Bigtoe, have you got a chance to test the the stability of the 5v rail with this new bios? I was pretty dissapointed to hear that there was stability issues with it.
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Bigtoe, have you got a chance to test the the stability of the 5v rail with this new bios? I was pretty dissapointed to hear that there was stability issues with it.
I still can't get over 270, i tried 3.5+V with no gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
I found heat was the issue witht he 5V jumper on the board so cooling is a must. The board is stable as long as its cooled.
The 4200 is pretty sweet ram and does well on a good board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
Quote:
felinusz
Did 264 MHz with this nForce4 board only need 3.3V (what you needed for 240 MHz with the old nForce 2 board) to run stably?
BH-5 running at 264 MHz stably with 3.3V of VDIMM is indeed insane, and reason enough for me to purchase one of these new DFI motherboards once they're available! With this kind of result, 270+ should be possible with 3.6V+ of VDIMM.
But the comparison is unfair if all the variables (namely VDIMM) did not remain constant across both test platforms (NF2/NF4 - 240MHz/264MHz).
Bigtoe?
I'm really interested in these results, and am extremely curious what kind of VDIMM was needed for 264 MHz 2-2-2 with this board, and your BH-5 :)
TIA bro :)
I notice that on these boards that the sound system only has coax digital out.
Any mention anywhere about an optical SPDIF connector?
Or if not, does anyone know if the optical SPDIF and coax SPDIF have the same
pins if I were to bust out the wand of soldering and not care about the warranty?
My whole setup is based around optical in/out and so if the built in sound is
good I'd rather use that than have to go with CL's latest cash cow.
With my board I have been useing the 5V rail running my VX all day at 3.75V with no problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustafur
I havn't tryed new bios yet.
OPP
not 100% sure but i don't think it's coaxial it's RCA. I read something about another adaptor to connect on the mobo around the sound thingie in order to be optical, which I also would like to have. No mention on what part number to get in order to obtain optical however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demoulous
3.4Vdimm for 264 1.5-2-2-5Quote:
Originally Posted by felinusz
good ole BH-5. ;)
That's what I needed to know! (^_^)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Awesome results guys!
Can someone quick clear up with me if my fortron 530w is going to work either with or without a 20-24pin adapter? It seems there's different answers floating around. Can someone give me a definative one?
Thx
i can't find an optical out....only coaxQuote:
Originally Posted by Demoulous
:banana: :banana: Freakin' A! Thanks OPP, man I can't wait to get my hands on this board and some OCZ VX :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I've been out of the loop for some time, so if someone would be so kind to update me ;)
That 3.3V-5V option: Is it news tot the NF4-board of DFI or do they also provide it on the NF3?
DFI rules once more, the quickest response from mobo manufacturer I have ever experienced in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Also thank u bigtoe for being in to this :toast:
nope the one guy oscar talked about doing the 5v thing with the DFI nf3 250ut in an upcomming bios update but i gues it wasnt possible :shrug: so now we see it on the nf4 dfi's wich is a beutiful thing :)
peace perc,
This works in the same was as the booster does it not in terms of using the 5v rail? The booster most definately needs cooling so I see no reason why that corner of the board wouldn't either. Wondering. Would a booster be better as it supposedly provides cleaner power or is this essentially a booster built in the board so to say?
The higher the voltage the less that has to be thrown away meaning wouldn't higher voltage not be as hot running? 5-3.6 = 1.4 as opposed to 5-3 = 2?
Is it ok to run OCZ ddr booster with this board if i dont want to use 5V jumper? :)
What is max safe voltage to run OCZ ddr booster with 3V jumper ? :)
I don't think Tony officially tested and made mention of the booster being tested on this board. Perhaps with it setup the way it is with the choice of 3/5v the booster may not even work at all being added to the incompatibility list. Good thing I didn't go out and buy one till I hear an official answer.
quick question for bigtoe,
what's the clearance underneath the x850xtpe to the board. from your pictures i can see that it barely clears the dfi chipset fan. i'm thinking of watercooling the chipset and was wondering 2 things.
1. do you think it's necessary to wc the chipset in a 24/7 overclocked setup inside a case?
2. will any current waterblocks fit? i'm considering a slimline fusionSL which is 19mm tall, or a polarflo waterblock which has a 360 degree rotation of the barbs. the a dd maze4 chipset waterblock doesn't look like it it will fit from the pics i've seen.
Might seem a strange question but does anyone know the maximum amps you can connect to the cpu fan header?
My fan draws 2 amps which is too much for a lot of motherboards. Ive looked in the manual and it doesn't say. The asus sli allowed 2 amps max but that seemed a bit to close for me so i opted to use a thermaltake fan controller which is mounted in a pci slot.
Its really annoying to have to reach round the back of the computer to change the fan speed. Never found a rheobus which could take 24w.
could you please test that 4400gold ? or did you already?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Just flashed to the new bios. Gotta love Interleave:D
Check out these Lobby scores, the highest scores in the world I believe:D
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=23024&stc=1
Opp, where can I get the BIOS?
You would have to PM me your e-mail addy.Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
OPP
YGPMQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Maybe something like this could solve your problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by pudds
http://www.adpmods.com/case-modding/...able-p-49.html
2-Way or 4-Way?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
2-wayQuote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
I have 1gig of memory.
With 2gigs you would get 4-way
OPP
Ok, so I screwed up there is coxial. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Demoulous
Here is what i found in the manual:
My puzzle is how do you get the S/PDIF ports and the card edge?Quote:
The system board is equipped with an onboard S/PDIF-in RCA jack
(red) and a S/PDIF-out RCA jack (yellow) at locations CN5 and
CN7 respectively.
The S/PDIF connector at location J3 is used to connect to
optical S/PDIF ports. The S/PDIF ports may be mounted on a cardedge
bracket. Install the card-edge bracket to the system chassis
then connect the audio cable connector to J3. Make sure pin 1 of
the audio cable connector is aligned with pin 1 of J3.
DO NOT use RCA S/PDIF and optical S/PDIF at the same time.
isnt that depending on how many banks you have?
2x single sided is 2 way and 4 way is for 2x DS
Hmmm. I always thought that if the modules were double-sided, you can enable 4-Way Bank Interleave with 2 modules so long as the BIOS had provisions for it. Maybe I'm wrong. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
EDIT:
reject beat me to it.
Eric, what would 4x 256MB give me? Would that give any possibilities with interleaving? Thanks m8.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I have this board coming and have 4 sticks of BH-5 that do some nice clocks.
2xSingle sided in DC is one bank for MCH, 2x double sided (4 physical) is 2 in DC for ΜCH ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by reject
OPPAINTER whats ur 01SE score with the board at this moment?
=)
I'd like to know this tooQuote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
I sent PolarFLO a link to pictures of the board and they said their chipset block won't fit (too tall)
Any of the lucky people who have this board like to get their ruler out? ;)
Hasn't koolance any?
I know they aren't the best performing, but they're always very thin.
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...products_id=87
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=104
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product...roducts_id=105
Any of these should seem to fit.
I know, there are better out there, but watercooling is always better then air, so it could be the next best thing ...
Nice! I wonder if their connector is like the one on my dearly departed A7N8X-D as I could use the Asus optical out slot daughter board with it and dance around like the Dean of happy from happy university.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
Great to hear that this beast now supports bank interleaving as my gig of Twinmos BH-5 will be in this mobo and loving the bandwidth. Gotta try for that CAS 1.5 when I get her.
Will enabling interleaving affect ocing performance at all?
Thanks Zav :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZaVkE
Only problem is the fittings look a bit on the small side- really need at least 3/8" id tube. Maybe I'll just have to go to the machine shop.... ;)
in the same site you got adapters to go with the wb cooler
http://www.koolance.com/shop/default.php?cPath=25_36
yeh, since the early via athlonxp chipsets had interleaving, and 512mb was the normal max back then, it would have had to been 2 way
I don't have one yet. I will hook my Graphics card to my cascade today and should get around 42500 if all goes well.Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel734
OPP
As far as interleave goes, it's not the same as the old days.
These days, and this may be because of the AMD onboard memory controller, it goes by Gigs. Total of 512Mb gets you No-way, 1Gig gets you 2-way and to get 4-way you need 2Gigs. This has been the way it is since the S940 FX-51 through out my testing, and on both Via and nVidia chipsets.
OPP
Quote:
Bigtoe
3.4Vdimm for 264 1.5-2-2-5
WOW.
Thanks man, that pretty much hammers the last nail into the purchase decision ;)
Man I am so lost with all these new boards. DFi has 3 NF4 boards out. The Ultra-D, SLI-D, and the SLI-DR. I am so confused as to which has which and what I should look into. So all 3 accept 2 video cards but can work with just 1?
heres what i think plz correct me if im wrong
ultra- atm 2 slots pci-e 16x, have to do sli "hack" to get 16x/2x cards to work. that information is at anandtech.
sli-2 video cards 16x/16x, good performace, just lots-o money. :(
then if it has name-Dthen a R, r has to do with something with raid. there are many posts about this, at dfi-street, and here. also any of the boards just run off 1 16x card, if the board is for sli, it DOESNT have to be in sli all the time. hopefully that answered your question. and feel free to correct me.
and the dfi ultra can be modded into FULL SLi 8x/8x
anybody know how much the dfi costs.. haven't seen it in any places yet.
They have the Ultra-D and the SLI-DR at ZipZoomFly for pre order.
Does that help?Quote:
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 ULTRA-D nForce4 Ultra Athlon 64(FX) Skt939
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=246486
price = $155
DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR nForce4 SLI Athlon 64(FX) Skt939
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=246485
price = $227
...my $0.02... :cool:
Hey,
Just some general questions about this board.
What are the rounded cables like that come with it? I heard you can have corrupted data and loss of data with rounded cables?
And hows the Karajan onboard sound?
Thanks!
Rounded cables don't cause any problems, why would they?Quote:
Hey,
Just some general questions about this board.
What are the rounded cables like that come with it? I heard you can have corrupted data and loss of data with rounded cables?
And hows the Karajan onboard sound?
Thanks!
Ok,
Now is there enough rounded cables with this motherboard to have...
-Floppy Drive
-DVD Drive
-CDRW Drive
-SATA Hard Drive
-ATA100 Backup Hard Drive
Thanks
zipzoomfly and preorder shouldn't even be in the same sentence. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DustMite
DFI goes straight to #1:DQuote:
Originally Posted by daniel734
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=23090&stc=1
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
OPP, you show that turd who's boss! :toast:
Gratulations OPP, nice run, and not with extreme gfx-clocks I see, more to come then ;)
you got yourself a PM aswell :)
you've got the second lowest CPU clock speed on that screen shot...:drool: Just think of what that thing will do once its the highest clocked CPU on that page...Nice job!
jjcom
It's on the "beta" DFI server. Do a google search for DFI beta bios. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
WOW, just WOW
very nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
still waiting on mine...but have a couple of questions... my PSU only have 20 pin connector...do i need a 20>24 pins converter (and is it included in the Sli-DR model? )
any news on the OCZ pc4200EL memory modules on the board...how much voltage and what timings to max out mhz (air cooliance only).....damn this thread has grown!
Thanks xgman. I only found 1 beta BIOS dated Jan 14 1005. @OPP: Is this the one you are using? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Now that's just plain cavalier ;).Quote:
OPP's benchmark title
DFI 939 testing :)
I'm sure that this will draw reams and reams of enthusiast interest in the new S939 DFI boards too :D :)
Good work OPP!
The one I have here is labled 121, probably named after the date it was released.Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
OPP
i onle see bios for the nf4 ultra sli-dr....also on the dfi site...i guess i cant use these with the nf4 ultra (non sli) board ? On the other hand...aren't all these boards the same, even the ultra can be modded to the SLI, Shouldnt the other bios work ?
Btw. hos is dfi in general with releasing and updating new bios ?
Nice OPP.. you're the only one on there using PCI-E too. They have XT PE's while yours is a plain XT.
Hmm,
Well after reading through this thread will a ati x800xl fit properly on this board or will it hit the stock heatsink/fan?
Thanks
Ronin
Yes, it will. OPP's board is just bent because of the evap mounting.
Ok cool thanks!
Some more DFI "POWER" in action:D
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=23105&stc=1
Geezzz... nice going OPP.
Come on reseller shake the banana tree of the master distributor I need a dfi nf 4 Ultra board prompto !
Dang this board looks awesome.
It's this week in Australia.
Damn the wait is killing me...... :slobber:
I will have it this friday thats what the said :slobber:
And when will DFI appear in Euro ? I can not wait anymore :(
I'm not holding my breath, my guess is first or second week of Feb at the earliest. I hope I'm wrong.
next week in Italy so i hope in Europe...Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
next week it will also in germany arrive. check out hpm-computer
So next week i will have it :banana4: .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Klosti
Congrats man, real nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Guys clearance on the chipset to ATI card is tight, but it does fit as long as the board is now bent.
I know the chipset gets warm so water may help although I have had no issues. I do know DD are working on a block for it ;)
Awesome to see OPP bank on form, were you using our dimms there m8?
Regards using the 5V Jumper emabled, the mosfet has a heatsink on it and at 3.4Vdimm it was showing 75+C for me on full load, this to me means get sone cool air blowing on it ;)
Guys, I understand it shouldn't be much longer for shipment. A last minute hardware change and bios update to the shipping boards is being made to smooth out performance.
Oppssss.....slip of the tongue there Tony, tired also I suspect working on to many boards at the same time....ATI in this case probably means DFI...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Actually tony is reffering to the clearance from the chipset fan to the PCB on the ATI pci-e card. Opp had a problem because his board was warped from the Evap head mount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindbat
Oppsssie my bad, I guess I'm the one tired and did not read properly..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by trans am
[QUOTE=bigtoe]
Awesome to see OPP bank on form, were you using our dimms there m8?
QUOTE]
Here's specs for me last run last night.
42879
DFI NF-4 SLI DR mobo,, FX-55 at 266x13,, 2x512 OCZ VX at 266MHz 2-2-2-5,, 1xMSI RX800 at 799/659
OPP
Here's specs for me last run last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
42879
DFI NF-4 SLI DR mobo,, FX-55 at 266x13,, 2x512 OCZ VX at 266MHz 2-2-2-5,, 1xMSI RX800 at 799/659
OPP
HPM-COMPUTER.DE is getting it from DFI Netherlands the 26th. The expect shipping to begin the 29th.Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
Nice OPP... Brian and Jacob are behind you with a crappier board :D
Is it neccessary or is it useful to cool down the chipset to -40°C? Or doesnt matter this? I ordered my dfi nf4 ultra last week :) I hope it rocks with my bh5 sticks!
Is the "chipset" the same size as regular "NB" with same mounting holes? Could someone verify the height between the top of chip and bottom of vid card. It would be helpful so we can start getting parts now. Would a 20mm tall block fit that had water ports on the lower portion of block as to not interfere with the card? Copper is act. 10mm.
You will want the water ports to come out centered between TWO video cards, so it can handle SLI, also needs to take into account the impact of any heatsinks on the videorams.
Same for the water blocks on the GPU's. the top card GPU block needs to not interfere with the bottom cards backside ramsinks.
Even if ATI takes a while to get SLI-ness functional, 2x X800 would make a cool 4 monitor desktop setup a snap. Even more nasty would be two Apple 30" LCD's each powered by one X800 card.
looking here, http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...389#post676389 , (it is all I have to go on), it seems there may be enough room above the lower card if someone was running two. Also (the orientation part I have not got to), the hose may be able to go to the back. Height seems to be the unknown. ***edit: I see what you are saying, about possible caps etc. being on top of the lower card....
:lol: that will need some times to do thatQuote:
Originally Posted by diamonddog
the clearance are to small even for standard chipset cooling fan....
then what do you think .... with an evaporator block? :confused:
no waterchill with ethanol as I cool my nb and graphicscard on my nfII ultra infinity
is the vx doing any better on this board? or is it exactly the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
799/659? Holy crap! mine max out memtest stable at 265, but this is on single channel 754 DFI rig. I have yet to try them in dual.:toast:
Hey,
Just wondering what 3200 Dual 2x512mb Ram would work good for this board for $240 or cheaper?
Thanks!
If you don't plan on o/cing(don't know why you would want this board if not), get some value ram from corsair, kingston, mushkin etc.
If you want to o/c my suggestion is G.skill pc4400 LE 1gb, just wait one more pay period, can be had for about 270 shipped at the egg.
OPPAINTER,
Small favor to ask, if you have the time and processor.
Is it possible for you to try a Winchester under cascade and the DFI nf4, and be kind enough to let us know if it works or if the famous ''winchester under phase change'' problem is also present with the DFI?
Last item for me to order is the processor and I wonder if I should go 3500+ NewCastle (until such time as Venice is out and hopefully not having the same problems as winnie), I will be using it on a modest Vapochill XE II.
OK cool,
If im not overclocking with this board.
Will this Kingston
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/inde...cture=Kingston
have a huge advantage over the ocz if not OCing.
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/inde...Z%20Technology