can't wait for a pic w/ that setup, and nice di smoke risin out of it :D
edit: with the opti that is
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can't wait for a pic w/ that setup, and nice di smoke risin out of it :D
edit: with the opti that is
TDX, 1/2in ID tubing, too much coolant, an okay heatercore with two crappy fans, res, MCW50, D4. Working on getting better fans and possibly a better rad.
And about that Mousepot....;)
now we're talking :guitar:
Vapo could you please test 2.5-2-2 1T with ballistix @ 250 and 2-2-2 1T with UTT at 250Mhz? I don't care about CPU mhz per se other than staying same in both test.. just want to see which memory I should go with which is faster and by how much\.
Saw some ballistix for $59 recenty for 512!
My Ballistix can't do that....I don't know of any 1GB sticks that can, actually. I'd definitely hedge my bets on the 2-2-2 though ;)
I got the Prime that was linked in an earlier post and tried the "large" test, but I get instant failure at any speed. Seems bugged. I'll take another stab at it in the next few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
try OCCTQuote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
can you get 3Dmark05 running? or any 3d bench you can find.
My final SPI tests:
8M: 3150MHz
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1...vpopped2mw.png
1M: 3175MHz
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3...vpopped3em.png
Expect a 32M within the next 2 hours. Maybe some 3D action too ;)
Hey Vapor, nice results
:)
I see you voltage is slowly going up, heheheee, u r using cold water arnt you? It looks like these Opty can scale with volts as long as the temperature is brought down!. You are the first person ive seen pushing tht kind of voltage through a Opty (ok afireinside did but tht didnt count :D )
Lookin forward to more results
oh man, mine scales amazingly with temps. remember how lame it was oc'ing before?Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
20c idle ~30c load, put the heatercore up to some cold air. here's what i managed with 1.62-1.65v:
3310mhz screen with 3044mhz sPI 1m. there is no question that it's still lacking a bit though :p:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=40990
http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_50.png
(note single channel, that's why the score is so low. i'm kinda lacking two sticks of working ram that are the same size :stick: )
screenie at 3310MHz and highest 1M at 3044MHz....you are definately crippled by high temps or something.....that gap is too wide
Exactly what i'm thinking, something is wrong, the gap is HUGE...Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i venture the mobo. read my post again and see what temps i am saying ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i saw that but it makes no sense almost 300MHz gap dude...WTHQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Well looking like temps r making differences,
Going to have to sort out tht chiller :). Has anybody played arnd with some of the 'Advanced Chipset Features' in the bios. There are a few settings in their relevant to the CPU (using bigtoe's modded bios). Wish I had one to play with, i would play with ALL those settings to see if they effect max OC, hehehee
Thanks man...Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
No cold water here--it's actually QUITE warm at this point, LOL. In my experience, 52C is when Toledo, SD, and Venus start losing their OC so I just aim to keep it below that. Popping her cherry dropped a good 5C (you shoulda seen how bad contact was between the IHS and the TDX though, yuck) and from there it was all careful tweaking, I've been hammering this thing for a few hours now.
I might be the first to say this, but these seem to BURN IN fairly well--if a SPI fails late (last 4-5 iterations), everytime I run it it fails later and it eventually works. :D
As this isn't a chip I really need for 24/7, I'm fairly fearless with it--if there's a gain to be had from more juice, it'll get it.
Anyway, it just failed 32M at 3125 in the 15th iteration....it was on pace for a 24'30" or so. Not gonna run it again, it's kinda a waste of time, IMO :stick:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/701...25m165v2na.png
Time for 3D....I hope my 7800GTX is in a good mood. :woot:
What settings do you speak of, exactly? I might give them a whirl.Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
i have two guesses:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
1. i suck at sPI'ing and rock at taking screens
2. i have a defective mobo that doesn't regulate cpu voltage right. the only reason i would suspect this is due to when i run prime95.. whenever it fails, it's ALWAYS immediately after changing FFT size.
Looking very good,
Im trying to work out how im going to treat my CPU when it gets here, ive never started off with low voltage lovin, but recently I started doinb burn-ins with low volatge and found tht it helped :)
So maybe this will be the first CPU tht I start to coax more mhz by using low volts. Still many questions peeps want answering, slowly the answers will come to light, these things have stired up quite alot of hype :p:
Just a little piece of information from my friends Opty 146, he tried some prime95 stabilty tests, at the moment (as from last night) he's prime stable up to 3 hrs (small HTT's, please dont lecture abt which option to use, I know very well how prime95 works ;)) at 2.9ghz with 1.5volts.
Anything higher than 1.5v and the temperatures start going out of control, he is cooling with a xp120 and 120mm delta fan. These CPU's are defo candidates for cherry popping, hehhehehheee :D
The 52C u mention seems like a VERY reasonable ceiling to start working from, I hope other members can see if thy start losing stability with these chips at tht sort of temperature, ite would be a very interesting thing to confirm
welcome Expert board :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Just going to reboot and will let u knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
well if it helps you any, max stable speed for >10min of prime95 on stock cooling: 1.5v = 2710mhz, 55c. 1.55v = 2710mhz, 62cQuote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
i plan on it, with open arms. the typical dfi teething issues scare me though :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Enable the 123 Errata option under the chipset features, it stabilized and help my X2 big time, its available on newer bioses. (623-3 and up)
Ouch thts a big increase in temps for an increase of 0.5v, when u going 'pop it'? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Right the settings im interested in are the following:
CPU Spread Specturm
Errata 94 Enhancement
Errata 123 Enhancement
ACPI SRAT
The ACPI SRAT I would be careful with, I have no idea how this may effect your OS, as for the others play arnd with them and see if they make any sort of difference to OC
-EDIT-
nice find ben805,
u just beat my post, tweak away peeps :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
If your friend can prime at 2.9Ghz on air with only 1.5v.....that's freaking amazing!! :slobber:
Heeehehee 'amazing' is relevant to wht u are used to, if I told you tht he has a Venice (yes I know its half the cache) tht primes at over 2.9Ghz on the same cooling then 2.9ghz wouldnt be so 'amazing' to him, LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by ben805
But it is still very good!! :)
Something tht concerned me though is tht even though the CPU primed upto 3hrs, he didnt stop it but it rebooted his CPU! I find this very strange behavoir, usually prime should just fail, a reboot tell me tht he may have spikes on his CPU voltage. A rock stable CPU voltage line is a must for pushing these babies
perhaps a picture of my half-assed attempt to lap the heatsink, then giving up will show you why the temp increase is so massive:Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
http://eclipseoc.com/phpwcms_filestorage/1/1_39.jpg
i just gave up. way too rounded. i'll play with it when i get bored someday :toast:
i'd like to see some max cpu speeds for 3dmark2003 vs max cpu speeds for superpi 8-32M see if it behaves the same as FX-57 in that 3d2k3 needs more vcore to pass than other benchmarks
i wouldn't be concerned about that...i had a couple of Week 17 EPMW Venice CPUs and week 16 GPAW CPU......week 17 CPUs would stop with an error in Prime or SuperPI or OCCT.........week 16 on the other hand would just reboot or hardlock....strange CPUs.........week 16 was 32M SuperPI stable at 2.9GHz....if I went 1MHz higher in HTT.....reboot...hehehe with Wk17 CPUs they were stable up to 2850/2875 in 32M if i tried Spi even at 2950 on them it would just error but not crash/reboot......also I needed less Vcore with Week16 for SPI/more for 3D but I needed more vcore with Week17s for SPI/less for 3DQuote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
anyone try and lay the smackdown on the dual core opti's yet?
one user is getting his early next week at OCAU...Opteron 175....hopefully he'll OC it a bit...i'll post results if it happensQuote:
Originally Posted by dsumanik
Well it seems my GTX is in a very good mood to run fast but seems to get lost....it's scoring lower on higher clocks (and it is actually running the higher clocks according to RT) than what it used to....I did manage to pull a 37.4k in 01, even with a lowly Nature score :stick:
Not gonna try AQ3 or 03/05 until I figure out what's up with my GTX (it's running a whole 50MHz higher than it did a few weeks ago--and actually running it too--but scoring lower).
As for the 4 other settings in the BIOS--those are mainly for dual core processors, IIRC.
EDIT: I think I may have a solution to my GTX problems.
soooo any DI action yet
looks like the Dual Core Opteron 175 dude's got to wait for the Expert board which is a couple of weeks away..... :(
Omg :stick: wish i could get that Opteron :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Took out the 146 and put back in the 144. With a bad mb it's hard to do much. Went back to default Vcore and was able to get this. With new mb I know it will go higher.
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/7...occt2gn.th.jpg
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/maxstable4.jpg
Ok here is my last half assed attempt for today. I just did a quick SPi8M run at 290 @ 1.4 + I think 6.6% I dont remember for the life of me. I used a 5/6 dividier. temps idle for 37-38 and while SPi'ing it ramped up to 45, the highest during the 5 minutes.
I know this isn't the greatest OC because everyone else has extreme cooling but I only have my air and it's pretty hot here in CA. This morning was actually pretty cool to my surpise so i tried my luck and I think I did ok. I'll have time later tonight to tweak some more. Also for some reason choosing 1T/2T command clock isn't showing up in my bios. it disappeared from the options so i'm gonna hve to install a64 tweaker later tonight. I won't be able to check the forums until later tonight. this is my personal best with the 10x multi. I tried 300 but the system would hardlock or reboot if i tried 300 and i upped that voltage to about 1.55.
Is that on a neo4? Not a bad OC at all considering the cooling and motherboard. Do you have any watercooling?
Yeah, it was a little cooler this morning. Just a few degrees drop in air temps gave me my best run yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by asianguy80
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4...4div32m9xe.png
what are your load temps with the XP90C
for anyone who wants to read it, i just wrote up part 2 of my review:
http://eclipseoc.com/index.php?id=3,29,0,0,1,0
:toast:
Anyone have any success with prime yet?
depends on what you mean. i'm >3 hours prime stable at 2.7ghz with 1.47v, but that was a while ago, i think i can get a bit more out of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jahjahbinks
Yeah, that's what I wanted to know.
well.. some of us will get to that soon. i plan on using this as my main rig for a while, so i'll definitly do a lot of testing to see where it tops out.
I will never run Prime on any of my computers--ever. ;)
Not prime but I did OCCT 2929@1.36v. My 3700sd would do it at 2900 but it took 1.6v. If the next stepping are close to this, I don't know why anyone would want to buy a sd.Quote:
Originally Posted by jahjahbinks
http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?i...930occt2gn.jpg
I hate prime too. I like OCCT. IF it will do 30 minutes, its stable above anything I'll ever need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Meh, I don't run my computers anywhere near their bench speeds, don't need it.
Well, the way I see it is that your treat computer like you gonna run SETI on it. Prime does FFT which is similar to SETI. Of course if you can get SETI going 24/7 then I have nothing to say.
Of course some people will disagree, so let's try this. Treat your coomputer as if you gonna play game on it, if you can play it as you would on any other computer from gateway, dell or whatever (i am talking about stability here), then I have nothing to say.
the problem is.. i never game. :D
Right on!
That's why I keep two computers, one that I do everything on and it won't go :slap: , the other I use it to :woot:
congratualtions that is a monster CPU......Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
stepping plz :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
My opteron 144 is on the way for only 149€. I'll try to compare it with a64 3000+ and a fresh install of winxp sp2.
As far as I know there is only one and that is on both the 144 and 146:Quote:
Originally Posted by 187(V)URD@
0530APMW
They will sell more in the next month then since it came out in July.
0530 u meanQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
I read it right off the 144 and still couldn't type it right, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
LOL, yeah, that's the only one in the wild right now.
i posted some OC results witha 0534SPMW Opteron 150 from Japanese guys over at OCAU doing 3.1GHz SPI....i'll dig it out :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
We're talking about 144s though :stick:
Anyway, I'll be happy to see the 3.1GHz 150.
That's a 150-2.4. That's why we haven't see that stepping. He didn't do any better then the 144 & 146. What's the price on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Pretty impressive....glad my 146 goes faster with worse cooling though :D
Who's going to be the first to post phase results?
Noses!
Oh, wait....:hitself:
Does anybody who has an Opty even have phase? :slap:
I thought that what you name implied; vapor phase. You don't have it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I chose that name because the Brine Vapor is my ex-favorite lacrosse head :D
I was an utter n00b when I chose it, too. Didn't even know was phase-change was.
And if I did have it, the power circuitry in my dorm couldn't handle it. :(
Alright everyone, I'm pulling my 146 out until better cooling comes to Ann Arbor.
I also want to check the kind of contact I made as 38C idle seems rediculous as is 54C OCCT load....then again, 3.18GHz 1M stable from a $220 processor with 1MB L2 is a little rediculous too :woot:
EDIT: VERY nice MM!!! :toast:
you guys think monarch or newegg will sell these w/out the heatsink/fans? that'd be nice, and cheaper of course
excellent work there MM :clap: :toast:
Excellent work MM!!!
w00t!
Even if they do, it won't be much cheaper for OEM, $20 at the most. And, w/boxed you get a 3-year warranty instead of only 15-30 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by VulgarHandle
vandi is price gouging :D :D
Shipping was like $15 :stick:
I would have been happy to pay more for my 3.18GHz :D
lol, 3yr, not concerned, concerned about $20 less, and usually free shipping w/ monarch :D
eWiz has 148 for 285
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=OS148BNBOX
Still waiting on 146 though.
You can sleep after doing that?
How about maxxing out the CPU now :D
You've got some nice memory and an excellent 146 there....w00t!
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rezag1000
Damn paypal charges and shipping is what makes it bad. I would prefer not to send processors. That way I can study for my Econ Midterm this Tuesday. :(
What OS? 2k3 or XPSP2? Load temps?
just curious...aren't these 146 suppose to be the socket 939 version? how come cpuz reported socket 940 on MickeyMouse's opti??
It says it for me, too.
CPU-Z's gotta catch up ;)
Just thinking....anybody got any ideas how to get TCCD to work to its full potential on these? I really wish I could use my 4800LA :stick:
Correction: That would be paypal that is gouging. :stick: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rezag1000
Yes it's a Neo4 Plat/non-sli. I think it's "decent" I haven't seen anyone else on any other forum that is using the neo4 plat anyways so i guess its the best for this board :p I dont have any WC. Everyone else using opty's are using DFI boards and I dont want to shell out the cash for another mobo. I'm probably gonna stick with 939 for a while and wait out for the ati mobo's. I'm eyeing the Sapphire Grouper board after seeing such a good review @ Anandtech for the reference board they were using.Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
What do you mean by full potential? like running 1:1? I have some LE's and they are only stable @ 280 1:1 with the rated timings of 2.5-3-3-7. For some reason my 1T/2T option disappeared when I reset the CMOS after my system wouldn't post so right now i'm stuck with 2T until i get a64 tweaker on the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I mean I can't run over 268 3-4-4-10, LOL. I'd like to be able to run 308 2.5-3-3-0 like I can with my 4400+.
i see what you mean. then i guess it holds true to some extent that these opty's don't like tccd on bp808's that much.
Check post #70 for my TCCD test. Ran my OCZ rev.2 Plats at their regular timings and top speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Guess I've got a lot of tweaking to do....later though, it's pulled for the week.
i really hope TCCD -BU808 are OK i just got some G.Skill 4400LE and i want a opty
Strange thing with these CPU's lately, my 0531 Venice seems to hate my TCCD too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
CPU does ok as long as i use a divider and don't let RAM speed go higher than ~270MHz. :rolleyes:
The RAM can do 300 2,5-3-3-7 though.
Seems these opty's like Ballistix much better, according to Jason's results.
What??? I ordered a 144 and then later ordered a 146. I received them quicker then when I order from Monarch(300 miles away). He quoted the the price and showed pp charge and shipping. I am well pleased with what I got from him and hope when I buy another he will do business with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rezag1000
Go to the gas station, that's price gouging. Your wrong to say that about Vandi.
Thanks Vandi, your the best:thumbsup:
congrats to MM on that 305MHz run....these Opterons certainly look like they have solid memory controllers..... :toast: :toast: :toast:
What kind of weird bios settings are you referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
It's unstable in either memtest and windows, no matter what timings/settings.
Tried every trick in the book, single channel is a little more stable but still very bad, dual channel is a nightmare. :(
Wow, these things are awesome. Keep the 3d results coming....
I would like to see some aquamark and '03 scores.
Does exist any Motherboard Support List for these babies??
I wanna buy Abit AN8 Ultra 939 to mount one of these, does it support?
Didn't think I would get lucky again after I had such a good time with my 144. But early signs are encouraging especially the low volts. Testing my TCCD (for Vapor) at non tweaked timings.
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5...0910div9vr.png
The only bad news is my modded mounting bracket for my Mach II isn't giving me a good seal. If you know anyone who has one to sell, please PM me. Won't test on my Prommie until I know I have a good seal.
Still on water.Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
If I break the seal on my IHS, does the mounting of a heatsink (xp-90 specifically) need to be adjusted, or will it still work fine just mounting it normally?
ps, is it price gouging if people are willing to pay? I thought that was capitalism...
Had to throw a lot more volts at it but the 146 is doing what the 144 could not ... 3.1Ghz! :woot:
http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/3...0910div4mk.png