It was RAID.Quote:
Originally posted by Dissolved
well newegg showd the kd7 (no raid verison red, maybe Abit re-did the kd7?
was yours raid or non-raid?
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It was RAID.Quote:
Originally posted by Dissolved
well newegg showd the kd7 (no raid verison red, maybe Abit re-did the kd7?
was yours raid or non-raid?
My 2nd Raid KD7 is doing fine so far..24/7 folding for several days with small OC. I did add a HS on the South Bridge. I am waiting on Prom before I crank it up.:D
maybe thats why? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by nelamvr6
It was RAID.
Well, I just ordered an Epox 8K9A2+ It got a pretty good review here.
It's got a lot of OC goodies: Vcore up to 2.0V, Vmem up to 3.25V. Runs pretty stable at high FSB.
And of course all the general KT400 goodness.
I probably won't be able to put it in for a couple of weeks though, I have to go out of town on a business trip.
it has ridicoulous memory bandwith at 200mhz bus. See VRZone review and see sandra's score... moreover it's with most aggressive timingsQuote:
Originally posted by nelamvr6
Well, I just ordered an Epox 8K9A2+ It got a pretty good review here.
It's got a lot of OC goodies: Vcore up to 2.0V, Vmem up to 3.25V. Runs pretty stable at high FSB.
And of course all the general KT400 goodness.
I probably won't be able to put it in for a couple of weeks though, I have to go out of town on a business trip.
nelamvr6, I think most people here would agree with me. Keep your KX7-333 and do not get any KT400 board, period. The newest bios for the KX7-333 supports the 2400-2800+ Wait for the KT400A, or better yet, the N-Force2. If you are dying for AGP8X, your desire is unfounded. There is no app or game that takes advantage of AGP 8X yet anyway.
i agree..Quote:
Originally posted by emtp563
nelamvr6, I think most people here would agree with me. Keep your KX7-333 and do not get any KT400 board, period. The newest bios for the KX7-333 supports the 2400-2800+ Wait for the KT400A, or better yet, the N-Force2. If you are dying for AGP8X, your desire is unfounded. There is no app or game that takes advantage of AGP 8X yet anyway.
for :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:s & giggles when i first got my kd7 i e-mailed abit about the 1/6 and this was the reply.
Dear Customer,
1/6 divider does work. To have 1/6 divider work properly, you must have the FSB set to 200Mhz but the performance is not guaranteed since the RAM and CPU may not able to work at 200Mhz bus speed. Setting the FSB down to a lower speed and still maintain 6:2:1 ratio may not work either, since most AGP video card require 66Mhz. example setting CPU FSB at 100 (default) and 6:2:1, will result in AGP bus speed at 33Mhz and the system is pretty much not going to post.
Thank you.
Regards
ABIT FAE
Please always reply with the previous messages, so that I know what we have tried and what were the symptoms.
Please keep in mind that you can always get help from the following websites:
Drivers, bios, FAQ, and Manual: http://fae.abit.com.tw
Bios update instruction: http://fae.abit.com.tw/eng/download/bioshelp.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: nick
To: technical@abit-usa.com
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:12 PM
Subject: abit kd7
hello, i just got the new kd7 motherboard a couple of days ago and for 1 my ATI Radeon 9700 will not work with it. 2. i cant use the 1/6 divider no matter what front side bus i use, i always get no post. is this a common problem so far with these new motherboards? please let me no anything because i like this board and do not want to RMA it..
Don't bother wasting your time. RMA it- the board sucks. Haven't you read this whole thread?
well, board itself doesn't suck, since it's VIA's fault. let's just wait for their "flawless" rev. A - KT400A.Quote:
Don't bother wasting your time. RMA it- the board sucks. Haven't you read this whole thread?
I'm not unhappy with the board in anyway other than the inaccurate sys temps and the hdd corruption. Running rock solid same as opp... 1950Mhz, 200x9.5 @2v cpu, 3v mem... 2-4-2-5-2-1T.... so wouldn't say it sucks.
OK, I can't overclock as high as I could with my Epox, but we all know the answer to that.... Epox's relaxed CPU Command Decode settings & mem registers... and even at this lower speed, it still kicks the Epox boards' butt in every bench I throw at it... (We're talking 8K3A+, 8K5A2+ & 8K5A3+ here)
For a KT400 board I'd say it does anything BUT suck....
emtp563
I agree completely with marci. I think you are the 1st in this thread to say it sucks. It has some problems as marci stated above, but also some improvements over the KX7. I love my KX7, but it has become my number 2 board, replaced by my KD7. What problems are you having with yours to make you denounce it so strongly? I agree that if you have a KX7, you may choose to wait for the new boards to come out, but I do not regret buying my KD7 at all.:D
Well said Marci!Quote:
Originally posted by Marci
I'm not unhappy with the board in anyway other than the inaccurate sys temps and the hdd corruption. Running rock solid same as opp... 1950Mhz, 200x9.5 @2v cpu, 3v mem... 2-4-2-5-2-1T.... so wouldn't say it sucks.
OK, I can't overclock as high as I could with my Epox, but we all know the answer to that.... Epox's relaxed CPU Command Decode settings & mem registers... and even at this lower speed, it still kicks the Epox boards' butt in every bench I throw at it... (We're talking 8K3A+, 8K5A2+ & 8K5A3+ here)
For a KT400 board I'd say it does anything BUT suck....
I feel exactly the same way about the board. Besides the issues you've mentioned, I've had no troubles with the board either.
Overclocking has become very easy to do over the last few years and I think users expectations sometimes get a bit out of line with reality.
I think you nailed it right there mdzcpa, I couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
Overclocking has become very easy to do over the last few years and I think users expectations sometimes get a bit out of line with reality.
OPP
Absolutely, They offer you a board that does not need any volt mods and supports a factory unlocked chip....not to mention the ram and video improvements. All you need is the cash and enough know how to match the right components and any newbie can get OCs that would have made a hardcore Overclocker foam at the mouth a year ago.:DQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I think you nailed it right there mdzcpa, I couldn't agree more.
OPP
Well my main issue with the board is that it died!
For the few hours it was working it was a pleasure. I was at FSB 200 withing an hour of system installation, and 200 x 11 within 2 hours. It was rock solid.
Right up until it died!
But reading about all the problems other people are having with these boards and then having a board die on me has soured me to Abit's current offerings. I love the KX7-333R so I'll never say anything bad about Abit generally, but it seems they have to get a better handle on the QA of their latest offerings.
I'm wanting to try out the KT400 chipset while I wait to see what the nforce2 boards do. I can afford it, so I'm going to give this board a try. Seeing as how I haven't been able to break FSB 200 at all on my KX7 and was able to do so within a half hour of trying on a KT400 board I don't see it as a waste of time. The little time I speant with the KD7 definitely showed me that using the 2400+ in the KX7 was leaving a lot of the chip untouched.
But this is definitely an interim board (aren't they all? ;)) we'll see how the whole KT400A/nforce2 thing shakes out.
The worst that happens is I have a KX7-333R as a spare, and this spring sometime I'll get a better board. then I can use one of the spares to build a system for my sister.
So who's not happy?
True, but I'd like to try my hand at it if you don't mind. And according to the review it was running stable at 226 FSB. I don't plan on running that high, but its nice to see that at least someone has had some success doing so.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
it has ridicoulous memory bandwith at 200mhz bus. See VRZone review and see sandra's score... moreover it's with most aggressive timings
I think I'll at least be able to break 3000 on the Sandra mem benchmark with this board.
But more importantly I feel that I have a good shot at getting a board that will be reliable and not suffer from some of the problems that the KD7 suffers from.
Don't get me wrong, the feature set is great. Me thinks my system is sucking too much power. I know you guys can steer me in the right direction. I have an Antec 400W PSU, my 12V voltage is extremely low (see screenshot). THis PSU does not have one of those extra 12V P4 connectors that plugs in to the motherboard. Do you think if I got another PSU that has this connector it will bring my 12V voltage up? And if so, do you think I can squeeze an extra 100Mhz out of the chip like I did on my KX7?
http://www.oc-athlonxp.com/web_images/2400/voltage.jpg
emtp563,
Do you run the vapo off that same PSU? If so, wouldn't that be the reason for your low 12v? :)
I don't own a vapo but it seems logical to me.
Yes I do, but it was never a problem on any other motherboard. If any voltage was ever low, it was the +5V. My pot on the Antec is already tweaked. If I increase the pot anymore, I'll increase the +5V as well. My +5V is already at 5.2V.
If you guys think it's my PSU, what new PSU would you reccomend? How would an Antec True-Power 550W be? I've heard mixed reviews about those, especially w/ low 5V rail voltages.
Hey OPP....
which driver is the new ati one... I have 6166 currently and thats what i d/l from ati's site.. is there somewhere else i can get a newer one?
Thanks
slayher
P.S. I have a KD7 and its doing great for me. The only issue i have right now is the fact my 9700 wont go over 180 with out causing problems. I've got better bandwith than i ever have and its running my 2400 @ 2300Mhz on air right now so i cant complain.
thats my $.02 anyway.
All I can say is TTGI 520SS PSU. Review to be up within the a day or 2.
Go here, tell Chris OPPAINTER sent you from Xtremesystems.org
http://store.yahoo.com/directron/tt500ss.html
$78.00
If you want a preview of the Review e-mail me.
OPPAINTER
OPP
The 6193 driverQuote:
Originally posted by slayher
Hey OPP....
which driver is the new ati one... I have 6166 currently and thats what i d/l from ati's site.. is there somewhere else i can get a newer one?
Thanks
slayher
P.S. I have a KD7 and its doing great for me. The only issue i have right now is the fact my 9700 wont go over 180 with out causing problems. I've got better bandwith than i ever have and its running my 2400 @ 2300Mhz on air right now so i cant complain.
thats my $.02 anyway.
http://www.guru3d.com/files/
OPP
On the TT-520SS 520W PSU what is the add on Connector Covers? I do not think I have ever heard of such.
MB,Quote:
Originally posted by mbrock
On the TT-520SS 520W PSU what is the add on Connector Covers? I do not think I have ever heard of such.
Could'nt tell you, there was no such thing with the PSU unit I got.
OPP
Thanks OPP... gonna see what i can do now
slayher
I think the connector covers just cover unused connectors, I don't have them either. The TTGI 520w is the best PS I have ever used, I run 2 of them now.:D
thanks again OPP.... it got me alittle more on my fsb, but not much.. i guess my 9700 is just a poor one...
Consider yourself lucky lol I can't finish 3dmarks at 180fsb. 175 is the highest I can get stabely.
thanks ..... that makes me feel better to know that i'm not the only unlucky one.
DOES ANYONE have the RED KD7(non raid) mobo?
newegg shows the KD7(non raid) a red pcb.
one of us needs to buy it, and see if we have problems?
cuz im wondering why newegg shows it red when everywhere else its yellow.
did u see the date on that e-mail? i RMA'ed that mobo long ago.Quote:
Originally posted by emtp563
Don't bother wasting your time. RMA it- the board sucks. Haven't you read this whole thread?
i agree its a nice board but not better then the KX7. the r about =. i still think the kx7 is better but thats my opinion. i think the reason i was so mad is cause my 9700 would not work with it. btw my board was red and it was 1 of the 1st ones out so i dont think its anything diff.
I need to know if the KD7 has access to all of the multipliers without connecting the L3 bridges?
Yes. This is a fact with the T-Breds (2200+, 2400+). I don't know if this applies to the Palomino's.
It's such a bummer people are haveing Problems with the Radeon and the KD7. I just pluged mine in and had no problem bringing to 200, Luck of the draw I guess.
OPP
That is all I wanted to hear because someone from another sites says that you only have access to just higher multipliers not the lower ones. :)Quote:
Originally posted by emtp563
Yes. This is a fact with the T-Breds (2200+, 2400+). I don't know if this applies to the Palomino's.
I also showed the 2200 with access to all and even more of the multipliers with no mod at the begining of the thread:) Dude has a 2400 and KD7, all he did was slap it on the KD7 and it was up and running, all multipliers included.
OPP
it is a bummer.... Last night i borrowed a friends ti4200 and put it in my KD7... it did 205x11 with no problems... even played unreal2k3 for an hour after that.... my 9700 wont go any higher than 180.....even with the new driver and all the reomended settings.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
It's such a bummer people are haveing Problems with the Radeon and the KD7. I just pluged mine in and had no problem bringing to 200, Luck of the draw I guess.
OPP
I can report that the KD7 non raid shipped from NewEgg Monday is yellow. I was not pleased, but not willing to pull it back out just to try for a red one.
BTW, I know several have reported high system temps, but mine seem even higher. Running a 2400+ at 11.5x190, vcore at 1.775. System temp in WinBond HWmonitor shows 63C, CPU at 36C. I would like to change over to MBM5, anyone care to share the sensor settings?
yea, newegg just got a new shipment in maybe these will be REDQuote:
Originally posted by Camelot One
I can report that the KD7 non raid shipped from NewEgg Monday is yellow. I was not pleased, but not willing to pull it back out just to try for a red one.
id like to buy a KD7, but it seems theres alot of small issues. id only give up my at7 cuz it has low voltage and only 3 pci, other then that id keep it. well i might have a prob with higher then 171fsb but it could be my memory..
but anyways. I still want to know if anyone can find a RED Kd7 and test it.
I called NewEgg when my board arrived, the guy I talked to said the early KD7s were red, but the supply they have been getting lately have been brown/yellow. Could that be the sign of Abit vrs. ECS made?
The system temps are strange, they go up with the cpu temps, the hotter the cpu the hotter the sys temps.Quote:
Originally posted by Camelot One
I can report that the KD7 non raid shipped from NewEgg Monday is yellow. I was not pleased, but not willing to pull it back out just to try for a red one.
BTW, I know several have reported high system temps, but mine seem even higher. Running a 2400+ at 11.5x190, vcore at 1.775. System temp in WinBond HWmonitor shows 63C, CPU at 36C. I would like to change over to MBM5, anyone care to share the sensor settings?
OPP
Quote:
Originally posted by Camelot One
I called NewEgg when my board arrived, the guy I talked to said the early KD7s were red, but the supply they have been getting lately have been brown/yellow. Could that be the sign of Abit vrs. ECS made?
Hm thats weird. if the yellow is liek a second rev, and theres still problems, then i guess its still not worth it to upgrade.
I have a yellow one... (RAID Version) it will do 205 and after that it corrupts the hdd no matter which controller its on. I cant find a version number and all sandra and wcpuid reports is 1.x.
The system temps dont seem high to me but i do notice the same trend as OPP... the system temp follows the cpu temp very closely.
I never realized how much of a difference in temp there was between the internal diode and the surface (if its right.) On mine there is about a 13C to 17C difference...
as for how well the board operates it seems to be working real well except for the data corruption. But that doesnt matter for me cause my 9700 wont let me go over 180 anyway...
I am getting my XP 2400+ tomorrow. Now I want to know what default mhz is. 1.93ghz or 2.0ghz. I been on some sites saying it was either one.:confused:
its 2.0ghz....
technicaly, its 1995mhz. (15x133) As though anyone would run it at stock anyway....
Actually...technically it is a 1999.95mhz (15 x 133.33) :DQuote:
Originally posted by Camelot One
technicaly, its 1995mhz. (15x133) As though anyone would run it at stock anyway....
According to Abit the only boards made by ECS are the ones they ship to System integrators.... Have a peek at this : cut n pasteQuote:
Originally posted by Camelot One
I called NewEgg when my board arrived, the guy I talked to said the early KD7s were red, but the supply they have been getting lately have been brown/yellow. Could that be the sign of Abit vrs. ECS made?
interview with abit and Chainbolt, overclockers au
OCAU: Where do you produce?
ST: Our factory is in China, close to Shanghai. It’s a huge facility, the size of 15 football fields, with 600 workers. Additionally we have around 400 staff in our Taiwanese head-office.
OCAU: And this huge facility is now idle?
ST: What is this question supposed to be?
OCAU: Well, you recently outsourced your production to ECS! So, what for do you need a factory?
ST: Wait! The ABIT motherboard production is 85% branded and 15% SI, we outsourced ONLY the SI part!
OCAU: What is “SI”?
ST: SI stands for “System Integrators”. This is the way we call non-branded boards sold to system integrators, who sell complete system under their own brand name.
OCAU: Does this mean that all motherboards that come in an “ABIT” labeled box are produced by ABIT in the ABIT factory in Shanghai?
ST: Absolutely yes! Every ABIT board is produced by ABIT! (looks very serious)
OCAU: I guess you are aware about the rumors that certain newer ABIT boards are performing not as good anymore because they are apparently manufactured by ECS. And some people even speculate that your mobos coming in blue boxes are from ECS and the red-boxed boards are from ABIT or the other way around.
ST: ahh..these rumors! ABIT’s Intel chipset based mainboards come in blue boxes and boards with Athlon chipsets get a red box.
OCAU: Wait a moment! I had in total 4 BD7-II mobos, 3 of them came in a blue box and 1 in a read box.
ST: Oh yes! During the soccer World Cup we shipped worldwide all ABIT boards in a red World-Cup box. But now we are back to the usual Intel = blue box and AMD = red box policy.
OCAU: Good to know that all branded ABIT boards are manufactured by ABIT! It’s important for the faithful to know that they get the real thing. Could you tell us about the capacitor problem on your mainboards?
ST: A couple of years ago we used capacitors that might leak after an extended period of use. Affected were mainly boards with the Intel BX chipset. Since around 2 years we are not using this type of capacitor anymore.
There's more if anyone cares to read....
mike,
Could you start a thread posting all this info?? It's great stuff.
It's actually Front Page news:D
OPP
I will make it so.:)Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
mike,
Could you start a thread posting all this info?? It's great stuff.
It's actually Front Page news:D
OPP
If they aren't outsourcing the production of Abit branded mobos then what accounts for the inferior quality of the latest products?
Shoddy QA/QC? Poor design? I doubt its poor design given the quality of previous Abit products.
I realize that my board dying might be only one out of 50, or even out of 100, but it was the last Abit board I'll buy untill I hear things have improved. I'm sure that I'm not the only consumer who behaves this way. Once bitten...
But I have heard more than enough stories of problems to make me think that these are not isolated issues.
If Abit is not careful they may damage their reputation beyond repair.
This is probably not the thread to post a rambling reply, but I'll try to put some kind of response together anyway.
Bottom line, I don't think Abit making, or not making the mobos has anything to do with it. If there is any kind of pressure at all on quality, it's going to be coming from the genral state of the IT economy (which is very poor), and the fact that mobos have turned into a commodity product (which means all mobos are the same and only pice differentiates the products). Abit has always charged a premium for it's products to cover the costs of building a "better" mobo. However, things are so bad for these mobo makers recently that Abit has been forced to cut it's prices...something has to give...maybe some quality or attention to details have been sacrificed (eg no thermal paste on NB of KD7 AT7M2).
However, that said, I really haven't seen this "major decline in Abit quality" that everyone seems to be talking about. As a system builder I go through a ton of mobos every year. I do get a bad one every now and then, but not one brand any more than any others. If anthing, I've had great luck with Abit as compared to the Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte boards I frequently use. The only boards I avoid due to a high level of failure are PC Chips. I even use a ton of ECS boards for enterprise use (corporate clients) without much of an issue.
All I'm saying is that it is very easy to judge the product based on our own experiences (heck...what else do we have to base our opinions on), but in all reality not a single one of us uses enough boards to have a significant sample to base such conclusions on.
Last, do not confuse the inability of Abit's recent products to overclock to the moon without a hiccup to equal quality issues. The fact is that user expectation is what is out of line there. There are never guarantees in overclocking. I only look at the actual mobo failures (mobo no longer runs) to indicate a quality issue.
Yes...we've had a few of those reported here. Does that imply that Abit's QC has gone done the tubes...not sure...way too small a sample. I think most of the poor user "attitiude" re the recent Abit offerings has to due with the inability to hit 200+ FSB speeds without a hiccup more than failure rate. I remember when users were complaining about Abit quality when the KT7A-RAID came out. The KT7A was a very finicky mobo and users blamed quality.
Just food for thought....Sorry about the ramble.
KD7-raid up and running. Doing a break in at 200X11. I have not added any ice to my water yet to push the xp2400+. It has been folding for about 7 hours now with no problems. Radeon 9700 no problems but the temps are a tad higher than what normally run at but some ice will fix that.
How about a 3D Mark score to go with that system ? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by mbrock
KD7-raid up and running. Doing a break in at 200X11. I have not added any ice to my water yet to push the xp2400+. It has been folding for about 7 hours now with no problems. Radeon 9700 no problems but the temps are a tad higher than what normally run at but some ice will fix that.
3Dmark will be done on Saturday or Sunday. I have to put the water block back on the 9700 and do a fresh w2k load. I also want to experiment with all the diff settings for the ram before running 3Dmark. I hope that the increased mhz's will get me back closer to the front page.
Hey Opp, I did some bandwith comparisons with sandra to show my point.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Yea I think your loss is from not haveing the '5' more then CPU Decode.
OPP
This is At7MAX2 with normal cpu command decode and cas 2 2-6-2 1T
http://digilander.libero.it/mybenchm...dra200x9,5.gif
This is KX7 with same timings but fast cpu command decode
http://digilander.libero.it/mybenchm...dra200x9,5.gif
And this is KX7 with fast cpu command decode, cas 2 2-5-2 1T and wpcredit tweaks to show my maximum bandwith.
http://digilander.libero.it/mybenchm...0x9,5tweak.gif
As you can see there is a sensible performance loss in sandra due to cpu commande decode impossibility to be set to fast and due to no wpcredit tweaking (no pcr files...).
I'll have soon a 3dmark comparison ;)
I am using Mother Board Monitor Version 5.2 on my KD7. Is there a better program? MBM appears to be reading both of the CPU sensors but not the system sensor.
There is a add on patch for 5.2 only. I tried to attach it, but it's too big. I will look up your email in member profiles and email it to you:DQuote:
Originally posted by mbrock
I am using Mother Board Monitor Version 5.2 on my KD7. Is there a better program? MBM appears to be reading both of the CPU sensors but not the system sensor.
Well..you don't accept emails. If you pm an addy to me I will send it.
Iolao,,
The first 2 pictures are the only ones you can compare, as you can see the KX7 at fast is what 1 point higher the KD7 at normal. Nothing at all, it actually proves my point.:D
OPP
Hey OPP,Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Iolao,,
The first 2 pictures are the only ones you can compare, as you can see the KX7 at fast is what 1 point higher the KD7 at normal. Nothing at all, it actually proves my point.:D
OPP
I thought the same thing you did. :) It seems pretty conclusive now that the KD7/AT7Max2 at Normal CPU Command Decode equals the KX7 at Fast Decode.
i Still cant deside either to get the Kd7 or the kx7-333 :|
Thats what I suspected:D It's just that the Fast on the KD7,AT72 reacts like Ultra on the KX7 when it comes to how high you can Overclock with it. It just had to be the answer:DQuote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
Hey OPP,
I thought the same thing you did. :) It seems pretty conclusive now that the KD7/AT7Max2 at Normal CPU Command Decode equals the KX7 at Fast Decode.
OPP
Opp, I benched also with wpcredit settings and more aggressive timings (third shoot) just to see how high I could go (remember that on kx7 tweaking is possible while on kt400 at this very momento not yet....). However the two pics DO show a performance loss (see 50MB/s+ with KX7 in RAM Float?). I have to do some performance comparison with 3dmark to be sure.
Which 4in1 drivers are you guys using? I started with the 4.42a thats on the KD7 cd, and finaly tracked down my hard drive corruption problems to them. 4.43 seems to have fixed it, atleast under 200mhz. (I was having trouble even at 133)
stilll breakin it in.
http://68.52.254.200/kd7.jpg
So far so good. 3D test in another 24hours maybe
mbrock,
Looking good so far, lookin good! :)
So do you guys think i should get the Kx7 or the Kd7? i still cant deside :-/
With all the present issues on the KD7 I will keep my KX7 until a revision of the KD7 comes out.:rolleyes:
well i have an at7, and i cant above 171fsb. so i want to get a kx7 or a kd7, but i cant desie with one.Quote:
Originally posted by althes
With all the present issues on the KD7 I will keep my KX7 until a revision of the KD7 comes out.:rolleyes:
Here is pic of my XP 2400+ at 200 x11.5.:D Also a memory score too. I am having no problems what so ever with my KD7.:)
http://webpages.charter.net/badboy686/XP 2400+.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/badboy686/Memory.jpg
your mem score is really good to be at 200Mhz :) congrats! :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by badboy
Here is pic of my XP 2400+ at 200 x11.5.:D Also a memory score too. I am having no problems what so ever with my KD7.:)
http://webpages.charter.net/badboy686/XP 2400+.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/badboy686/Memory.jpg
Can you tell me what timings are you using and if you are able to set cpu command decode to fast at that speed? Thanks ;)
I had command code at normal and max memory timings.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
your mem score is really good to be at 200Mhz :) congrats! :toast:
Can you tell me what timings are you using and if you are able to set cpu command decode to fast at that speed? Thanks ;)
Guys,
I've read most of this thread now. All of you guys are getting corruption above 200Mhz. I have a friend with this board.. 189Mhz is the limit. 190 = die windows!
Also the caps get extremely hot. System temp goes up to 70 C! (caps are next to sensor) Chipset is watercooled so no airflow there. We put an 80mm fan above it now. It reads 51 C atm. So it helps, but is sucks.
AE (EA?) Bios is crap in his case. B8 is much better and also needed for normal use (because of the 2400+). Stability also improves @ B8.
So 190 is no go. All timings relaxed, everything.. Board makes me wanna cry :mad:
i have bought a Kd-7 Raid here in Holland.
and i have lots of trouble getting a FSB of 200mhz.
when i go over the 190 FSB my harddisks get corrupt.
i have just corsair pc3200 cas 2 and a amd 2400+ ati 9700 pro
is there any thing that i can do to go up to 200?
please help me.
i have seen that my friend Fewture already try to help me with posting here thanks
Hi all, first post here with a question about the KD-7
I am getting one soon (hopefully this week) and since i read that the southbridge runs pretty hot, i want to put a cheap heatsink on it, but i dont know how big the southbridge is.
i can get a 19,8 x 12,6 x 8 mm, 28 x 28 x 8 mm or a 38 x 38 x 10 mm heatsink.
should i just get the biggest one or is there a chance it wont fit?
Attachment is with double sided sticky thermal tape...
once again i dont know southbridge size so assistance would be appreciated if anyone knows how big it is :)
also, Dark Angel, I have read that the Radeon 9700 doesnt like high FSB speeds, maybe thats the problem, can you try with a different videocard?
Trying it with a different video card, in my opinion, is not acceptable. The Radeon 9700 is the fastest out there, there is no reason why anyone should have to "settle" for a slower card just to use this motherboard.
Tomcat84
I did not remove the HS to measure, but the HS I used is 1 inch by almost 1 and 1/4 inches...anything close to that will work..there are some caps on one side, just slide the HS down a little if too big. I don't know how many had this problem and put a HS on SB, but it's working very well for me.:D
thanks, ill go for the 28mm x 28mm x 8mm then
since thats 1.12 inches by 1.12 inches
btw, does putting on a heatsink and applying AS 3 on the northbridge void my warranty?
Probably only if they see it if its RMAed eh?
heatsink they cant see, arctic silver i guess i'd have to clean off well hehe.
Oh lets just hope no RMA will be needed :)
No one has to "settle for another card" to use this board, the board runs fine with this card at normal spec, if you are going to run it way beyond specs as we do...then it's up to you to make it work. I used my G4 Ti4600 instead of getting a new 9700 because of this problem, works fine.Quote:
Originally posted by emtp563
Trying it with a different video card, in my opinion, is not acceptable. The Radeon 9700 is the fastest out there, there is no reason why anyone should have to "settle" for a slower card just to use this motherboard.
I finally have my KD7 up and running. But when I installed the RADEON I immediately started having problems.
Nothing is yet overclocked.
When I installed the RADEON and the drivers it rebooted and I had a garbled display and an error message about the display driver.
I tried to reboot again but every time the system would just start to load WIN ME and then reboot itself.
I'm back to my Ti 4400 for the moment. any ideas?
btw, KD7 is version 1.1, RADEON is version 1.0.
Is there a way to adjust the AGP voltage on this mobo?
Len,
Did you flash to the latest bios ? Many have said the bios the board ships with is useless.
i am considering getting a kd-7 sometime soon or any other kt400 board. would it be safe to say that the kd7 is the best kt400 board out there right now? it seems to me that it is rather buggy
and what is some good pc3200 ram out there now for descent prices, 512mb of course. other than samsung, i am not very impressed with the 2 sticks i have had. one of them died and the other is working alright now, just nothing too impressive
In my opinion the KD7 is the best KT400 mobo out there. Although I certainly wouldn't even bother upgrading to a KT400 from any KT333 solution, the KD7 would be the choice for sure if I were upgrading from an older chipset to the KT400.
i am curently runnin a kt266a board...with no 1/5 pci divider. plus the 8x agp is lookin nice for future upgrades
it's a pitty that it doesn't have any S-ATA connectors... :(