apparently AMR is now going by the name MVP, and even this isn't the final name. Stands for Multiple or Multi-VPU.
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apparently AMR is now going by the name MVP, and even this isn't the final name. Stands for Multiple or Multi-VPU.
I'd even take it pink with green dots if it performs like expected :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkangyl
I think that might be Asus just trying to be different but I could be wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
Yep I noticed that too ( the lack of a second 16x PCI-E slot). Although perhaps they will be doing something similar to the Lanparty's with Ultra and SLI/AVR except being smart about it and NOT putting dual PCI-E slots on both mobo's.Quote:
Originally Posted by kraggy
I do not really care since I do not plan on running dual card's anytime soon, I just want this board!
Same here. This board is too good to pass up :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
Yeah Me too, And from What I've seen, Nvidia I think said It would double the performance by having two cards, In reality I've seen about a 50-60% or less increase, Besides one card with 2 GPUs seems to do the same and with less problems due to heat from a 2nd card being trapped under the 1st or Top card. In any case I'll buy at least one of these Sapphire Grouper motherboards depending on How much cash I have when I'm able to do It.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...pp_gruper2.jpg
anybody saw the power and resetbutton already? :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by chillingdude
ooo... I hope they keep that... one of the best features of the dfi boards.... :D
Been promised one next week maybe, if ATI let me post about it i will do a thread like the DFI etc.
I can also tell you many of the features on the board were implemented with the help from a few chosen enthusiasts, I helped with voltage regulation and ram overclocking, the mosfets being grouped and water cooled was just one of the things that made it to this board.
Lets hope it clocks as good as it looks ;)
me wants one too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
love the power/reset buttons a must!
I think a lot of people want this board too :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
:D Hm, anyone found some test of pre-released sample yet ???
:toast:
If the board performs, they could only benefit from such a thread, best bang for the buck marketing campaign by far ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Dude! ATi would be insane not to give us a sneak peek. Keep the info, coming all.
Has anyone heard of a release date? Is my assuming a couple months from now a little optimistic?
yeah the buttons are a must!
now i have to use a screwdriver to powerup and reset :p:
edit: can they replace it with some more solid buttons or is it just a preview of what kind of features the board has
Yeah, seen It. Question is, What is that 8pin Dip socket for?Quote:
Originally Posted by chillingdude
thats for unlocking locked cpu's
or bringing your cpu to oc'ings heaven :D
lol i wish, that would be pretty nice :p:
im pretty sure i could make love to this board, i need a new mobo in 1 month, and i hope to god that this is out by then.
Man what a beauty! It'll prolly give DFI a run for its money. (Wc blocks bundled?)
Don't missunderstand me now, but has anything important been said in this thread? I mean, would it be worth reading the thread, or is it just full of "whoas" and rumors? When is the release date? You should put some sort of FAQ in the beginning.
:toast:
No. Air cooling is stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
It says what it's for right on it.... SB PCIe eeprom.
Be nice to see these start showing up in the market. About fking time a builtin video motherboard had DVI connector.
If it were on sale today i'd buy it, then get around to nailing a X850XT pciE later.
Nice board,eh?
Yeah! I need a big jumbo fluorescent (think Playschool) style reset button that I can stab at angrily every time I push the mobo too far. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by chillingdude
The buttons are a nice feature, if removed I wouldn't mind. I'm really liking the look of this board,mmm...dual core+this board= :drool: I hope
jjcom
Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
The first few pages have some good info, maybe read up to page 5?
the 4 first pages are just people that are drooling on the board:D
including me and 10000 other.
wake me up its a dream :stick:
From what I've read the final version will not have 2 buttons on It, It will have in fact 3 buttons, They will be: Power, Cmos Reset and Reset. I found this little tidbit out at the following link below:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Cebit2005/Day5/2
i read that article but must "over" read that
button to reset cmos is nice too :)
Thank you Tony!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Now I won't have to cut and lap a bunch of small hs for all the mosfets anymore.
:toast:
It's about time they are "gruped" like this. ;) :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
It is a good idea. Just as long as you don't try to run them naked like most motherboards come. All that heat in such a small area would make bad things happen...
What would be great, for those that don't want to add another block to their loop, is if someone made a small heatpipe cooler. One that was tall enough to be right in front of the rear exhaust fans. That would probably keep them plenty cool, and be completely passive...
Yeah I wouldn't run them bare either. And yeah that would be good, But It would have to be able to clear both the XP-120 and the 7700 heatsinks so that all will work together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
The board will come in various forms including one with a heatsink and fan on NB and mosfets I beleive.
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationa...e/grouper1.jpg
i'll second that! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissolved
we dont have to watercool them, the cool thing is that it has the standard isze for the nb heatsink so you can put and standard size heatsink on there as well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
there will be full 16x for each card soon :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DudeMiester
the second 16x will be via sb wich isnt ready yet afaik.
rec e chips come out in 3 weeks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DudeMiester
And here's to Sapphire! :up: :up: Nforce4 can :stick: It, As there is a challenger to their chipset and from what I've read ATi has 5% or so market share in the motherboard chipset market. :p: :banana: :usa:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Yes, indeed, ATI has really come around within the last 2-3 years. I can remeber when they were TEH-SUCK! But not anymore, NV is THE-SUCK comparitively.
uh oh...hopefully ppl wont pay too much attention to that statement :sofa:Quote:
NV is THE-SUCK comparitively.
nforce4 has a challenger now but no clue on whether ATi wil be able to keep their prices competitive while giving the same or better features on their boards.
Perkam
no word on when it will even come out yet. I have a feeln it will be NF5 vs ATI
i thougt mvp is multiple vpu/card and amr is dual cards?Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
There is no NF5. Just NF4a(AMD) or NF4i(Intel) and the NF4i does Doom3 at 46fps to 55fps, ATi for Me should do fine. From what I've read the thing holding back the P4 with the Nforce4 chipset for the P4 is the P4 cpu as It doen't have a built in Memory controller as the Intel version of the NF4 has the Memory Controller and even an updated A03 chipset can't fix that, See the Hexus Review link below..Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD0xMDY1
http://www.nforcershq.com/modules.ph...ticle&sid=2625
Yay, this is finally a sticky :banana4:
Pfft. I think the Pentium 4 CPU is holding back the computing industry. The CPU design is like 4 years old! All they've done is add stupid instruction sets, shrink the die size, lengthen the pipeline and add a bit of cache. "Look! It's a new revolutionary CPU using never-before-seen technology! We at Intel believe we are teh w00t and AMD is teh suck. Dells are for cool people!"Quote:
From what I've read the thing holding back the P4 with the Nforce4 chipset for the P4 is the P4 cpu
I just realized that was very off topic, and I apologize.
Thats why we have the A64, and all these wonderful overclocking mobos.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
:D
For those of us that realize a p4 is at its end, and want something actually useful.. :p:
Just noticed that the target price is about $150. If that is true I think Saphire is going to kick some serious ass with this new mobo. I also really liked how apparently OCZ had a lot of input when designing the memory configuration so we should see some nice and stable memory interaction.
I look at this board every day and still drool every day.
the madness
Yeah and OCZs VX ram is supposed to like voltages as high as 3.7vdc and the timings at DDR500 are supposed to be in the 2-2-2 range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
$150?
Where'd you find that? If that's true, and it stays close to what the pictures show, I'll preorder the damn thing. I wont be able to wait for reviews to come in. :D
My BH-5 says "Please ATi, don't change a thing!"
Listen to the poor voltage deprived BH-5, don't turn your back on it. :(
BH-5? Why use BH-5 when you can have OCZ VX 4000??? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
OCZ VX4000 uses Winbond UTT, or CH-5. BH-5 is better than CH-5. So at the same clocks, BH-5 will win :D
jjcom
I highly doubt bh-5 will win and anandtech backs Me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
OCZ ram is newer and BH-5 is not made anymore,
Here's OCZ EL PC4000 VX Gold Memory + DFI nForce4 = DDR533 at 2-2-2-6
Besides some of those near the top in overclocking are using It.
According to the Anandtech article, This stuff wipes the floor with BH-5.
Quote:
What replaces "wow" when you realize that OCZ VX running at DDR533 outperforms the previous best running at DDR610?
Is $150 USD or $150 CDN? And where did you see / read / hear that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
And with OCZ PC4000VX Gold It's gonna feed some serious Ass to the NF4 crowd I'll bet, Most of which would need an OCZ DDR Booster, That's If It will work with their motherboard at all that is..... :banana: :banana: :stick: I wonder would they like that with or without salt? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
Because I bought it 18 months ago and it was the best thing at the time? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kraggy
Still great RAM. VX PC-4000 has more bandwidth, which can help it win in some instances (like Quake 3 at 700fps...lol). But a lot of the time, the extra bandwidth doesn't necessarily help any more than a higher clock...which you can get with BH-5.
VX wont go above 255-260, right? With BH-5, some people can get a bit higher still at 2-2-2-5.
Granted, I am not one of those people yet as I've only got 2.85vdimm. :(
It is in this article that was on the page before here. .Quote:
Originally Posted by qdemn7
Even at a price of $150 usd (with what our exchange rate is at) that price is still about the same as a DFI Lanparty.
I'm Sorry I might appear ignorant, but I have a couple of questions:
1) Considering the active cooling of the mosfets, will you be able to use 4v vDimm (through the 5v rail i suppose?) stable 24/7 without any mods? (Which is *NOT* recommended on the DFI.)
2) What exactly makes this board *better than* the DFI? To me it rather looks like its ATI/Sapphire twin?
Might sound a bit sceptical, but I've never had no AMD board in my comp before, and now this - seems a bit too good imho. But then, Array Technology Inc. did surprise us with its R300 as well.
i think most people like the design and the known facts about the board are really good (vdimm up to 4V and vcore up to 2V). nobody really knows how it runs and if its better than the dfi. but i think everybody hopes so ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
we can put Water Block on the mosfet... :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
until now iam confuse how to put water block on my DFI NF4 :confused:
I think the chip will do good and the sapphire board also.
Ati knows that it has to compete with an already well established chip, the nforce (which is a very good and mature chip).
They need to come out with a "bang" in order to establish themselves on the market. If they don't get it right the first time, their first "real" venture into this market will be a rocky one. Most people don't know them for their other chips, so I think that for the general public, this will be their "first" chipset. The tip of the lance.
That is why i believe they have put their ears on the ground and have probably done quite a bit of testing to get this board out with as few possible bugs (there will always be some) as possible.
I think that at the very least it will probably perform as well as the Nforce, but I hope that it will be better. Not so much because we need a "great" O/C'er, but because AMD REALLY needs a "rock solid" chipset on their side like Intel has right now. That is the mayor thing holding AMD back now.
Those are my 2 cents.
P.S.: I was just going to put a simple "Registering on thread" :), but I this thread reminds me of why I like the computer field so much... :toast: ...and also the joy of upgrading in may :p:
I am still debating weither I should keep my TCCD OCZ EL Platinum Rev2 for this board or sell those and get OCZ VX PC4000 :censored:
Im deciding whether i should use my "new" OCZ PC3500 BH-5 or PC4200 EL PLat. TCCD :)
Thanks for that info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
LOL- I missed the 450 SB part and was thinkin it uses the old 400!
My complaints 'bout this board were no HD Audio and SATA 2 and USB issues, seems they have been adressed so this board has moved up my list some!!!
I really do hope it lives up to everyones expectations, dunno why but NF4 just dosnt 'do it' for me, this board looks like it could be the one.
Time will tell......
533 /2 = 266.5MHz, At least with OCZ PC4000VX ram, BH-5 is obsolete as far as I'm concerned. :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
Wrong, In the Review I listed above in another link It went as High as 269MHz for this 1Gb pair of 512Mb sticks. :stick:
What?? u mean I can't use my PC4000 VX on my DFI NF4 board 24/7?Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
btw is there any ETA on this sapphire board yet?
yeah you can, The board can get power for the RAM from either the 3.3v rail or the 5v rail. So you can just power it from the 3.3v rail for 24/7 setup
jjcom
So do I need to move the jumper back from the 5V position?Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
my bh5 runs 250 7-2-2-2.0 w/ 3.3v on an nforce2 board :cool:
man, hope these ati boards produce results, it'll set a new benchmark for all motherboards
yep,Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
jjcom
Yeah whats this about the 5V not being 24/7 stable? Isnt that one of the premier features of the DFI board? Does the heatsink just have to be actively cooled? Hate to threadjack, but a quick answer would be great!
You guys should start up a new thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by boostdfd3s
When running off the 5v rail, the mosfets get *very* hot. So you have to have them sinked and with active cooling when running off the 5v rail. Plus its just more stress on them. Basicly, its better on the mb to run from the 3.3v rail for a 24/7 rig
jjcom
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
Thread was made 2sec before you posted :)
not recommended and not possible are very differerent things.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
they dont actually compare it to BH-5, i really dont know how they could possible have come to the conclusion that VX is faster then BH... and seeing as utt is CH based, and BH-5 is faster thn CH, i consider VX to be just as fast un interleaved...
but, since most of our BH is 256 and the VX is 512 sticks the interleaving does a good job...now lets see where thosee good clocking BH-5 512 sticks are and have a head to head, shall we?
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2369&p=4Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
ROFL!!
interesting way of putting a reply :D
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/o...40325/6511.png
show me which of those is BH-5... i know your not comparing the results from tests on the intel bed to the tests on the A64 bed, because we all know that the A64 has much better memory performance.
and that article isnt a good comparison anyways as the VX was tested on the NF4 DFI and everything else was done on an NF3 MSI...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
So are any of the above BH-5?Quote:
OCZ is usually very open about chip sources, but in this case, they would only comment that the memory chips were made to their specifications and went through extensive binning at OCZ. Forums are claiming that the blank is a new Winbond memory chip.
Performance of the OCZ EL PC4000 VX Gold was compared to all of the memory recently tested on the AMD Athlon 64 platform. While we did not test on an Intel platform, the performance results can also be generally compared to previous benchmark results on the Intel 875 memory test bed. More results are available in recent DDR memory reviews at: <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312" target="_blank">Corsair 4400C25: Taking Samsung TCCD to New Heights</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2235" target="_blank">PQI & G. Skill: New Choices in 2-2-2 Memory</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2226" target="_blank">Athlon 64 Memory: Rewriting the Rules</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2215" target="_blank">OCZ 3700 Gold Rev. 3: DDR500 Value for Athlon 64 & Intel 478</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2174" target="_blank">Geil PC3200 Ultra X: High Speed & Record Bandwidth</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2145" target="_blank">= F-A-S-T= DDR Memory: 2-2-2 Roars on the Scene</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2130" target="_blank">Buffalo FireStix: Red Hot Name for a New High-End Memory</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2098" target="_blank">New DDR Highs: Shikatronics, OCZ, and the Fastest Memory Yet</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2082" target="_blank">The Return of 2-2-2: Corsair 3200XL & Samsung PC4000</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2057" target="_blank">OCZ 3700EB: Making Hay with Athlon 64</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2019" target="_blank">OCZ 3500EB: The Importance of Balanced Memory Timings</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2015" target="_blank">Mushkin PC3200 2-2-2 Special: Last of a Legend</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=2007" target="_blank">PMI DDR533: A New Name in High-Performance Memory</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1998" target="_blank">Samsung PC3700: DDR466 Memory for the Masses</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1990" target="_blank">Kingmax Hardcore Memory: Tiny BGA Reaches For Top Speed</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1972" target="_blank">New Memory Highs: Corsair and OCZ Introduce DDR550</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1940" target="_blank">OCZ PC3700 Gold Rev. 2: The Universal Soldier</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1902" target="_blank">OCZ 4200EL: Tops in Memory Performance</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1887" target="_blank">Mushkin PC4000 High Performance: DDR500 PLUS</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1867" target="_blank">Corsair TwinX1024-4000 PRO: Improving DDR500 Performance</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1853" target="_blank">Mushkin & Adata: 2 for the Fast-Timings Lane</a><br>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1849" target="_blank">Searching for the Memory Holy Grail – Part 2</a><br>
<br>
According to anandtech It is the Fastest Memory for the A64. And that does include BH-5 according to them as this VX isn't the VX that OCZ had with the PC3200VX Dimms, This is a later Custom Batch and It is the cream of the crop of that custom batch of their newest VX chips. They only used the DFI NF4 motherboard as It was the only one then that could without any mods go to 4.0vdc, Now It has company and It's a Sapphire Gruper..... So I wonder how long It will be before the fish(Navy parlance for Torpedoes) are in the water and running hot and true?Quote:
<img width="500" height="337" src="http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/ocz%20vx_03020540325/6533.png" align="left" hspace="2" vspace="0">Some of you may recall in the last days of BH5 memory last year that BH5 actually performed faster than the new Samsung TCCD at the exact same memory timings. This is a pattern that we have seen before, but OCZ 4000 VX Gold blows the hinges off the door of this concept. What can you say about a memory that outperforms the fastest memory that you have previously tested, except "wow"? What replaces "wow" when you realize that OCZ VX running at DDR533 outperforms the previous best running at DDR610? There are no superlatives that really do justice to this kind of performance. We are absolutely blown away with the performance of the OCZ DDR500 VX.
Across the board from DDR400 to DDR538, VX manages to perform with stability in all our benchmarks at 2-2-2-6 timings. In addition, it is faster at the same timings than any memory that we have tested so far. This is why DDR533 outperforms the top TCCD memory - even those specially binned for highest-speed performance. We would also add that we did try slower timings to see where we could go, but this memory is very interesting in its performance curves. It can do, at 2-2-2 at high voltage, essentially the same as the highest OC at lower timings at any voltage. This is another way of saying that there is absolutely no reason to run VX at any timings other than 2-2-2 - unless you simply don't have the voltage to reach 2-2-2 performance.
In the end, OCZ VX Gold is the best performing memory that we have tested on the Athlon 64 platform. At the same speed and same timings, it significantly outperforms any other memory that we have tested on A64. VX does not run at the fastest memory speeds that we have found in our benchmarks - quite a few memories based on Samsung TCCD or Hynix memory chips reach significantly higher speeds than the DDR538 of OCZ VX Gold. However, at DDR534 2-2-2-6 timings, no memory that we have tested outperforms VX. VX is so fast that 533 actually outperforms memory that have achieved DDR600 or more in our memory tests.
Here's another review of PC4000VX ram and again they use a DFI NF4.
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?p...goldpc4000vx_1
Oh and I did find a review of some BH-5 ram, Of course It's OCZ PC3500 Platinum and heres the review below:
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=1914
And yeah It's on an Intel system, But Super Pi there is slower than on VX ram on the A64.
Interesting RAM. I'm keeping an eye on it
This thread is getting :off: !
Sorry, Ram debate for this chipset is all. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Now, does anyone know, will the gruper have active mosfet cooling stock? And will it (thusly) be able to push 4v 24/7 without extreme heat and stability issues?
Also,
was even more :off: hehe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Back to topic.
Mailed Sapphire Germany when/if this board hits the retail channels and got this answer:
We showed it as a demo system, but if it will be available for the end-user market it should come in about 2 or 3 month. Decision is not finally made.
So stay aware to our and ATI’s press releases…
Best regards
Your Sapphire Team Germany
oh... talk about raining on the party... well, let's just hope for the best then. dang, them boards look(ed) promising
why do you post a link to a story on a website a and then a link from a website b who quotes website a and links to it? :Stick: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
bh5 performs the same or beats ch5 ,theres no way its faster than bh5.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
bh5 production has started again some weeks ago and the new bh5 will be available soon.
zoom314, anandtech didnt compare the vx to bh5...
and please stop using iframe! :P
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
sorry for going OT one last time, but not once did they compare BH-5 to VX on the same platform, A64 always makes more memory bandwidth, you cant compare intel+BH-5 to A64 + VX and make claims that one is faster then the other, you just can't. Whatever anandtech says is just unbacked specualtion, and frankly im dissapointed in the website for it.
The board was not even working so i just can't see how one could call it a demo system, more of a concept if you ask. All this teasing just to learn that it may not make it to market :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caper
Anyway, 2 or 3 months is too much for me so it'll prolly be DFI.
The boards were working. They were not concepts. They were disassembled for some reason at the show.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
BH-5 still faster sometimes but here's 10x 266mhz 2-2-2-6 BH-5 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...694#post768694 to compare
Anandtech 10x267mhz 2-2-2-6 DFI NF4 vs BH-5@ 10x266mhz 2-2-2-6 DFI NF4 SLI-D
Sandra unbuffered = 3470/3629 vs 3581/3775
Sandra buffered = 7554/7461 vs 7557/7475
SuperPi 2M = 71s vs 72s
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-2m_tn.jpg
note Anandtech cpu = FX-53 1MB cache vs my 3500+ Newcastle 512k cache hence difference in superpi time and fact 10mhz difference 2670mhz vs 2660mhz
sorry Grayskull for going off topic... heh
Ahh, ok, it's worth mentionning, thanks for the clarification Grayskull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
If its already working, why would it still take 2 to 3 months to come out? By then news about "NF5" will probably be leaked.
Well, given that the decision to make it to market has not been taken yet, 2 to 3 months seems correct. Hope they'll take the right decision, maybe time for a "Will you buy the Gruper if it performs" poll thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
I actually don't mind if it takes a couple months for this board to come out, if they make sure it is released with a good BIOS and no bugs to speak of. The problem I have with delays is when they don't seem to fix anything while we wait.
yep, I'm with you. As long as the has few bugs and is stable with all these options I can wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
jjcom
Me too, BTW: Nice Cat avatar. Is the cat still alive or?Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
My nephew had His Black cat Sargent die recently at age 17(It was a 17 year old cat). :(
i just heard that the waterblocks from DD will cost around 40$, just like their current blocks
lets hope DD or some shops will offer the board with one or two blocks bundled so the price gets lower. maybe 199$ for the board with 2 blocks? :D that would surely be nice
Cat's still alive and his older brother is as well :D He's...9 years or so old. He's a blue gray...or whatever...same type of cat as Kazoo's, but mine's a guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
jjcom
oh man if it ever did cost $199 for the board AND two blocks i think....well i dunno what i'd do, but i'd be happy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya