Bah. Not in Toronto. Stupid ATI.
Good luck to everyone :)
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Bah. Not in Toronto. Stupid ATI.
Good luck to everyone :)
yeah ATI is canadian.. why not hold it in canada :(
No Matter what happens in dallas. OPPainter, FUGGER, Macci and good old JCViggen. ( Not in any specific order ) They are/were IMO the best clockers in the world... No Doubt about that.
IMO it takes 2 things to be a good overclocker . 1. Passion for overclocking. 2. TIME.., you cant "get" a status like FUGGER, Macci and OPP over night. It takes years of practice and lots of sleepless nights..
I think at this level, it may come down to whoever gets the best card/chips..
id have to agree 100% they are all the best, its whoever gets the most overclockable hardware so alot of luck will play here. Maybe ati will have more than one for each in case they get a dog, they can ask ati for another and give them the dog. We still dont know what hardware they will get and if there is any NDA involved
I hope all of you do your best out there. I think we'd all like to see some crazy INSANE clocks. :D
i dont think it's very feasible to have an NDA with so many people attending broQuote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
little :banana::banana::banana::banana:y arent ya?
im rooting for macci because he seems to be a stand up guy and always willing to help anybody. and i cant recall anytimes he has ever asked anyone how to do somthing! go macci go.......give em hell fugger:)
Yea it may be a little :banana::banana::banana::banana:y, but I’d say its more like self confidence then anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by megahurtz-oc
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not only that, but having an NDA would make the fact that its a public event nullified. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
So if u want to watch this event, do u have to register with TXGF lan or can u just go??
So, everyone shows up, and ATI provides the motherboard, CPU and video card? And, they are looking at some new 05 and 03 records. Hmm, definitely smells like the ATI version of SLI, AMR. What better way to introduce it, right? And, right on the heals of the nForce4 SLI. ATI trumped nVidia's press release about a 7700 3DMark05 score when Macci OC'd the crap out of an x800 XT PE to get an 8000+ score on a single card at an ATI sponsored event. Looks like this will be a little of the same.
Yeah definetly a good marketing idea :D
Call me a market tool, but im sure glad they did it this way! :D
damn I so wish this was in NYC. I would love to meet you guy's in person. Oh well, maybe next year!
BTW Good Luck OPP. I am in your corner rootin' for ya!;)
week is ended :
Just waterchilled , X850 non PE , subpowered by enermax 300watts. :rolleyes:
Cat 5.2 is not FM approved for the moment apparently :(
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/8233.JPG
It's time to sleep.
holy video card clock...
very nice
really cool work guys, let's hope this comes to NYC next :)
Great work Misteroadster :toast:
I thought this card was going to go higher but it never did.
Best I good do was this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=24587&stc=1
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Thanks OPP and the others :toast: , tomorrow i will try my FX55 :)
wow great !! 8773 :D
How many points did you gain from the new driver?Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
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about 90 ;)
I'll have to try bust 8800 then:)Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
Later this week, enough work out for one weekend.
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héhé , yes 9K is really near for you :)
for me 9K is as far as dallas :D
OPP, has your new x850xt helped any in 2001? were you able to get higher nature vs. your x800xt? just wondering, that and your goals for 2001 :D as for AMR, I doubt ati is ready with that, id expect r520 by far over AMR, r520 isnt far away from being released, what better time to show the highlights of it and get people so excited they will save their $ for one?
I suspect that card on the horizon, as well. But, launching that product right now would only damage the supply chain for the newly minted x850 XT PE, unless it is priced well above the x850 and supplements the product line-up.
My suspicion remains AMR. ATI has been working on it since nVidia talked about their SLI solution last summer. Over 6 months in skunk works should be enough for them to release beta product for a little press touring. I would still not expect a final release product until April. And, what better way to stop nVidia from grabbing any more SLI business than to release a product that soundly trounces it. If math serves correctly, I would expect an AMR set up to get around 15K or so in the right hands.
But, it's all conjecture at this point in time. ATI has some big plans to stop the SLIde in sales. The simple goal is to emaciate nVidia's SLI performance numbers, if history serves.
maybe current X850XT PCI-E cards already can do AMR with an ATI board hehe
This is a great marketting ploy by ATI. They should do something like this to introduce every new card generation that they want to make a splash. I wonder what magazines are going to cover the event so we can all read about it. Good luck fellas! It wonder what kind of tricks you'll pick up from each other and leave the rest of us masses even that much farther behind.
The design of AMR is to use any two ATI PCI-E cards without any additional hardware connectors (like SLI). The logic is all controlled within the ATI chipset. And, chipsets are a lot easier to design than a video card!Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
wow does this mean itll work for any ati card? what if one uses say an x800xl, x700pro or even cheapo x300? wow this means ati's amr is much more flexable than nvidia's sli. you do need ati mobo for amr and nvidia mobo for sli ;) lol. will ati's amr support any game or do they need to program a driver profile for each game like nvidia's sli? also does amr have the 10% cpu overhead that sli does?
NONE counts out FUGGER.......When he "come's out" he'll do it by his own unique way.........."BANG here I am"....... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
Likely incorrect, this would mean SLI capable boards by UMi, Intel, and VIA would all be useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
are there intel SLI boards?Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Dunno, does it matter? wont be long considering PCI-E is here to stay and there are likely to be Intel boards produced with multiple 16x/8x PCI-E connectors.
It would be NICE if AMR worked THAT WAY!!!!
But somehow I doubt it :(
C
the new bridge chip ati has got might have something to do with it charlie.
The next six months may look like this:
1. ATI releases AMR chipset boards for AMD. They supposedly can use two different ATI cards, but lowest common denominator wins. So, have an x850 XT PE and an x850 XT, the XT clocks will be the limiting factor. The nVidia bridges the core logic of one processor and assumes the exact same instruction sets, hence, the same card and BIOS rev requirement.
2. Intel releases the dual core 3.2 EE that actually beats the FX-57 (who knows, right?). AMD snaps back with a dual core FX. This may happen sooner than we expect.
3. The Nforce4 (5) for Intel is released so SLI is available for Intel users and the new powerful dual EE. So, the choice becomes dual EE and SLI nVidia or FX-57 and dual ATI? Each has its merits, and we all sit around wishing ATI made an Intel AMR chipset.
4. ATI and nVidia release 512 MB cards based on new cores with even more pipes (24). AMR and SLI systems now push 48 pipes! Standard hop scotch marketing with specs.
5. nForce 5 AMD chipset released to support DDR2 and SLI. ATI releases second stepping of AMR chipset. No support for Intel on AMR. Intel locked into nVidia for a spell.
So, again, we will be faced with powerful CPU, but the second best video card, initially. When AMD releases the dual core FX that works with a new rev of ATI AMR and DDR2, we will have found the enthusiast sweet spot for the year.
They sh.. their pants now :D
Hmm, so maybe no reveal from ATI. I guess they are referring to single card records. Oh well, we can always hope!
You guys will have fun down there. It will definitely be interesting to see what three of the best clockers in the world can do on the fly!
guess they want cooperation to ensure that the sli record (which aren't published anymore??) get pulled down with a never seen before (amr??) motherboard?
i think you're forgetting Digitaljesus who used to make his own cooling and held #1's for longer than i can remember (101xx in 3DMark2000 for example), Jazmon, Hiwayman, Mr.Icee, Cathar etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by JacobHansen
macci was the first 3D bencher to pose a real threat to DJ i think.
QuadDamage - Is DJ not still active at AkibaPC?.. I thought i saw him there some time ago?.. Or..
Im sorry to have "forgotten" Jesus and Your self and the others. But the guys i mentioned was the ones who are still active.. :) I havent seen a score from DJ and the others in ages now.. :) I hope i did´nt offended you ;)
But if i made a list it could go on and on.. and on.. :D
lol. well from OPP's post it looks like we won't be seeing an R520, or even AMR. I'd guess a Bullhead board, but just a single card version. A bit disappointing as we actually have seen this baord already, as bigtoe had a very early beta. I'm sure, however, that this will be a more overclocker friendly and revised version(not to say the bigtoes didnt OC well already ;)).Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas66
what's bullhead? a motherboard? Doesn't the release say a never before seen graphics card?
Sounds to me like an x850 with AMR bridge most likely. I really do doubt that it is the r520. They would be mad to upgrade it so soon after releasing the x850, and i can't see them pushing that down to mid range and replacing it with r520, as their midrange is already rather good with the x800xl, x800 and x800 pro.
So unless they shift ALL there products down a grade (and admittedly, their low-end is rather week, nothing compares to the 6200) then i see it as unlikely them releasing the r520. My thoughts.
wow...
im definately going to be quitting my job to ensure im there... hows that for xtreme?
hey, if youre going to attend, post here so we can get a good idea as to who to expect :toast:
We know where and when and very little on details yet. ATI will be providing some parts and not completely sure of what those parts are yet.
None the less, it will be great time and like I said. Just meeting macci makes it all worth it.
Hopefully ATI will let us know rules and details soon.
Well congrats and good luck to all 3 of you. Looks like its going to be a blast!
Im in support for OPP since he is a local and Terry is a good person. I still like you though Fugger!, lol.
So Macci is going to be useing Ln2?
Or are you guys gonna be somehow shareing the cascades as a team?
This isnt a competition man it is a groundbreaking event.. Team XS!!
Im glad i can witness this first hand.
Pretty soon there will be overclockers that are sponsored by major retail companies..
I think that the last thing you guys should be worried about is who is going to win.
All of these guys are truely the best and there are too many decideing factors to get a real winner!
"I am hoping that all three of you will work together to beat any existing records as opposed to it being a competition"
It's an interesting thing when the desires of big business has to contend with the lone man who pits his skills against other lone men week after week. 3dmark and overclocking is not normally a team sport. It is man against machine. So saying work together is at odds with what we're all about.
However, it is is very good of Ati to get this all arranged and so I can see where they are coming from in regards to the thread. However you cannot take away 4 billion years of evolution, everyone knows the best overclockers get the most ladies for their "herd" ;)
I'm sure it will be competitive but I'm equally sure everyone will have a good time and Ati will get a lot of column inches.
Regards
Andy
The site seems extra slow today!
Maybe its because you guys are makeing news all over the place:D
Acid*
Yes that too - I think fugger 7ghz attrievement has something to do with it too :D
Lol!
I know I couldnt get on all day yesterday. Still didint top the 1400 record though.
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
My moms going to texas that weekend... and I cant :soap: :shakes:
*cry*
This sucks... bring back pics!!! :(
maybe a webcast??
That would be an awesome idea!!! :toast: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
if you are going please post here>>> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=53198
Just to clarify on the Dallas event so that everyone knows what's going to happen, as there seems to be some confusion.
There will be atleast three different stations, one for Fugger, one for Macci and one for OPP. Each will be overclocking using their preferred technique. The planned platform will be an RS480 with X850XT PE. The planned board will be Bullhead.
I see people cheering for their favorites and that's okay, but I want to make it clear to everyone that this is a friendly gathering amongst friends and peers and should be labelled more as a demonstration and not really a competition. I am hoping that there will be collaboration amongst the three as opposed to pure competition. We want this to be a learning experience for everyone as much as we want people to have a good time.
I also see a lot of people posting that we might be revealing some new discrete graphics cards at this event. As I mentioned above, everyone will be using X850XT PEs at this event.
Having said all that, don't take this as meaning there aren't many exciting things happening. That's simply not true. ;) If you come to the event, you'll probably hear about (or maybe even see) some things that are not currently known.
One word(maybe more... :D ) : We Overclockers ARE united in such events and I think that you misunderstood our fillings about OUR "kids" OPP - FUGGER - macci .....We are ALL united but we like to compete each other from time to time for our big love : "Overclocking" for fun.........So don't think that this will NOT be a collaboration amongst the three of OUR guys coz they are ALSO friends..... ;) :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
P.S. GO macci GOOOOO...... :D
If anyone happens to spot a 24-pipe card at the event, please snap some spy shots for me. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
RS480..... :(
Who is the vendor on those Bullheads?
If this was Anandtech, then i could understand your point. However, this is the BEST of the BEST when it comes to people, tweaks and down right overclocking. Wanna Be's Exit Left. If youre going to throw these guys a bone, make sure it has meat on it, thats all i gotta say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
ATI reference boardQuote:
Originally Posted by stryg
might be ABIT board.... they are among the sponsor as well :)
ABIT & ATI ... are good friends from what i heard :hehe:
I don't view extreme overclocking as a team or collaborative effort. Now, getting tips on overclocking from others is always handy for the less expereienced like myself. However, i am fairly sure that each of these guys already knows absolutely everything there is to know, and then some. As far as three guys standing aorund one machine working on it, I jsut don't see it happening. If one of them finds a tweak with the bullhead board however, then that may be worth sharing, just maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
that said, this event is gonna rock! A massive :thumbsup: to ATi for putting on this event. Now make it an annual occurence. ;)
good luck to all you guys, and I def think that there should be a webcast of this!
ATI was generous enough to extend and pull off a gathering targeted at us. It is the first of it's kind.
I am going to hijack this thread.
Let it be known, today hell froze over. See second machine in my sig for details. Any predictions on how fast I can get it to go? I am still tweaking the OS and registry and I will ghost it. I have A64 mounting ready to go (most of you guys who purchased Chilly1 blocks have mounts that I made). I will make a perfect mount for bullhead for the show. I believe it will fit PC_ICE's cascade.
Opps knows Texas but Macci is yet to feel the magnatude of Texas. Dallas is the only city I have been to where you take a right at the next intersection you will be heading about 4 degrees of a turn. The interstate you need to be on is the one running parrallel to you for the past 30 miles (you can see it about 200 feet away). In Texas they can fill/will the biggest stadium full of screaming fans and the place will errupt in cheer with bazillion flashes going off when a guys shoves his hands in a bucket and pulls out two fish. Also this time of year in Texas is the brutal humidity.
I will be bringing supplies for condensation proofing for us all. Dry ice and LN2 will be available for the event.
Yea I lived in Texas for 4 years. Married and Divorced in Texas.
Yep, all my Xs live in Texas:D
I was young and lived in Austin in the Mid '80s. I can tell you I had a blast living there:D
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
acctually bro the weather is not humid at all right now it is quite pleasent :toast: the thing about TEXAS is it can change real fast :rolleyes:
OMG @ FUGGER + AMD :slobber:
And YES, TX owns, there is no other place quite like it. TXGF is gonna own too, in a big way :D
Cool to hear you use to live here and liked it OPP :toast:
Also yes humidity blows in south TX. I live in far WestTex now, and for all that it had it's drawbacks, one thing I *can* say about it is that there is next-to-no humidity, as opposed to Houston where I used to live, humidity was friggin nuts :eek: Even worse than Dallas/Austin.
"Yep, all my Xs live in Texas"
Opp makes a funny.
Man would I love to goto this competition. I've never seen xtreme rigs first hand before. Never seen a cascade, DI, or LN2 cooled computers first hand. Would just be awesome to see them setup everything.
dont worry there will be plenty of pics:D
I'd like to see Macci do some LN2. That would be cool to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by jumanji969
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We also want a video :D Would love to see a film with LN2, cascade, DI and some WR :)
Indeed me 2, OPP. His old 7K 2k3 LN2 run was nice to watch.. :)
i also want a video to see macci,opp and fugger in action:D
Yep we need a video for us poor people in foreign lands. And the more photos the better!
For what its worth my moneys on OPP. Although I am sure Fugger and Macci will make a good showing!
Video would be amazing if possible.
Fugger picks up an A64 rig? Hmm, things are getting odd. Just saw a pig flying past my window.... ;)
hmm, just a 3500+ winchester... but i thought....... :stick:
go go go
it gonna be like ferrari enzo vs lamborghini gallardo vs pagani zonda c12s :)
who will get the most efficient optimization will win
hmmm does anyone plan on driving up from cali? I want to go :(
think i could sit under a cascade :D
id be honored to :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by JSU
I'm jealous, i wish i can join u guys. sounds like a lot of fun.
I don't think you guys would be to comfortable under there seeing we'll be on the road for 20Hours :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aphex_Tom_9
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woah that would be one awesome picture - a truck full of phase change systems :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pc ice
what day are you guys leaving? I think if i go iam going to fly, would be too hard to drive.
o wow doesnt look so far now, i think ill walk :D
lets get a bunch of people to pitch in and rent one of those rental trailers thingys :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JSU
Better yet, let's get the latest G-ride: a suped-up P.Diddy Diet Pepsi truck pimped out by Xzibit. :D
^ no, just....no. ;)
as long as we dont get stopped by the border patrol with a bunch of guys squooshed in the back :eek: not like they do their job anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by blinky
hahaha, what's in the back? oh, just some cascades and overclockers...no mexicans, dont worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by JSU
Is this just benching with 05 and not 03 because otherwise FUGGER's 3500+ is not going to be able to touch an FX-55 .. or are Ati supplying FX-55's ? Actually macci does not have a good FX-55 either :confused: :confused:
I think macci will start off with two cascades but then move onto Ln2 for the cpu.
Maybe if it a 3 way collaboration at the end we can see a 2001 run with Ln2 on the cpu, one of the cascades on gpu and all the best hardware from all threee to throw up a massive 2001 score ......
Regards
Andy
I'm guessing they also get to keep whatever they played with as well, as a small token of ATI's appreciation for their participation in the event. :slobber:
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Originally Posted by Aphex_Tom_9
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :D :D
I have to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by SIOUX
That was a good one:D
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Mexicans :D
LOL, i can see the "WTF?? :confused:" of the policemanQuote:
Originally Posted by Aphex_Tom_9
Damn I'm jelous I would sell some of my bodyparts to be there and watch the event. Good luck to you guys and have fun. I hope some1 is making a movie availible for download.
My vote goes to Macci.