FX-55 I don't know - I need to sell my FX53 first - I don't have enough financial resources to support 2 high end CPUs :(Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
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FX-55 I don't know - I need to sell my FX53 first - I don't have enough financial resources to support 2 high end CPUs :(Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
Hah, figured out the tweak.
Works even on Bartons! :)
And I need to thank Zakelwe for solving this riddle and dropping me a note:)Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
Thanks bud :toast:
OPP
Run those PI tests, OPP!
I bet you can take all the contemporary WR's....
3D01
3D03
3D05
sPi 1M
spi 8M
top screenie
C
P.S. Maybe start a thread with the new magic "tweak" ;)
I'm installing a new 2003 OS as we speak, slight problem last time I used it:DQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie
A little to much tweaking:D
I doubt it though, best I was doing was 24s at 3535MHz.
OPP
then?
OPP it's not possible , you can do better than that , with my FX55 and my K8NSNXP939, i could have 26 sec at 3045Mhz (277X11) !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
each 100-110 mhz gives me 1sec.
do you used A64 tweaker ??
Yea I'm useing the tweaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
I can't even get a run in at 3570, I can 3d05 at that speed. I'm getting errors.
OPP
OPP you ve got a PM ;)
Yes, superpi is very much agressive with the cpu than 2K05.
It's very strange , i don't understand why 500Mhz gives you only 2sec, or 3 sec for memesama.
@OPP / macci:
Does the tweak also work for intel setups, or are they multi by default?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
OPP, use the timing values that I PMed you a while back. THey are the fastest for SuperPi and pifast.
I will also send you another program for pifast when I get home tonight.
Should work - IIRC hipro5 got nice boosts in 2001 w/ P4EE a while back useing similar settings.Quote:
Does the tweak also work for intel setups, or are they multi by default?
It works nicely in WinXP SP2 too btw (tested w/ A64). WinXP is almost as fast as w2k in lobbys but seems to be a bit weaker for car tests.
I've personally witnessed gains in SP2 with this as well.
So its a universal performance boost that takes 30 seconds of time to enable with no consequences.
Amazing.
I get to bench all my cards again with the prospect of more points .. which makes me very happy . 32K for the 6800 might be possible at a pinch, not bad for a totally air cooled setup and slightly lower spec 16 pipe modded card.
Regards
Andy
As far as benching goes pretty much so :)Quote:
So its a universal performance boost that takes 30 seconds of time to enable with no consequences.
Also took 2 secs off my superpi 8m time w/ A64 :D
one wonders if we could see this settin changed in future windows update fixes? lol :D
does it have a bad effect on performance in games?
Quite the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by r3b0rN
3 FPS gain in CS: Source. :D
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Originally Posted by Hallowed
how did u enabled multiprocessor in winxp?
_zZz_
Look really hard at macci's screenshot. :)
Its practically a giveaway.
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Originally Posted by Hallowed
forget my pm.. I've found it ;)
_zZz_
this one, or the camera pic of the benchmark tests?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=18640
That said, it think I see it.. will have to test. sneaky! :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
i think its this change:
[cheat mode on] :D
cheat tweak mode --> ramdisk + superpi (jap) + priority in realtime = 1s, 1.5s better
[cheat mode off] :mad:
What is the Japanese superpi I keep hearing about, why is it quicker than normal superpi ? It's not been recoded has it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
Rergards
Andy
I was just trying to pin down which picture, but that works.. :D
I hear pc ice has some triple phase cascade action going on. I have a prediction but I shall keep that to myself(over 40k that I will say)(I will reveal my prediction if pc ice permits me) but lets just say its gonna amaze everyone and if everything goes right, we should see a new spot on the orb this weekend ;) go pc ice :D
CodeRed, figured out the "low drago low" -problem :D
Its all gigabytes fault :D
guess its some AGP related thingy in the BIOS MSI enables and GIgabyte doesn't
msi vs. giga at the same clocks, same drivers, same OS:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/939/giga_vs_msi.PNG
I'll need to re-run it this evening and break 30k at 230x10 w/ Winchester :D
I didnt get a chance to figure it out ... went to try out the new Ricky/Pedro tweak and nuked my X800 ... thats what ya get for taking shortcuts with condensation proofing :(Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Well at least now I know that my MSI+FX53 combo will work OK, thanks for that :)
grumble, grumble ... cheapest X800XT-PE is $1050 over here :(
They dont sell VIVO's?
2300 MHz and 30k is nuts.
yeah VIVOs are around .. that was the cheapest :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallowed
Yeesh.
It would almost be cheaper for you to convert your money to USD, money-order it to a stateside XS'er, have them purchase it, and ship it back to you. And thats saying alot. :|
I'm fairly certain you know your shiz, but have you checked for simple things like just a blown bridge / cap / whatever? Yeah, you probably have...
Anyway, GL on finding a replacement. :)
CodeRed: Here are some PRO-VIVO models. Not sure which brand could clock as high as a proper XT-PE, but 16 pipes for $300 less should be appealing.
http://www.pricewatch.com.au/search....=X800+Pro+VIVO
Well the card got soaked, I left it overnight (without cleaning it) and it grew a square inch of mold/fungus on the back. That'll teach me for being lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallowed
Checked for any visible signs of damage apart from the obvious mold patch which I removed (only took 2 hrs of cleaning). Checked Vgpu, Vdd and Vddq voltages, they are ok. But every 2nd RAM chip runs super hot (burning to the touch) now at stock volts and the screen is just fuzzy.
Now I doubt Gecube use anti-fungal agents in their PCBs :D
I will just conformally coat the next one ;)
Poor old video card, you should have used dielectric grease and not agar jelly Codered ;)
Is the MSI 939 becoming the 939 motherboard of choice now then ? Mine seems to do Ok, but I was not sure how it rated amonsgt other boards. Or are we still awaiting a good 939 like the DFI and the MSI at the moment is the best of an average lot ?
Regards
Andy
"I'll need to re-run it this evening and break 30k at 230x10 w/ Winchester"
question Macci and others, are winchesters faster clock for clock than even the 1mb clawhammers except in drag low? I thought 30k was the best you could get on 240x10 claw but then you plan to do the same with 100MHz less on a winchester, making them better than clawhammers(s754) clock for clock. Thus only the s939 FX cpus are better only cause of the extra cache.
Can it be that the Winchesters 'appear' faster because 939 is Dual Channel and 754 is not? ;) (correct me if I'm wrong)
Winchesters are faster than Newcastle 939's per clock as well.
Heres why:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4...-90vs130nm.gif
Where did you take that from? Link plz ;)
:rotf:
LOL getting the properties of an image=know where it came from=owned! What would be nice is to find out which is faster clock for clock, winchester or newcastle? and I dont mean in just 3dmark 2001 either! is dual channel+ higher ipc>1mb cache? anyway If everything goes right, in a couple days we ought to see some amazing 3dmark scores from pc ice himself with his 3 stage cascade ;)
Well.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
You alwais have the 3Dmark, and I have the fastest computer :D
Just got my FX-55
It's MSI ram 2-5-2-2
Cascade at -125 C load
3.72GHz! :slobber: could be your chance to score some truly impressive 3dmarks! Over 40k I hope! In this case, gpu clocks dont matter very much so even if your 50MHz behind there, your nature may suffer say 15fps which is only gonna cost ya 300 marks. Hows it going pc ice by the way? I saw your other threads on 3x stage cascade!
well a nice big congratz is in order here :toast:
but I get the message that they are invalid?
btw, did you use the same card for all 3 benchmarks or did you use a different one for 01?
I'm asking cuz the vidcard clocks are far lower in 01 then in 03 and 05 :)
This thread is over a month old, probably get current results doing a couple searches on the ORB.Quote:
Originally Posted by kristos
The benchmark software stresses the video card differently, thus the different clocks listed.
Hey Kristos, the last time someone posted here was November 6th !!...So yes you're gonna have a hard time getting those links.
ALSO...this wouldnt happen if ppl actually accepted my plan to create a 38K+ Hall of Fame for those who have the skills to be able to reach that far, those who have broken through the magical 40K and those on the journey to 42K !!!
That would save us A LOT of trouble trying to look for ppl with similar setups trying to get those scores.
Perkam
Sorry guys, I got here through a link on madshrimps.
somebody dug up the newspost there :slash: and I didn't look at the date
I thought it was an odd coinsidence, making the nr1 spot on all 3 3dmarks twice :D
Getting closer to OPPs #1 single card score :D
Less than 100 marks to go wheeeee!
http://www.akiba-pc.com/939/8427_orb.gif
Need some more CPU powah there - somebody give me 500MHz please? :D
Card wasn't quite maxed for that run - should do 815/700 w/ better GPU contact.
Wow, less than 100 marks to go and your GPU speeds are that different? Get that speed up :)
Goodness !!!
Hey Macci, how was the trip to Muenchen ...and whats the news from ATI ??? :D
Perkam
i too, would like to know how the trip to münchen was. please tell. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by perkam
whoa macci, what proc was that? 3500 winchester?
insane! 500 mhz less than the fx and still so close in scores, looking forward to see you break those 8.5k points.
Its FX55. Wish I had a Winny that runs at 3G (in other words a winny that runs w/ cold temps) - it would be faster than that FX55 clock to clock in this test ;)
@macci hunt is restart ? :cool:
whoaaa nice mem clocks :toast:
We may have some pleasing scores in the next few days :D
Here it is my new FX-55, with the MSI K8N Neo2 with no mods at all - just using Bios 1.41 and MSI Core Center to raise de cpu core.
These new TCCD are really great, but very likely we will use the BH-5 to the 3Dmark 2001 run.
Using my old Mach1/404a to cool the CPU..
http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/superpi25sTCCD.jpg
And this one just for the screen :cool:
http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/FX55_3500.jpg
CPU cascade redone (now Ricky cascade ver 1.2 :D ), GPU cascade redone tomorow I hope ..finally we have a decent X800XT hope can do 800 core (previous never passed 750) :)
If this FX-55 escalate with -100ºc like my previous FX-53WR, I can expect more 400mhz benchable speed (3DMark, pifast etc) and 500mhz or more just the screenie ..
It quite amazing the heat dissipated by the FX-55, I gain almost 100mhz just from the change from a stock Mach2 to a Prometeia with 404a ..so can't wait to see the speed of this babe at -108º C :D
Expect some news in the next few days..
:toast:
wow 3.5GHz 3dmarkable should be worth like 41.5k marks! Gonna be pretty close to OPPs 3.57GHz score id say :toast:
What brand of TCCD you using Pedro?
You dont need more than 3475 too get 41866p :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8283684
i think i must get that heat spreader of the cpu... Hope it can give me 50-100more mhz?
What doo you guys think? Is it worth the risk of a dead cpu?
how would removing the heatspreader help? It may hurt it cause its suppose to spread the heat away from the die. your 100MHz below OPPs cpu power yet you edge him in the system tests. I guess his win2k3 is hurting him more than I thought there. OPP is still the champ cause of the 340 nature and no one can get within 100MHz of his cpu clocks.
Geforce... 41,5k I did @ 3.383 Mhz and low gpu clocks.... (12,27 Marks per cpu mhz)
Better look over your maths, do you think a cascade only worth 200mhz more in comparison with a Prometeia ? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Then OPPs score should be at least 1k higher than what its at now and win2k3 shouldnt be costing him 1000 marks, xp yes. eshbach gets almost 10 marks per cpu MHz, so lets say 10 per MHz. Overklokk needs about 3.6GHz cpu power to just barely break 43k. if you disagree, let me know what itll be then ;)
edit: I see people hit ~3.2 on prom, 3.4-3.5 on cascade. maybe youll get a lucky chip and hit 3.6 :slobber: :D If you use more than 2 stage cascade then it could be 3.7
What could be better at spreading/removing heat than copper holding -90c?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
The HS is one more layer to increase thermal resistans. Removing HS can and will give better temps. This is basic physics mr.Ti4200
so what was the point of amd using heatspreaders in a64s if they all do better without them and itll save amd a buck per cpu?
it saves AMD money because they dont have to reaplace cracked cpu'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
and it helps noobs get better contact
With a HS on they dont get as many RMAs (chipped cores) as without, and its much more easy to mount cooling solutions. You dont need the same perfect finish on the bottom of heatsink either, as the area to transfer heat is greater. BUT, with really good cooling the increased thermal resistanse will result in higher temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
If you think about it, its quite clear. Why should the thermalpaste between the AMD HS be better than the one we supply?
The more layers of copper and thermal paste, the more thermal resistanse we will get.
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Do you think AMD cares how high a CPU will overclock??
The core is pretty fragile and easily cracked in the wrong hands.
Good enough a reason for AMD to put a spreader on.
There is a sticky in the best of AMD about this where ppl gained over 75MHz.
You say not worth it?
:toast:
**Overklokk** @ Ocshoot.no 42K
:YIPPIE:
Congrats :D
Yeah watch out for the crazy Norway guy!! :D