RAM)
So either way it's very dirty these games...but if nVidia hardlaunches the card....that Inq article will probably be long forgotten....it's expensive...but just like not many people can afford a sportscar or something similar....
Well Tim, there is one thing in that story that makes it a bit doubtable...
The reporter....Fuad.
You seem to forget things you wrote in the past about price on this thing.
Tim didnt you say that Nvidia would be stupid if they didnt match price or go lower then ATI before ?
But now when they mention "limited" and a price set at $650 thats already forgotten ?
And then we blame ATi for limited and price ?
I mean you cant blame ATi for any "bad" news with Nvidia.
Dont get me wrong, i really dont like whats happening with ATi lately and Nvidia is doing everything right for the moment.
People will pay those $650 so its not a problem and "limited" might make them pay it now and not wait for price to drop.
Personally, I haven't forgotten.... I think they're rather stupid for doing so, I understand that 512mb of 1.1ns ram can't be cheap or easy to come by, but it's not a good decision in the slightest.
I'm not blaming it on ATi either, I'm merely saying it seems like they're both using the same battle plan here.
The only ones to blame are the people who will pay it, because NVidia knows people WILL pay it just for the E-Peen implant alone.
Agree but how to make them set that price ?Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
I wonder what price their next high end cards will have, i guess they come as 512megs only.
Maybe Samsung is to blame for all this, or rather the lack of competition in that area for the moment.
No no not at all sorry for giving that impression :p: , I don't like nVidia for doing this...actually it's a bloody stupid move....but, prices can drop rapidly if it will be an hardlaunch...maybe not nVidia's MSRP or whatever it's called..but the shops will drop them in price (hopefully)Quote:
Tim didnt you say that Nvidia would be stupid if they didnt match price or go lower then ATI before ?
But now when they mention "limited" and a price set at $650 thats already forgotten ?
ATI and nVidia are both playing dirty here...don't get me wrong, fact still stands that there is price gouging going on for the XT because there is very limited availability (sp)
I'm not saying that it's right...not at all.... ;)
LOL, ATI has no agenda to limit supply strictly to maintain a retail or higher price. They stand to make one hell of alot more money selling in volume. The above retail prices we are seeing are set by the retailer and have nothing to do with ATI. Trust me I know having been a retail vendor for several companies.
In fact I would venture to say that ATI has spoken to some of the retailers and instructed them to not sell their product at the ridiculously high prices we saw with X850 PE's. Remember Allstarshop this January? If not I'll refresh your memory. When X850 PE released they had that card for $989 and no that's not a typo. Assshops price was insane for about 3 weeks before it fell below $700, but they we're also the only retailer to have them in stock. We are not seeing that BS with the XT. Yes it's over retail but that's normal for a high demand/low supply product.
They simply cannot make enough of these cards for some reason, that is all.
That's been out for a month or more. That nothing more than a 7800GTX 256MB card with 512MB installed. It's not next generation, same original PCB, GDDR3 type, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyH20
There is no previous 512mb GTX......it's the new one. Shows same pic as the Leadtek Extreme......Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
ok, Tim, ignore me, you know more than me....believe what you want
Tim, yes there was...original PCB and memory clocked at 1250MHz. THAT is the original one, not the new one UNDER NDA.
Also, FCG would know....he went on a mega-hunt for these coolers ;)
I dont think it ever was listed at Leaktek site, nor do i think it was ever sold one.
Hm....strange...anyway, doesn't matter...never saw one in retail channels....the official 512mb should be better :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
What i mean is that i dont think it ever existed =)
That is what I thought as well..... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Been looking, but can't find anything about it...
There originally was suppose to be, that's why the original pcb has room for 8 more memory sticks. It was to give board partners the option to add more ram, but no one ever went for it.
Either way, this *should* undoubtedly be a LOT better than the "old" 512mb card. Tim to give you an idea, google a search for 7800gt SLi results, in some cases the 7800GTX beat out 7800GT SLi(and NOT low res, we're talkin high rez + AA/AF) because the 7800GT lacked the memory bandwidth compared to the GTX. That measley 200mhz difference put the sli ahead of 40 pipes of G70 power, or should I say that 1000mhz isn't fast enough to handle 40 pipes of g70 power, and brings it down below the 7800GTX....
In alot of cases the G70 is heavily ram bottlenecked, and that just proves it.
well, the pcb was also used for the quadro 4400/4500 so the 512mb ram capacity was used in those markets, but the 'ultra' 512mb gtx looks to be an altogether better beast yet again - although I dont understand why Nvidia would use 1.1ns ram when they would still get the performance lead with 1.4ns ram - and would undoubtedly save a little money.
Simple one, go for the kill.
They know ATi can't release the R600 til next winter no matter what, that means after the R580 ATi has nothing to show til next winter... This is going to make ATi show their full hand on the R580 in 1Q(as in, not much headroom for it), meanwhile NVidia still have another big card to show. R580 may be in a bit of a bind, I'll tell you that much. NVidia are going to make sure ATi gets minimal sales over the next year, they're literally going for the kill.
Granted, ATi could just overclock the x1800xt about 100 mhz and 100mhz on the ram and try and compete with that, but that'd hurt their standard XT sales and they NEED all the sales they can get. People don't want to see another XTPE.
Basically, this is like a game of spades. NVidia first dropped the King, here comes the Ace, and next is the Joker.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27552
Reportedly, 7800GTX 512MB quantities will be VERY LOW, as the card will be "limited edition"
Therefore, expect very high prices, probably in the $700+ range due to shortage.
There is no "going in for the kill" here, there won't be enough GPUs to make the rounds to do that.
Quote:
Our story was confirmed by several sources and we learned that Taiwanese companies could sell many more of these cards but can get just a handfull of chips. It’s a limited product and it's meant to be limited.
Shadow, that was posted on page 15...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...58#post1127058
lol since when do we trust the Inq on all this....safe bet is to just wait and see what will happen....ofcourse it's going in for the kill....if you already are going to spend 600bucks better spend 50 more to get the best of the best....it's not like if you can buy an X1800XT that you can't buy an 7800512.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
We all know prices suck etc from both sides...let's just see what will happen. :)
My guess is that NVIDIA simply doesn't have enough GPUs capable of running at such high frequencies. In order to not tarnish its "steller launch reputation", NVIDIA is spinning it to sound like a "good thing"
Exactly tim..
We've heard sources "Rollo" say they'll be in quanity, Gibbo also said the same...
We've heard everyone say different things on this card.
We'll see soon enough who's right.
Gibbo always says these things "we'll have more cards than anyone else, ocuk will get them first, its coming out on the 7th, blah, blah...". I doubt i could throw Gibbo very far and i trust him just as much. (grabbing large fistful of salt from Perkams bag....)
I worry about the $ to £ conversion rate that always manages to sting us over here, you guys will get it for $649 and we'll probably get it for £500+, seeing as XT's are about £450 in some places here (cough*Gibbo*cough). Too much money.
del.
True.....I hope it's gonna be good...otherwise I'm gonna bash my head against the monitor till it bleeds :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
j/k...
Analyzing NVIDIAs previous launches it is okay to say that they will try their hardest not to mess this up unlike ATI. I am by no means a fanboy last year I only bought ATI cards because they crushed all the competition but now times have changed.
also - limited quantities will prolly equate to "enough for the peeps who will actually pull the trigger on buying them".. which is a pretty small part of the market I am going to guess.
Limited could just mean a smaller supply than the 7800gtx 256, which would make sense... Not many people buy the top-tier cards. As long as they can put more than 20 card every week in 3 stores it *should* theoritically be fine.
So I guess MWAVE is selling the cards early... check out this thread someone called MWAVE and verified the clocks speeds are 550/1800! Too bad about the price though :(
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=59593
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=3000415
edit* I just called them. 30 in stock!
D
yup i called as well .. 550/1800 instock and ready to ship .. lol for over 800 total
I think MWave is just goudging. Just wait til they're no longer the only ones selling them.
holy cattle.. so they're not just bsing us.. well, they sort of are... that price is bs. lol