WELL.......NOW guess what THIS does....Warning 56K / photos...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cetoole

Hipro5, good thing you aren't in the US, violation of my eighth amendment rights, what have I done to deserve this cruel and unusual punishment? At least post more pictures for me to :slobber: on.

---

:D :D

Sorry for my delays guys but me and my family where ill for about a week now.....I was in and out for some fast times in the forums just to take a look of the happenings......... :(

Some update of the Mobos......... ;)

U P D A T E

How long do you expect before the units are ready for sale? After you recieve the pcbs of course. One month? more?

Good thing to hear about compatibility with the neo2 :toast:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CTKP

How long do you expect before the units are ready for sale? After you recieve the pcbs of course. One month? more?

Good thing to hear about compatibility with the neo2 :toast:

---

The PCB's will come READY and compleate just for checking EACH one of them and boxing them......So I don't think that I'll spend a lot of time for it...... ;)

So when will they be available in the usa?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by confuzzedintel

So when will they be available in the usa?

---

Well, just factor the time before he recieves the pcbs + testing+ packaging+ shipment+ also getting retailers. So just give him some time. He knows we're all very anxious.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CTKP

Well, just factor the time before he recieves the pcbs + testing+ packaging+ shipment+ also getting retailers. So just give him some time. He knows we're all very anxious.

---

Thanks........ :toast:

Retailers are ready and waiting.......... :) ;)

damn i cant wait, sign me up :)

Some pics from my DDR Maximizer :D :D :D :D

http://www.nobrains.gr/maxim1.jpg

http://www.nobrains.gr/maxim2.jpg

http://www.nobrains.gr/maxim3.jpg

All I have to say is that this works like a charm on my MSI Neo2 K8N mobo. Hipro has done an excellent job. This is a great product!!

Its an honor to have this in my system :toast: Thanks George!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trooper_GR

Some pics from my DDR Maximizer :D :D :D :D


All I have to say is that this works like a charm on my MSI Neo2 K8N mobo. Hipro has done an excellent job. This is a great product!!

Its an honor to have this in my system :toast: Thanks George!

---

Thanks Trooper...........Thanks a lot for BETA testing too......... ;) :toast:

That looks :slobber:! I :bows: to your great skill. What kind of performance does it give you, and I want to know which retailers will have it first.

Still waiting... it has been excuruitingly long wait eversince it was "introduced". So whose the retailor for US on this sweet gizmo?

Gimmah gimma gimmmah!! :D :D Can you give a list of retailers yet?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cetoole

That looks :slobber:! I :bows: to your great skill. What kind of performance does it give you, and I want to know which retailers will have it first.

---

Yeah it looks great and it performs great also! This is a BETA version though, it does not have any kind of letters on it (for information purposes, which one does what etc), and the front panel is not the final one.

The final one will look much smoother and nicer! However this is for the looks only. The internal part of the monster is pretty much finished (no BETA ;) ) and it performs excelent. I have tried it all the way up to 3.45v and it works like a charm. :cool: It gives you ddr voltage increases in .05 steps. I think Hipro has explained all this already :)

And the great part is that its far away from the RAM, and it does not get hot!!! I even change voltage on the fly , while running memtest ;)

damn i was going to get a p4c800-e and a ddr booster but now it looks like i can get the Max2 and just get one of these when it becomes available...

hipro you put ocz under the table.

great job dude... i dont think ive ever been so exited about a part like this.

not only that, great job on the DDR/DDR2 idea.

cheers bud :toast:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Revv23

damn i was going to get a p4c800-e and a ddr booster but now it looks like i can get the Max2 and just get one of these when it becomes available...

hipro you put ocz under the table.

great job dude... i dont think ive ever been so exited about a part like this.

not only that, great job on the DDR/DDR2 idea.

cheers bud :toast:

---

Thanks M8........ :toast:

Nobody is "under the table"........OCZ made a product which is also good and cheep enough so as everyone can buy it.......Mine is just more complicated and more expensive....... ;)

so this ddr maximizer thing will work with both DDR and DDR2? If it does, how will that work? Will we have to change the pcb ourselves and etc?

^the maximizer is in your 3.5 bay, and you just change the memory pcb from a ddr one to a ddr2 one, which i assume will be sold seperatly.

Hipro5, does it work on DFI NFII Infinity? If yes, make sure you keep one for me. If you can't deliver to Cyprus, i can send my grandmother ,who is in Athens for 2 weeks, and get it. Please help.

BTW, PERFECT job my friend!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DragonFlight

Hipro5, does it work on DFI NFII Infinity? If yes, make sure you keep one for me. If you can't deliver to Cyprus, i can send my grandmother ,who is in Athens for 2 weeks, and get it. Please help.

BTW, PERFECT job my friend!

---

Thanks M8......... :toast:

On a DFI NFII Inf. hasn't tested yet.........When it does , I'll post it on the mobos compability chart....... ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by situman

so this ddr maximizer thing will work with both DDR and DDR2? If it does, how will that work? Will we have to change the pcb ourselves and etc?

---

You just plug whichever DDR PCB you want into motherboard's DDR Slot - whichever you wish - and a conector which connects the DDR Maximizer to it's DDR PCB.......The DDR PCB is high enough , you can put it in whichever DDR slot you wish , it doesn't produse any heat and it's TOO thin.......It's as thin is a DDR ram module exept from the chips on it.......So it's VERY thin...... ;)

If you get a chance to check it on the AN7, would be great, but if not, I hopefully will be testing it soon.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

You just plug whichever DDR PCB you want into motherboard's DDR Slot - whichever you wish - and a conector which connects the DDR Maximizer to it's DDR PCB.......The DDR PCB is high enough , you can put it in whichever DDR slot you wish , it doesn't produse any heat and it's TOO thin.......It's as thin is a DDR ram module exept from the chips on it.......So it's VERY thin...... ;)

---

Great knowing me, i will snap it like a wafer cookie. :(

any pictures of the DDR pcb if it is indeed finished?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

Thanks M8......... :toast:

On a DFI NFII Inf. hasn't tested yet.........When it does , I'll post it on the mobos compability chart....... ;)

---

I have an infinity to test it on if you want, my BH-5 could use some more power, hell, ill even pay for the test sample :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

You just plug whichever DDR PCB you want into motherboard's DDR Slot - whichever you wish - and a conector which connects the DDR Maximizer to it's DDR PCB.......The DDR PCB is high enough , you can put it in whichever DDR slot you wish , it doesn't produse any heat and it's TOO thin.......It's as thin is a DDR ram module exept from the chips on it.......So it's VERY thin...... ;)

---

Need a beta tester for DDR2 Hipro? :)

Are you going to be making a 5" black bay version later? Or do you really even need it in a bay at all?

Also, how much voltage can bh-5 actually take? I can give it 3.2 now but it really isn't enough... how much would 3.6 or above get me?

BH-5 can take 3.6 24/7, and can go up to 4 or even higher is your a risky one :)

and he answered the 5" by question earlier, some company or other makes a 3.5 to 5.25 in converter plate...

So cool Hipro what are you educated as?
are you an engineer, offcourse you are, what type of an engineer ?? :D

I thinks he's electronic engineer ;)

ELECTRO :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SwimmerBoy

I thinks he's electronic engineer ;)

ELECTRO :D

---

the circuit's not THAT complicated :)

It's just a Buck-type Switching regulator with a few tidbits...display..input...etc..etc :stick:

oh yeah just a buck type switching regulartor no problem

i thought he was an RF engineer....

Certifiable mad scientist genius, otherwise known as an RF Engineer.

Hey ehm, is their a chance we will be able to buy a do-it-all-by-yourself-packet? :)

To reduce the costs for those who can solder, and want to adept the frontplate to their own demands :)

So just PCB and components (not nessesary the leddisplays, you find them everywhere, I even have them 24/7 at home ;) )

If(do-iet-all-bai-jourselve-pakkett = true)
{
teller++
printf("big kisses from belgium! ,% :banana: ")
}

:toast:

ZMarre >> Like C do you? :D

Man I need some juice to my poor bh-6! They only get about 3,1V atm :(

When can we see the wonders of this thing in the stores or something? :)

Great work :)

really looking forward to pics of the RAM slot PCB's. The example pictures look great

so where is it?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LikwidKool

so where is it?

---

yeah, where is it?

I want one for my Christmas :D

man ive got the money saved and ive got the BH-5/infinity/ IC7G waiting, just tell me where to sign for two of em :)

Hi there guys......... :)

For those who asked , I'm an electronic engineer with designing and construction knowledge on RF(Radio Frequency up to 4GHz) digital and PSU circuits

Here's a Prefinal Version V.1.2 in aluminium colour sample........Same will be in Black colour with white or gold tiny letters......Don't pay any attention on the "cutting" details coz they are made by me - handmade - and not by a machine...... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/M...inal_1_jpg.jpg

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

Hi there guys......... :)

For those who asked , I'm an electronic engineer with designing and construction knowledge on RF(Radio Frequency up to 4GHz) digital and PSU circuits

Here's a Prefinal Version V.1.2 in aluminium colour sample........Same will be in Black colour with white or gold tiny letters......Don't pay any attention on the "cutting" details coz they are made by me - handmade - and not by a machine...... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/M...inal_1_jpg.jpg

---

Wow! that looks nice! except for the cutting :D

EDIT: DDR1 and DDR2 modes?? :confused:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

Thanks M8......... :toast:

On a DFI NFII Inf. hasn't tested yet.........When it does , I'll post it on the mobos compability chart....... ;)

---

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :toast:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by notoriousformula

EDIT: DDR1 and DDR2 modes?? :confused:

---

The "inside" switch between the Led Displays and the Dip switches is for DDR and DDR2........ ;)

Also this photo is for DDR2 Rams..... ;)

Do you think we will see these before Christmas? Have they already gone into mass production?

damn thats awesome man

:toast:

your craftmanship is top notch too, the cutting isnt perfect, but ive tried jobs like that and i know how hard presice cutting is and youve outdone me by a longshot.

do you have any shots of the RAM PCB's yet?


anyways, i got my new BH-5 last night and its doing 255 2-2-2-11 at 3.3v before the burn in, its just screaming for more...

i cant wait for the next update man. very well done.

:toast:

good to hear about an update :)

the drive bay display looks nice, though it seems a little crowdd with the text :D
but other than that it looks nice!

Nice job Hipro!!
Keep the updates coming!

we want more! we want more!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cranox

I want one for my Christmas :D

---

Haha how happy would you be to find THAT under your tree :)

too bad im in the philippines :(

ok it looks like itll be a long time before we see these things, guess ill just vmod these boards the hard way...

*goes to hipro's IC7 guide*

hehehe

HiPro, cant believe I didnt see this thread before... this looks very professional, minute it comes out I'm sold!

Any ETA on first release yet?

Good work :toast:

Really nice. I am gonna get one as soon as it's available!!

so how will this be powered? just a molex connector? or more?

It's geting ready......... ;)

It will be powered from two molexes - for best amperaz - .......If we have 2 x 256MB Ram sticks , we can feed it with only one molex......but if we have 2 x 512MB Ram sticks , we have to feed it with two molexes.......NOT for the DDR Maximizer (it will not harm or burn it) BUT for the molexes themshelves not to be melted........ ;)

Also the MAX - MAX Vdroop (flactuation) we will measure on a Mobo's Mos-Fet will be "0"......For example : IF we pick the 3.30Volts when we are in IDLE and then we run - let's say - memtest86 , we will measure on our digital 3,5digit multimeter , 3.30Volts.....On full load we will measure 3.30Volts.....That's the final revision V.1.2.....with 1.5mV~2.5mV(0.0015 ~0.0025Volts) flactuation ;)

ALSO some Mobo's UPDATE..... H E R E .........

damn i have some bh-5 sitting there waiting to be installed in my ic7. About how much longer before it comes out? :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

It's geting ready......... ;)

It will be powered from two molexes - for best amperaz - .......If we have 2 x 256MB Ram sticks , we can feed it with only one molex......but if we have 2 x 512MB Ram sticks , we have to feed it with two molexes.......NOT for the DDR Maximizer (it will not harm or burn it) BUT for the molexes themshelves not to be melted........ ;)

Also the MAX - MAX Vdroop (flactuation) we will measure on a Mobo's Mos-Fet will be "0"......For example : IF we pick the 3.30Volts when we are in IDLE and then we run - let's say - memtest86 , we will measure on our digital 3,5digit multimeter , 3.30Volts.....On full load we will measure 3.30Volts.....That's the final revision V.1.2.....with 1.5mV~2.5mV(0.0015 ~0.0025Volts) flactuation ;)

ALSO some Mobo's UPDATE..... H E R E .........

---

you should be building power supples :slobber: :p:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jack

i don't think so :D
i want one aswell :toast:

---

hahah same here! :D

oh man thats impressive...

i can easily vmod my stuff but keeping it at constant volts like that is another story...

i love you hipro..

edit - any word on an nforce2 mobo?

hipro, i try not to clog this thread, but all i want to say that "i've been watching this for so long, and drooling already =)" :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana4:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by enzoR

you should be building power supples :slobber: :p:

---

You mean this 250 watt hipro psu is not by our Hipro? :confused: :lol:

if this thing need two molex's on lots of ram, it must draw some serious amps heh, is it off the 5v or 12v? (for the most part)

Very nice work :cool: You are very talented.

I was gonna guess it was an alarm clock :p:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Revv23

if this thing need two molex's on lots of ram, it must draw some serious amps heh, is it off the 5v or 12v? (for the most part)

---

It doesn't draw amps.........RAM stick does......through it...... ;)

2 x 256MB draw at 3.4Volts almost 3 amps each = 6 amps tottal at full load.........Now 2 x 512MB sticks draw about 12 amps at full load and at 3.4Volts........So one molex (5Volts) can't handle for 24/7 this load........For benchies will be OK but for 27/4 no........You could ask : Yes but are my Ram sticks going to work 24/7 at full load?.......No but why don't we be "more" pro-ffessionals.?..... ;)

It feeds from 12Volts line (for the stabilizers) and from the 5Volts line for the output load......If you feed it without thr Ram sticks , it - by it shelf - draws some mA to work...... ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by runmc

Very nice work :cool: You are very talented.

I was gonna guess it was an alarm clock :p:

---

:D :D

so basically memory will get its power from teh 5volt line. I thought it was going to run of the 12v line and I was worried my dual rail Enermax might not have enough amps.

Also, can other peripherals be plugged into the same molexes as the ones going into the maximizer?

"t doesn't draw amps.........RAM stick does......through it...... "


yes thats what i mean heh

i like that it draws from 5v as it seems everything uses 12v these days and my psu is a little low in the 12v dept, but its got tons left on the 5v

I agree, my 5vRail is massive but doesnt seem to be utilised for much... this is perfect for me.

lol yeah that PCP&C must really be crying lol....

she will be once HiPro sells me one of these beasts! hehehe

Hey HiPro,
Im new to this forum, but stumbled upon your thread here. I took the liberty of creating a thread over at OCforums.com for ya with all the pics and some details. Maybe you should drop by ;) and im DEF interested in one. got 2x512mb of BH-5 ready to go into a NF7-S v2

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.p...0&page=1&pp=30

-Zach

so yeah, any word on nfII compatibility?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ZMarre

Hey ehm, is their a chance we will be able to buy a do-it-all-by-yourself-packet? :)

To reduce the costs for those who can solder, and want to adept the frontplate to their own demands :)

So just PCB and components (not nessesary the leddisplays, you find them everywhere, I even have them 24/7 at home ;) )

If(do-iet-all-bai-jourselve-pakkett = true)
{
teller++
printf("big kisses from belgium! ,% :banana: ")
}

:toast:

---

Any comment plz Hippro? :stick:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ZMarre

Any comment plz Hippro? :stick:

---

I don't think so coz it includes a lot of SMD parts too....... ;)

Any ETA yet?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hipro5

I don't think so coz it includes a lot of SMD parts too....... ;)

---

OK, you got point DOH :toast:

wahh

this device looks awesome :D i'm really amazed what ppl do with there knowledge ;)


how long do we have to wait till retail :D ? i just want one i will perfectly fit into my lianli and to my rig :D

:banana:

and back to the do it yourself version i also know how to solder smd :D (just solderd a 0.5mil tqfp ic :D )

GL Hipro5

I've always liked you bud, always willing to share the knowledge you have garnered without question.

m

Hipro, can I be your sole us. distributor :D j/k. Can't wait to try it....congrats

So... when do I give you my money? I want on with blue LEDs as well... :slobber:

What I don't understand is how things like this thing and the DDR booster from OCZ work. Doesn't the motherboard already give a certain voltage? You can't just give it "more", because you'd have a short (copper is pretty conductive ;)), right?

its not a short, youre just feeding it twice
and the Maximer/booster just gives a bit more juice than the mobo.
But that isn't a problem :)

If the mobo is still giving +2.8 (or whatever) compared to ground, and you're putting 3.2 on the same rail, you've got a (Delta)V of 0.4, so why doesn't it short?
The only thing I can think of is that the memory slots are connected serially, but that'd seem stupid to me, because if one slot is borked the rest is too...


"More juice" isn't a technical explanation IMHO. The only thing you could do to feed it "more juice" is to put the exact same voltage (same source) through a thicker wire so that you can pull a bit more amps through it.

[dutch]
Of mis ik delen van m'n fysica? Zou voor een aspirant regent toch echt niet mogen ;) Je gaat op een of andere manier de stroom die het moederbord zelf levert moeten tegenhouden... Wat wel kan is dat de slots in serie staan en dat je dus het doorlussen tegenhoudt.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by racoontje

If the mobo is still giving +2.8 (or whatever) compared to ground, and you're putting 3.2 on the same rail, you've got a (Delta)V of 0.4, so why doesn't it short?

---

a short only happens when a current is directly connected to the ground. That doesnt happen when you feed the mem twice.

Quote:

---

"More juice" isn't a technical explanation IMHO. The only thing you could do to feed it "more juice" is to put the exact same voltage (same source) through a thicker wire so that you can pull a bit more amps through it.

[dutch]
Of mis ik delen van m'n fysica? Zou voor een aspirant regent toch echt niet mogen ;) Je gaat op een of andere manier de stroom die het moederbord zelf levert moeten tegenhouden... Wat wel kan is dat de slots in serie staan en dat je dus het doorlussen tegenhoudt.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jack

a short only happens when a current is directly connected to the ground. That doesnt happen when you feed the mem twice.

---

I'm pretty sure that a short circuit is when two electrical conductors are connected by another conductor and when R = ~0. For example, you can turn a motherboard on by shorting the power pins. You can short two poles, with neither being ground (think power outlet).

Also, the problem isn't that the memory is fed twice (it's highly credible that the current LM

It is because the FETs cut off when the voltage on the reduced side is higher than the desired one, to make the votage go down..
so it is not fed twice..
that is how i understood it at least.

that makes sense

Yeah, I guess that could be right, the only thing that made sense would be that the IC senses Vdimm (and if Vout>Vdimm, disconnect it)

For jack though
You can't feed a part "more" voltage by feeding it 2.8 AND 3.2... You WILL create a short, and due to the very low resistance of copper you WILL cause a lot of current to flow and you WILL most likely blow a copper rail off your board.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by racoontje

Yeah, I guess that could be right, the only thing that made sense would be that the IC senses Vdimm (and if Vout>Vdimm, disconnect it)

For jack though
You can't feed a part "more" voltage by feeding it 2.8 AND 3.2... You WILL create a short, and due to the very low resistance of copper you WILL cause a lot of current to flow and you WILL most likely blow a copper rail off your board.

---

okay :D
i'm no electronic engineer and my explanation seemed logical to me.
But FET cutting off voltage when voltage is higher on the reduced side, makes more sense indeed :)

Isn't it just like putting another batterey in a simple circuit, only in a different place? For that matter, why should it matter where in the circuit the battery is in the first place?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by racoontje

Yeah, I guess that could be right, the only thing that made sense would be that the IC senses Vdimm (and if Vout>Vdimm, disconnect it)

For jack though
You can't feed a part "more" voltage by feeding it 2.8 AND 3.2... You WILL create a short, and due to the very low resistance of copper you WILL cause a lot of current to flow and you WILL most likely blow a copper rail off your board.

---

That is correct because its 1 circuit with a comon ground. try connecting your 5v rail to your 12v rail to proove it :eek: dont do that!!

the reason why this works is because the mosfets stop switching when the voltage on the drain pin is above what it is set to.
:confused: hmm or was it becasue the mosfet then acts as a diode and blocks the current from flowing backwards? i think that was it. kinda forgot this stuff aswell.
it could also be that once the voltage feedback chip detects a higher voltage than what it is set to produce it will make the mosfets produce less and less volts until the mosfets produce 0v and stop switching.

1 of those 3 atleast. :D

The important bit is that the MOSFET stops working when it senses voltage (coming from the booster) :)

any updates?? The updates ran dry for a while. WHen can we expect these things on the shelf? I have some BH-5 hiding in my drawer.

:confused:

Hi there and HAPPY THE NEW YEAR to all of us...... :D :toast:


I'm waiting for the "CE" certificate so as to be ready for selling.......I think any time soon........You know , you have to have a LOT of money so as to "push" a bit those things......IF you want them to take a "good and FAST care" of you , you have to "feed with money" some employs of the gov. to do so.......or you hust waiting for your turn to come...... ;)

Cool I didn't know it worked like that, interesting......

awesome hipro, so does that mean production is already underway?