If your bios b is fine .. use the security uefi back to flash a and tryQuote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
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If your bios b is fine .. use the security uefi back to flash a and tryQuote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
Maybe your IMC degrade bro, if issue is failing 32m with freezing etc. Do you get any strange post codes? l0ud has experienced this on a couple retail chips....he returned them lol
Quote:
If your bios b is fine .. use the security uefi back to flash a and try
I tried with bios B. Seems to be better. I did the flash back to A. Then tried the settings again (with the same bios version that was in B which was 142), still had the same problem. So, I re-flashed bios A again with 151b, now it seems to be working but I need to test more again. Will report back...Quote:
Maybe your IMC degrade bro, if issue is failing 32m with freezing etc. Do you get any strange post codes? l0ud has experienced this on a couple retail chips....he returned them lol
Just bought myself the OCF yesterday.
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...713_081339.jpg
Flashed to the latest BIOS v1.52 works perfectly with Samsung kits.
G.Skill TridentX 2666C10 @ 2800 9-12-12-25-1T
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1434/ax5i.png
Team Xtreme 2600C10 @ 2800 9-12-12-25-1T
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9992/3lo.png
But I'm having problem trying to post with TridentX 2800 11-13-13 2X4GB kit at 1T. Overclocking failure message. Any idea?
vdimm init/event: 1.65v
sa +0.45v
aio +0.40v
dio +0.35v
vttddr: 0.825v
11-13-13-35-1T
16-147-5-11-11-24 etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
HYNIX doube side stick is impossible to do 1t on z87 ...maybe It is platform limitation . Sad....
Nick, can you tell me, there are some problems with stock in eastearn Europe, Romania more exact?
Z87M OC Formula still none sign of it here, as for OC Formula was in stock, 2-3 weeks ago, now it's not in stock.
And also was available at just 2 online shops.
Problems with stocks from Asrock here in Romania were not in the past ...
Alex-Ro has the motheboard from other source not from any local shop.
Want to buy next week Z87M OC Formula to pass to Haswell.
How much CPU input voltage and cache voltage do you think is safe to use for 24/7 on air? I've been testing clocking my new 4670K on my ASRock Extreme6 and vcore wise it seems pretty decent so far seemingly stable (still need more various tests to be sure) at 4.5GHz 1.21v vcore (might go a few 0.01v lower even) but seems to need like 1.2v cache voltage or so (at least not stable at 1.15v cache voltage and will BSOD quite randomly/quickly without stress testing too and I've set CPU input voltage to 1.9v currently. The Input and cache voltage is more worrisome, the vcore isn't worrying (seems pretty low) and temps more than fine ~65C without AVX and ~75C (hottest core, the rest are like 5C lower) with Prime95 and AVX. Phanteks dual fan cooler + CL Liquid Pro for those who wonders, pretty impressed by the cooling capabilities but the cooler costs almost the same as entry lvl WC kits so it better be. :p
Been out of the OC hobby for 3 years, feels like it's changed so much when UEFI appeared and now you can just flash BIOS with a click of a button in UEFI directly from the Internet lol.
EDIT: Seems stable at:
4.5GHz
Vcore: 1.21v
Cache: 1.185v
Input: 1.92v
Seems good enough for me for a start, maybe I push for higher, maybe not, already quite satisfied with that as I always used to get very poor chips in the past
Looks like its my CPU. It really won't run any of the working settings I have (at any UEFI version). Maybe just coincidence that it degraded when I upgraded to 152.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Time to hit the shops and send this one back.... :D
2400 C9's 4x4gb BFR double sided by the fella ure replying.. running 1t on m6e.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2833263/+434
but i am myself curious how he did it cause been trying to do the same with his same ram the whole afternoon. 2t no issue. 1t tons.
take that back found the issue. running 2.4k 4x4gb 9-11-10-28 no issue. priming the whole thing with memtest.
I'm also very impressed by the Asrock bios & I aint been anywhere :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
I only tried cfr and mfr double side.. over 2400 is impossible to enable 1t....bfr i never try..haha
Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
I also hope mobo can be in stock everywhere.
I think that it is depends on the distributor there ...
Maybe distributor wait for the C2 version..
Uh oh... C2 version?Quote:
Maybe distributor wait for the C2 version..
Is 2800 8gb kit double sided?? Pertaining to his question on 2800 1t issue on ocf. Cause he did 1t on 4sticks n even 3k woth prime on 1t on m6e.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2845875/5+
C2 version of Z87 chipset whithout USB 3.0 issue probably...i don't care about that issue just want the board :)Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
That is single side MFR 4gbx4.. i can do 3400 1t on air no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Ya .. that is issue when u recover from s3(sleep mode in os). Usb is gone . And also some controller compatibility issueQuote:
Originally Posted by xdan
awesome. 2933 8gb and ocf arriving next week. time to mfr up.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
But bro, the same kit did 1T easily on M5E without too much overvolting.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
2800 11-14-14-25-1T
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/816/32m619881.jpg
2933 11-14-14-25-1T
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/816/32m619881.jpg
Hey why ioa and iod set so high?Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
Try auto :) maybe better
ASRock Z87 OC Formula
Pi 32M Haswell 5GHz Simple Test
G.skill 2666C10(samsung)
I changed RTL.
I got splendid result.
Thanks,Splave and Nick:up:
http://page.freett.com/yasukazusimo/samsung1.html
42/50/4/11/(Auto) to 42/43/4/4/
2858MHz to 2916MHz
http://duckoc.web.fc2.com/558984.jpg
tRRD,tRFC,tFAW,tRDWR_dd,
changed.
http://duckoc.web.fc2.com/558531.jpg
http://duckoc.web.fc2.com/sam2.JPG
CPU Temp -57c
Mem : G.skill 2666C10 / Temp -15c
Vcore : 1.42v / CPU Cache : 1.5v /Vddr : 2.03v /
ERAM211+Copy-waza
no problem duck-san! link does not work for me though :)
CFR 1T works fine at 2800 for me, it is 2933 that is broken will post screen shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
So ur issue happen on the gskill 2800 11 13 13 35 kits or 2800 11 14 14 35 ?
Gskill has new 2800 11 14 14 35 single side with MFR ic .. old one is cfr
Please check ur kits and let me know ..and u said overvolt.. any screenshot?
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Seems i didnt fine tune BFR and CFR kits .
I will try to borrow the kits and check the issue .
CFR 1T seems to stop at 2666 regardless of voltage.
Tested up to 1.85 but for 2666 c11 1.62v was fine
http://i.imgur.com/HMfOBYk.png
finishing up with Samsung on air, what a blast!
http://i.imgur.com/2kzAk5g.png
the vdimm is read in the pics above by aisuite.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
my kit is the tridentx 2800 11-13-13 printed on the label.
new bioses are awesome ..Thank you Nick and all the bios team ,great job guys :yepp:..."nothing but air"
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/5814/5s6g.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img829/4026/1nwd.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
ok will try it tomorrow , thanks for this issue report .:welcome:
Alright, thanks for the responsive PMs bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Another kit which is CFR based Corsair Dom Platinum 2800 11-14-14 also no POST with 1T, but 2T works fine.
So gave my BFR a spin under cold and also to make sure 1T works and all is well:
http://i.imgur.com/kbigoyA.png
Tighter is not always faster
http://i.imgur.com/KVInJPK.png
I had a 7:21:5xx saved on the desktop and then corrupted Windows going for some c6 action:p:
At the end of the session I decided to test this cpu with safe vccin (2.2v)
http://i.imgur.com/B4xpVKA.png
http://i.imgur.com/fLEWk1M.png
2c 2t valid is still on the drive and only required 1.65v.
Some 4c 8t action:
http://i.imgur.com/M1iS6fL.png
some my results on ASROCK Z87M OC + AVEXIR DDR3000 Very tight Sub-timing
Special Thanks Zolkorn
Super Pi 32 8Thread Stable on vdimm 1.65v only
http://upic.me/i/e9/4.9g_nb4.7_3000_pi32.png
http://upic.me/i/i3/4.9g_nb4.7_3000_pi32_2.png
AIDA64
http://upic.me/i/r5/4.9g_nb4.7_3000_aida.png
tRDRD & tWRWR help Memory Read and Write on AIDA
http://upic.me/i/ux/3000_tight_aida_t.png
http://www.ocstation.com/images/Arti...r/z87m_038.jpg
Nice results thanks for posting
Wow that's very nice :)
Was that done with the ram on air?
Thanks you. ^^"Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Yes air-cooling with stock heat spreader ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
1.52 beta :)
http://station-drivers.com/page/asro...mula_serie.htm
I love this MB for memory OC :D
Ordered my OC Formula/ac today, here tomorrow, coming back to Intel again, lol!!!
Just need a chip now, cant get one till end of month.:(
ASROCK Z87M OC FORMULA is good...
http://cfile7.uf.tistory.com/image/0...51E57D3829488B
http://cfile21.uf.tistory.com/image/...51E57D3837C1B4
[Main Setting]
CPU : 5Ghz ( TurnOff HyperThread : 4core / 4 Thread )
Cache : 4.9Ghz
Memory : 1300Mhz 8-12-8-28-1T ( performance mode )
[Voltage Setting]
Vcore 1.38v
Cache : 1.3v
System Agent : +0.3v
Cpu Analog IO : + 0.2v
Cpu Digital IO : + 0.25v
Dram : 1.89v
VTT DDR : 1.01v
http://forum.hwbot.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1373996849
Samsung running like crazy on this board, sooo fast Air king setup XD
http://i.imgur.com/PIwBEkg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L2mhW6D.jpg
Board arrived today, just the chip and ram to wait for now, oh well, only 2 weeks.lol!!
http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...2/IMG_3729.jpg
http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...2/IMG_3730.jpg
Delivering as promised:)
http://youtu.be/IobYuFaeXq8
l0ud_sil3nc3 - 5:59:843- 50x100.1 - 1300.8 MHz 7-12-7-28-88-1 - Mini OCF - G.Skill 2400 c8 PSC 1.96v all @ (cold) air
http://i.imgur.com/jno4U5b.png
l0ud_sil3nc3!! timing is so good!!!
hopes that i have time to bench something ..... but lots issues on hand to solve ~_~ :shrug:
Not interested in your sex life bro lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
try setting XMP profile option enabled even if you set manually the timings
also change
twrrd to 24
tcke to 5
trfc 100
trdrd_dd 6
trrd 6
tfaw 27
so its same as your asus timings
So far is this the best Z87 board for memory OC?
try SA auto, IOA auto IOD auto :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
I bent 10 bells of poop out of my bios trying to catch Splave the other day to the point my board would not pass more than a few turns of 32m with any ram at any speed. Not sure its exactly the done thing but I re flashed & hit cmos clear then updated mei again then cmos clear. I did this twice then backed up bios a - b booted & rebooted a couple times & all is well again.... might be worth a go if you cant get anything to run :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
Is there another way to flash BIOS in DOS mode or sth like that?
Instant flash freezes during searching BIOS file on USB stick, ... no keyboard actions are possible, but mouse is working... no chance to flash BIOS from 1.31A...
Try to use another stick ;) or usb port.
fat32?Quote:
Originally Posted by loopy83
Of course this was the first I tested... second BIOS, another port, another stick, another file system...
Search found the Z87MOCF1.42 file and freezes with that screen... mouse is working and clock in the right corner keeps running... of course after CMOS clear, no OC, no special settings, nothing special...
http://abload.de/img/fotoazsdn.jpg
Also without USB stick, after applying to "Instant Flash" the system freezes with "Searching...." writing instead of BIOS file name... strange :(
What type it's the stick? USB 2.0 or 3.0?
Better use 2.0, 3.0 might have bug from the chipset...
And use in a USB 2.0 port.
USB2.0 stick used in a 2.0 port ;)
DOS Tool with 1.40 BIOS is working...
It seems system freezes during searching through BIOS files. Used the third stick with a lot of files on it and it starts searching and stops with the first BIOS file it founds.
Maybe there's the problem :(
Ok... now go on with 1.40 from website.
Maybe, Nick, can you build me a DOS Tool with the actual BIOS? :help:
If using USB keyboard and mouse try unplugging mouse before you boot while you are trying to flash.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loopy83
This issue happen to me also with kingston 64GB usb stick before .
after i format my USB stick again , then everything is working .
OK i will update a dos tool later .... but i think it is the problem by USB format ..and please put bios file only and try again ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Damn ...1.15volt 5G ....are u kidding me ? :eek:
good timing bro ...will be getting some LN on the way back from work ..:yepp:
P.S. was going to freeze Corsair but now I might do HYKO lol,great stuff man
and some mandatory 5G
http://i.imgur.com/iFRSk8sl.png
l0ud going cray in this biotch
Full crayola!Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Put that sweet piece of Silicon under the cold stuff and show us 7ghz!
Saving it for a certain contest if you know what I mean;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123
Do you mind my asking the batch? I'm wondering if it's a Costa chip, or if you just finally got your hands on a good Malay chip. :)
l312b512Quote:
Originally Posted by chancecoats123
My best on MFR at 5GHz
btw. please don't serious to much for my sub-timing with value at 1 now :D i'll make sure later is it real or bug
Best on 1.25x bclk strap, RAM@3079MHz C11
http://img.techpowerup.org/130720/6.2.969.jpg
Best on 1.00x bclk strap, RAM@2994MHz C12
http://img.techpowerup.org/130720/screen012.jpg
;)
One of these boards suddenly showed up in stock at my local Micro Center, I am now a proud owner of a Z87 OC Formula!
Do you love it, or do you love it? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Any tips for clocking 4x4GB or 4x8GB DIMMs on this board higher than 2800? I seem to get code 55 every time but can't figure out what timing is too tight (profiles don't help here).
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
What set man? I go highest at 125 strap
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
what memory kits u using now ?
Dominator Platinum 2800C11, Trident X 2666C11, Vengeance Pro 2400C210.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
please set command rate 2T first
having issue with BFR and CFR IC to run 1T now ... others alll working perfect
I actually did set 2T manually. I may have to go back and look at screenshots from successful 2933+ runs with these kits on the Gigabyte Z87 OC Force and look at the timings that were set.
Aaand...today my Patriots decided they wanted to play nice. Absolutely no changes at all to the settings that weren't working last night.:shrug:
http://i.imgur.com/vuQcCXR.jpg
^haswell is a strange beast man, im all over the place on samsung lol sometimes fast sometimes slow
set boot cycle to 3 ,sometimes it takes 4~5 times (55) and smooth sailing after that :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
A3-hit reset
D9-wait
- semi-tight timings are better on some IC's then semi- loose
-start with tREFI high ,I found refresh intervals to be somehow to tight on some of the profiles
managed to get my PSC to run 1200 6-11-7, but can't get 7-11-7 or 8-11-x to work with exact same settings :shrug:
http://abload.de/img/1200c6_182v_32m_z87asejaqd.png
Did you leave trdwr set of timings auto?If manual the tighter tcl and twcl get,the tighter you can go on those and i experienced problems when not setting those 3 trdwr accordingly...
trefi higher means tighter actually,in other means you get little boost setting in higher than default 7936
Quote:
Originally Posted by audigy
bro setting 1 for thirds is slower than setting 4 for me
Subs are so tight on this board! It makes it really hard to do high clocks with double-sided MFR. Just compare the settings from the 2933 preset to what passed 32M on the Gigabyte board.
Z87X OC Force
http://i.imgur.com/MwQSqeR.jpg
Z87 OC Formula 2933 preset (auto subs are pretty much the same)
http://i.imgur.com/b3ZIWgB.png
I've been trying to replicate the settings from the Gigabyte but it seems to make things more unstable. Any tips? Brute voltage isn't working, these don't like much more than 1.8v.
I am going to venture and say you are trying with twcl 8? If so try 7 or preferably 6 even with 8-11-7 or 7-11-7.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
Z87 OC formula series tool update
Formula drive update to 1.0.61.3 , it is including lite version and full version inside .
1. Fix dram voltage issue when u set higher than 1.85
2. Fix cache ratio issue
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/as...CFtool0724.rar
thank you nick i was wondering what was wrong with vmem but thought it was just me chopped os...:up:
What ram (ICs) on your try Splave ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
I tried alot on MFR sometime 1 better over 4 but from average i think it not different between 1 to 4 for third
however for SAMSUNG ic i have tried with 1 and not easy to boot or not boot and for CFR if setting 1 on third
it will lost for Mem BW
So i think value 1 on third have some real value for MFR like tWRWRDR/tWRWRDD cause some time i saw
it by auto which 1 or 3 value from many time i tried
btw. i will try more and will update about this it real or not for value 1 on third ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
do u have pic of the IOL and RTL ?
Sorry, no pics of IOL and RTL from the Gigabyte board to compare to the Asrock.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
can u capture a screen ? it is hard to exam the issue without any detailed info . thanks:shocked:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn
Timings for tertiary side vary._dd timings have impact when all 4 slots are populated,if you have only 1 stick/dimm u can set 1-7 whatever,performance is ~same,if you run 2 sticks/channel for high speed(2600+) values of 6-7 are needed)i need 6 for both samsungs and psc otherwise no boot)._dr timings reffer to single rank/dual rank,e.g single sided memory or dual-sided,if you are running single-sided sticks like 4GB MFR then 1-7 performance not make a difference,when benching double-sided memory 4 is optimal.
Here are the RTLs from the OC Formula.
http://i.imgur.com/F4TebHw.png
2x8GB seems fine for clocking 2933+
http://i.imgur.com/xgOtaLv.jpg
Hey man, where did you get the desktop background from, looks good. ???
My Settings with Win 7
http://abload.de/thumb/sp32_1i9jhl.jpg
Which settings i need for better/lower latency?
i have don?t found until yet
My Ram is Domi Plat. 2666 CL10
BR
Experiment & see what works for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkel
See this post http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5200470
My ram runs stable for 24/7 at those timings with the exception of tras 22, trfc 120, trdwr 13, trdwr_dr 13, trdwr_dd 13 RTL & IOL Auto, twr 6 1.65v
Thanks alot Alex this details very helpful to me :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
btw. a bit more question on mind my i feel it different performance for 4 and 7 if benching on Windows7 x64 :shakes: