Hey njkid32, what did you gain from taking the top off your X2?
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Hey njkid32, what did you gain from taking the top off your X2?
Well I took it off the first day...LOL But I first put it in and the farthest I took it was about 2.7ghz if I can remember correctly. Maybe less but it was the first day. These chips produce alot of heat so if your on air popping the idiots hat off will help you alot!Quote:
Originally Posted by eclypse
heres a ss with a 4mb super pi. it hasnt failed at longer super pi, but i just havent taken the time. for some reason i cant get mbm dashboard to show up on a screenshot, ite is showing some wrong readings, ie bios, mbm and sandra show vcore as 1.41, they also show my 12v as between 12.15 and 12.22, ite shows 11.73-11.85. i have to think a little bit about taking off the ihs. 2800 is about what i got from my 3700 sandy and 3500 venice, so its ok for a start. i am cooling my ram and the upper corner of the board with a 120mm on a zalman bracket attached to my optical drive cage. what kind of load temps would be safe on this? also, how would i run 2 instances of super pi? would i have to have it installed twice? would one run on each core or could both possibly run on 1 core? should i see any boost in 3dmark scores? i am running same speed as the 3700 sandy. thanx
edit i just realized that this is an 800mhz oc. not too bad for dual core on ok air.
http://photos31.flickr.com/38337580_39f27afaef_o.jpg
very truly yours,
politenessman
Nice..
air... no i wish though cuase it would be more quiet! hehe.
I'm currenty using this:
Swiftech STORM Extreme Performance 1/2" ID
The same large rad with six loud fans and 2 12v DD-D4 pumps.
My cooling or ship must suck cause the temp on the CPU can go up to around 44-48 with both cores pumpin.
OK first of all you should read this thread and set super pi up the same way by setting the affinity in the shortcut to run off of each core.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16446
Then make sure you use this bios the 704-2BT
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/sho...53&postcount=1
Now the only true way to test for stability is to run 2 instinces of prime95. Super Pi is a good program but wont stress your cpu as much as prime95.
thanx for the link. 2 instances of 32m super pi will do it for me. that should get me stable enought for bf2 and recoding some vid simultaneously. already running 704 big toe.
very truly yours,
politenessman
x2 10x280 1.44 vcore xp90/medium panaflo
ultra d (evga sli on the way) 704-2 big toe
ocz el gold ocz4001024eldcge-k bh die 2-2-7-2 1t 5/6 3.15v
850xt (7800gt on the way)
2xraptor raid0
2x 300gb maxline 3
2x 16x liteon dvdr
powerstream 600
blue wavemaster
njkid get on AIM !@#@$#!#!!
WoW you posted!Quote:
Originally Posted by -47-!
DUDE relax I am at work right now so I cant get on I'll help you later when I get home 6pm my time. My comp is currently running prime at 2.98ghz but had to raise the volts up a little 1.58v
I got mine running 2.2Ghz at lower volts then stock :OOOO Priming\BurningIN
im gonna pop the HS tomorrow, see how that helps with stuff. Shall report back. First time, so i'll have to try and keep my hands from shaking!
Hey if its your first time you should really read through the sticky that tells you how. Take your time even if it takes you 10hrs cuz its worth not killing your chip. If you want some help send me a pm and we will see what we can do!Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
Also why dont you update that bios or did you already. Then change your sig.....GL
ok guys 2900mhz in the house :) going to let prime while i sleep tonight ill post back my results... good night guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
peace perc,
Nice man, i see ALL x2's love the cold... crazy low voltage there man. :banana: Does your x2 run well on the 11x?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
its a 3800+... no 11 multQuote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
Well I figured I might as well post a suicide shot so here it is.
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
And when the mach goes on her... :woot:
Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Nice shot at 3GHz! Congrats :toast:
Man these clocks are awesome, I gotta get me one of these, but I might try and practice taking the "idiot cap" as njkid calls it, off of my winny first, reducing my chances of ruining 400 dollar cpu.
Keep the results comin guys...
changed the sig, going to do it today.
Has your Mach arrived yet njkid? Hows the results for it looking so far?
Well the mach has been here but I am still waiting on the mounting kit. But that will be here on Wed.Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
LOL yeah im sure it would if it wasnt upwards locked! the defualt vcore for the 3800 x2 is 10x.....Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
peace perc,
Here is my 3800+
CDBHE 0527TPBW
Dual Prime it at stock it never goes above 38c on Air
Waiting for my VX to come back from rma and then i will push it to 2.5
Got my X2 3800 15 mins ago :woot:
ADA3800DAA5CD
CCBWE 0528XPMW
1289869G500050
Benchies soon
Hey Perc, whats the stepping of your killer chip :) , VERY nice OC
ok heres ssss (semi suicide screen shot) 10x290. both cores ok superpi but havent tried both together yet, starting to get a wee bit toasty in there. will put a vantec tornado on later and go for the 3ghz. ite smart guard reporting my 12v wrong, but other stuff seems pretty accurate. my 3dmark went down from 33k to 29k vs my sandy @ 10x280, but all other benchmarks pretty much the same. is losing 15% of my 3d normal?
http://photos23.flickr.com/38861469_7846df6c23_o.jpg
very truly yours,
politenessman
ok 3gigs at 1.552v going to test it prime tonight see if its stable. so far it seems stable but i realy should prime it before i declare it stable...
peace perc,
Wow Perc things are lookin good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Well I mounted the Mach last night and no leaks so far. But I dont think I have good contact! I did put the IHS back on with some AS5 on the core but my temps are only at -12c at idle and when I put some load on it jeez it jumps up to +38c unless MBM isnt reporting it right... I am also having some instability now at 2.9ghz at 1.6v when I used to be stable at 2.95ghz at 1.58v so something is wrong. I'll have to wait til later to mess with it but I do like seeing these -0 temps!
I was thinking of unplugging the heat pad on the back of the mounting bracket but am afraid of condensation.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7...07177xr.th.jpg
assuming that picture is accurate to the minute, then you have no fans on your RAM or PWMIC.
Maybe that would help it?
Oh, and jumping to 38c means there must be something a bit up. I'd guess bad contact, possible the IHS is on badly?
I just installed my water, running prime at 2.5ghz 1.58v (where it wasn't stable before) hitting temps of 37c load, where my old xp used to hit 44c or so in this kind of weather. So it's looking good so far!
With bad contact, your mach unit's evap temp reading will show not much change between idle and load. How did you put HS back on? That could be causing your problem. You are supposed to clamp the chip when you put HS back on with glue, etc and let it sit for curing time (I suggest whole day) so contact from core to HS is good. Sounds like to me bad contact definitely or mach unit is VERY undercharged or have slow leak.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Well that fans are there I just had them to the side. My ram or PWMIC doesnt really get hot till I am testing. What I did was put some AS5 on the core (just a little dab) pout the IHS on and then took it off and it was getting perfect contact. Then put the IHS back on and took some more AS5 to the core and some crazy glue and put a dab on each corner. Then I held it together till it dried. So I know its not that. Unless MBM is reporting wrong. But when I go into the bios it says -14c- now it does seem to run cooler this morning than it did last night. Maybe AS5 has to settle? Dont know. Perc is going to give me some help later.Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
I dont think it has anything to do with the Mach cuz its running at -46c and when I am testing the Mach temps goto -39c.
Also here is another pic:
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9...07114os.th.jpg
hes got the mounting bracket on backwards i just looked at the pics he sent me... njkid 180 the mounting bracket the whole bracket not just the metal piece and you should be fine...
peace perc,
Yeah I am retarded! I will fix it when I get home. What a pain in the :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
at least it's not leaking or something, eh?
Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Hmmm where do you live again?
I just dropped by Fry's on the way from johnstone supply (HVAC shop :P) and picked one up of above stepping. Still in box, but one thing is for sure, last 3 digits of serial is 008 :) I've never had seen such low serial numbers... maybe it is from center of the fab which tends to be better quality (or close to it at least). Crossing my fingers. Think this is my 4th or 5th x2 already lol.
I am in arizona... Are you going to put it in and test it..Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
I got the mount fixed and its at -17c now. So there still may be a prob I just dont know. I know that I have good contact now and that everything is sealed up. I am wondering if I really need that heating pad that you have to put on the back of the mounting plate behind the cpu.
Nice setup there man ;) i hope your cpu don't wall you @ 3 gigz like mine seems to be doing... -4c load for now... running dual prime for 4 hours now @ 2.75 @ 1.51v
Until I get my temps sorted out this is all I got at this time.... I have yet to raise the volts :D
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5...15091mi.th.png
Sometime tonight, got this CPU for load testing on custom phase unit as my 4400+ is in RMA (dfi board killed it again... I love it) and the spare 3800+ is in my main rig. First going to do Zalman air testing and will be testing phase change testing to find out what is wrong with this single stage :PQuote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Gettin close to the WR there njkid :P
Hey man thanks-- What volts did you use to get your WR?Quote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
1.648 I think
Between and 1.648 and 1.69 made no difference in clockability, so thats where all my testing was done
Hurry up and vbreak it though, so I can justify buying a new mobo D:
hmm well let my turn up the power and see what it will do!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
Edit: is this better?
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/9...33336nm.th.png
Sorry this SS required a new post!! What do you think of this Justwoo?
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2...51167dd.th.png
Very sweet :)
Really nice job
What kind of load temps are you holding on that vapochill?
I found that my CPU worked best at -20 to -30
Well just so you know its a Mach1 and I am having some temp issues still. I am running -14c idle and like +20c under load so I wont be doing much untill I figure this out. I think I have to pull my chip out and make sure I put the IHS on with good contact. I have a feeling thats the prob!Quote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
This time, clamp it with heatsink right after gluing it :) Let it settle for a while :)Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
I want to try this bios but as I don't have a floppy I'm not sure how to flash it. I have used the cd/iso-image with most of the bios'es in the past. Works well but it doesn't have the 704-2BT bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
How can I do it?
You can always use winflash and just do it from windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by toreide
http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/winFlash.html
You can had the bios to the ISO with WinImage.
Thx! It worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
The system is now running with Optimized Defaults. If I try to up it to 10 x 260 it won't boot. Are there any special settings with this bios that I need to adress? Any guides?
I changed to the yellow ramslots as I read this is supposed to work best with my VX. Is this correct?
Here is a pretty good guide-- Try some of these settings and see if they work for you...Quote:
Originally Posted by toreide
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8258
Let's see some better numbers njkid, once you get the mounting right the chip will fly
I think I am just going to pop the IHS back off and see if I can get good contact with it. I have a feeling that my core isnt getting contact with the IHS. As others have thought as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Great, I'll have a read do some adjustments.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
I am now on 2.7g.
Good deal I am glad to hear it worked!Quote:
Originally Posted by toreide
Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
good god mate your chips is deff a beter chip then mine!! ive been on phasechange since day one and 3gigs is my max... glad to see you got the mach1 sorted out cause from looking at your pics you deff had the bracket on backwards.. also like i said in my pm to you i believe your iHS isnt on good enough and your not making good contact. do not try and mount the mach1 without the IHS it wont work there is like a 1/4 inch gap between the core and evap without the IHS trust me man ive been down that road before and i have the dead 3400 DTR (3200mhz cpu) to prove it.,.
peace perc,
Well its not perfect but I got me temps a little better now they are -20 idle and +15c under load. I am not to sure if MBM5 is reporting these right but thats what it says. So I started to mess with the oc and man I can lower the volts now and raise the HTT. I ran 2x prime for 4 hrs at 3.1ghz at 1.58v. :woot:
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/218...11290mj.th.png
That's awesome dude! Yet there is something very wrong w/ your mach1, i run a chiller and my chip @ 1.6+v never exceeds 5c load w/ a 100% load GFX card in the loop. You making good contract?Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Yeah, I am I think that mbm maybe reporting wrong cuz the cpu is freezing. Also if it was getting over 0c it wouldnt be stable at 3.1ghz ya know...Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
I also think the chip-controller isnt set right--does anyone know how to set this thing up the right way?
So wait, you set up MBM up for the NF4 and it reads -20 idle in MBM, but then @ load it reads 15? I don't think it's the mobo, i think it's the contact, or a crappy mach1.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Hope you don't mind me posting here. But here is my result so far on a so called value board.
Asus A8N-E
OCZ PC4200 TCC5
CCBWE 0529TPMW
a fellow TPMW'er!!!
much better OC than mine though..i need .02v more to hit that speed.
still working on it
how far can u get yours?
you need to re-seat it ...something isn't right there.....or perhaps you haven't sealed adequately.Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
2.75ghz is stable, but i'm trying to burn in at the moment.
Is urs an E6? Mine says E4 first then now it says E6. So confused. My max is 2.75ghz too. I think heat is holdiong me back. 50c during load is iffy for watercooling, especially since I have the G5. Probably needs a reseating or maybe the heatspreader needs to come off
50C with a g5? man.... IHS removal time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
but its a brand new cpu do I wanna kill it?
and your an expert on phaschange? there is not anything wrong with his unit. the thing runs at -47c and -32c under load at the evap that is perfectly normal for a mach1.... dont post crap unless you know what your talking about....Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
peace perc,
x2 cpus just runs hot due to the crappy heatspreader
Hi board
I have a question regarding overclocking the 3800x2
I just put together a 3800X2 with the evga n4SLI board. So far the maximum stable overclock I have gotten is 2500GHZ with 1.4 core voltage 5 HT 10 multiplier 250 northbridge
The thing is I took my my multiplier down to 5 my HT divider to 3 and upped the northbridge from 2600 to 3000 etc, The video controller is locked. Anyway the PC won't boot or boots @2600 then just crashes at higher frequency levels "no BSOD". And then after the crash the PC somtimes won't reboot untill several tries. Would it be fair to say this frequency cap is a limitation of the evga MB northbridge.
Thanks for any insight.
Steve
evga n4SLI
3800X2 Stock Cooler with Arctic SIlver 5
Gigaram DDR 3200 2GB (2 x 1GB) CAS 2.5 (Default)
evga 7800GTX
It's not crap.... i know he didn't get what he paid for thats what i'm saying... he should be in the negatives @ load not at 40c!Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
He got the mach unit from perc and the evap temps have been tested. It's a good unit... i've been working with njkid and we think that the issue is with the IHS contact, because he had to add the IHS to his CPU because it had been removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
@situman
No, my CPU is an E4. When does yours say it's an E6?
And my CPU doesn't breach 40c, i've got a D-Tek White Water Aluminium. Priming now and it's 38c. Maybe your isn't mounted totally right?
I thought I would post this ss just for fun!!! :woot:
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5097/33300fw.th.png
:clap: I think that's a new WR for x2 3800's :clap:
:toast: :toast:
:clap: :clap:
LETS SEE MORE :)
WR WR !!
he paid 300 for a good working mach1 thats more then a good deal. you know you cant always return shizit everytime you feel things dont go your way (hence your 3800 not running 4gigs!!) it's people like you that make the prices of shizit go up! plus im getting the feeling that argueing with you is pointless cause i realy dont think you know what you are talking about....Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
back on topic.
thats a damm nice oc njkid i gues that phasechange unit is doing somthing for you reguardless of what the fool says! i seriously doubt youd be running that over clock for any lenth of time on air... keep it up man lets see a worl record out of that 3800!!
@clockwork
hey i think part of your problem is that stock cooler. these things realy throw off alot of heat when adding v-core even a mere 1.55v is enough to raise the heat thru the roof! im running phasechange and my 3800x2 realy puts a hurting on my temps... alot of guys around here are poping the IHS off thier x2's when running air to let the core breathe a little better. i dont recomend you try this your self unless you are willing to buy another cpu if you break it but hey whos to say you dont already know how to do this... i see this is your first post so welcome to xtremesystems :)
peace perc,
Dude for some reason my temps just got better~! They are now running at -21c idle and like 6c under load. Hey get on aim....!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Got a 3800 X2 in the post :D and a DFI nf4 :D gotta see what this baby will do for me on air, then start saving for a mach/vapochill unit and get negative
Thanks Perc for your advice :)
I will get a better cooler maybe a water block. I was also considering an X90c but I think my evga N4SLI doesn't have the proper mounting plate for such a big cooler.
Max stable so far is 2.67ghz. Temps are quite high, 45C cpu, 48C pwmic, voltage is 1.55.Quote:
Originally Posted by toreide
How much more can I expect from a naked cpu?
I'll get a Thermaltake BT to replace my Hiper6 as I don't think the clip mechanism is suitable for a naked x2 :)
did you have to shave down the socket or use shims?Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
No cuz I put thr IHS back on... I think I am going to get the mach modded by chilly1 so I can use a different mount.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
You made me have to change my sig D:
I'm gonna get a new board, then it's on :explode:
Currently so far @ 2.7Gig, temps are a little higher than I am comfortable with ATM, 42~44c with 2 instances of PRIME95 Torture large FTT's stable with 1.44Vcore :)
More to come
Good stuff, what stepping alpha?
I'm gettin a Hyper 6+ tommorow, pondering taking the IHS off as well, it's a screw down HSF so it'd work with it, anybody tried the naked core+Hyper 6 yet?
Re stepping, see my sig :)Quote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
Dont buy a Hyper 6+, even though they are a very good cooler the Thermaltake BT is much better for an X2 :fact:
Hi guys,
I'm going to buy a X2 3800+ Manchester too, but I'm not sure if it is a good stepping:
0528 MPMW
Batch 0179
Any idea?
Are you finally going to get the DFI like you said? I hope you break it cuz that will force me to have the Mach modded. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
Yeah, I probably will
Deciding whether I should try a new one, or wait for the new boards to come out
The first thing I need to say is WTF are you thinking trying to sell that chip. Isnt there something else you can sell? Hell if you want I will run around my apt complex and steal a nice bike for you! LOL But you gotta do what ya gotta do!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by justwOo
Also get the DFI cuz its cheap as hell right now. Plus if we "upgrade" to the new mobo coming out ya never know what you are getting. I think I will wait till they work some of the bugs out first..... maybe like v2 of the mobo..
Agreed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
The best time to buy is NOW, then dont even think about changing till '07, it would not be a real upgrade till after or late '06 :fact:
I get an X2 3800+ today...the stepping is 0532 RPMW....anyone with this stepping?...is this an E4 or an E6 revision?...I have my MOBO on RMA and can`t test it yet... :(
Regards,
Primoz
Ada3800daa5cd / Ada3800cdbox = E6
Ada3800daa5bv / Ada3800bvbox = E4
Thx for the answer!...will see the results!
Regards,
Primoz
which 3800+ is better to take:
***BW
***MW
which one has a higher OC?
This mobo is having issues past 250HTTQuote:
Originally Posted by ClockWork
I was wondering if this thread should be made a sticky or not cuz there is alot of good info here.. What do you guys think.
Ehh not really sticky material, maybe if you centralized all the good info into 1 thread..
same here, alot of useful info.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32